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RE: Official DS Sales Thread
« Reply #1075 on: January 05, 2006, 11:22:51 AM »
According to Media Create charts, 2005 sales of the DS in Japan alone are higher than overall sales of the Gamecube. -_-
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RE:Official DS Sales Thread
« Reply #1076 on: January 05, 2006, 05:00:00 PM »
Nintendo really needs to push the similarities and parallells that the Revolution shares with the Nintendo DS, if it can do that successfully, then there's no question the Revolution will be extremely successful.
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« Reply #1077 on: January 05, 2006, 05:33:21 PM »
In Japan...

(I know it's doing well in the US as well, but most of the talk and hype is still for the PSP for whatever reason)
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« Reply #1078 on: January 05, 2006, 05:39:59 PM »
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Well, see, there's a big difference there.. You don't like Madden, but the fact that you don't like it is because of the genre or the type of game it is. Someone may love FFCC and its gameplay, but they don't have GBA-owning friends, so they wouldn't be able to get the most out of it. There should never be such a tight restriction on a game..


That's like saying that if I like Perfect Dark Zero, but I don't have high-speed internet, it's Microsoft/Rare's fault for not allowing me full access to all the features of the game because to play it online, I have to have high speed internet...
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« Reply #1079 on: January 05, 2006, 07:58:10 PM »
ok, but only I need an internet connection for 3 friends to come over and have a 16 player death match, everyone of us doesn't have to  bring our own internet connection to play together.
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« Reply #1080 on: January 05, 2006, 08:50:59 PM »
so ok I had this big post to put here, no surprise I know, and then I realized I was in the wrong thread, but since I started typing anyways I am just gonna say that I heard Sony was gonna try pushing Connectivity between PSP and console Playstations liek PS2 and 3, what if it backfires on them like it did with nintendo? Does any body think that could hurt Sony alot?  
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« Reply #1081 on: January 05, 2006, 08:55:18 PM »
But the other players beyond those three have to also have an internet connection and a system and the game.  To play a 16 player game (and thus to 'get the most out of it'), the cost is a lot higher for PD0 online or Mario Kart DS online than for FF:CC/Connectivity was.  It may be less accessible for most, but cost sould not be a factor.  One player needs a TV, a GCN, the game, their GBA and a Link Cable ($360)  The other players bring over their GBAs that they already own (not ones that they bought *just* for this game) in order to play multiplayer.  Either the GCN owner or those with the GBAs can supply the link cable.

The only real complaint (cost wise) would be about the Link Cable.  Yeah, those with GBAs and without a GCN (or just without a use for the cable) won't want to buy the cable, so there a possibililty for an extra $15-$60 cost for the person who owns the game.  I can't really defend that part of it (although, again, it's all cheaper than the total cost of other "online" games).

Personally, I've got five Link Cables and only ever purchased one of them - so really, the cost didn't have to be high.  My first cable, I ordered from Nintendo (the only way to get them when they were first offered for Sonic Advance/Sonic Adventure 2: Battle).  My second one came free with my Pokémon Colosseum Pre-Order that I never picked up ($5 down for the bonus disc and a link cable - I couldn't pass it up).  My third one came free with FF:CC, my fourth came free with Zelda: Four Swords Adventures and my fifth came free with my imported FSA (had to get Tetra's Trackers!).  Granted, I don't expect everyone to have managed to get all these free Link Cables the same way I did, but considering Nintendo gave so many away (also, there was a GCN bundle that included Wind Waker and a GBA/GCN link cable), to claim that they were hard to get/cost too much just doesn't sit too well with me.

Now if you want to complain about how hard it is to get three friends with GBAs to come over vs. getting three (or more) people together online, yeah, that's a valid complaint.  Heck, I have a hard enough time working out a schedule to get two or three friends without GBAs to come over to play regular multi-player games.  But again, if you can't get people to play games at your house, would you buy the next Mario Party game?  No, it's not for you.  The same with FF:CC - it just simply wasn't a game for everyone.  It was a game for people with friends who had GBAs. Period.
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RE:Official DS Sales Thread
« Reply #1082 on: January 05, 2006, 10:00:27 PM »
Sony was gonna try pushing Connectivity between PSP and console Playstations liek PS2 and 3, what if it backfires on them like it did with nintendo? Does any body think that could hurt Sony alot?

I don't really think it would hurt them; it just wouldn't help them a lot.. The PS3, in all likelihood, will have a much larger userbase than the PSP, which was opposite from the GBA/GCN comparison. Unless games made for the PS3 go out of their way for connectivity, and the end result is a worse game, then yeah, it could hurt them more..

And UncleBob, do you think that a game should be designed with such a big restriction as FFCC had? If a game is not meant for you, it usually means that you don't like the style of gameplay or the genre or whatever, like you don't like Madden. But that's not the case at all here. You could absolutely love the gameplay in FFCC, but, as you said, it was meant for people with GBA-owning friends. And that means not many people..

All online games have local multiplayer as well.. That means that if you want, you can get 3 other friends to play the game, and all you'd need would be 3 more controllers, not all the equipment FFCC needs. And you wouldn't need online either...
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RE: Official DS Sales Thread
« Reply #1083 on: January 05, 2006, 11:07:12 PM »
Media Create Sales 12/26-01/01

1. NDS Brain Training 2 414,556 NEW
2. NDS Animal Crossing DS 205,119 (1,382,228)
3. NDS Mario Kart DS 168,680 (836,478)
4. PS2 Kingdom Hearts 2 156,837 (884,428)
5. NDS Brain Training 153,189 (1,157,870)
6. PS2 Front Mission 5 146,209 NEW
7. NDS Mario & Luigi 2 132,726 NEW
8. NDS Gentle Brain Training 82,789 (935,535)
9. NDS Tamagotchi 63,433 (784,537)
10. NDS Pokemon Mysterious Dungeon: Blue Rescue Force 61,154 (572,858)

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« Reply #1084 on: January 06, 2006, 12:54:41 AM »
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« Reply #1085 on: January 06, 2006, 01:06:44 AM »
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And people said the DS was gonna be crushed by the PSP's awesome-ness...
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« Reply #1086 on: January 06, 2006, 01:18:47 AM »
the rest of the Top 30

11 (PS2) Naruto Narutimate Hero 3
12 (GBA) Pokemon Fushigi no Dungeon Red
13 (360) Dead or Alive 4
14 (PSP) Super Robot Taisen MX Portable
15 (DS) Daredemo Asobi Taizen
16 (PSP) Monster Hunter Portable
17 (PS2) Tales of the Abyss
18 (GC) Mario Party 7
19 (DS) Slime Morimori Dragon Quest II
20 (DS) Dragon Ball Z

21 (PS2) Ryu Ga Gotoku
22 (PS2) Momotarou Dentetsu 15
23 (PS2) biohazard 4
24 (GBA) Rockman EXE 6 Graygar
25 (DS) nintendogs Shiba
26 (GBA) Final Fantasy IV Advance

27 (PS2) Metal Gear Solid 3 Subsistence
28 (DS) Mushiking DS
29 (DS) nintendogs Dach
30 (DS) nintendogs Chihuahua


Dats ImpreSsive

19 of the Top 30 on a Nintendo system
10 on on a Sony system
& only 1 on a MS system

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RE: Official DS Sales Thread
« Reply #1087 on: January 06, 2006, 02:36:55 AM »
Hardware sales

DS 390,181
PSP 110,741
PS2 78,646
GBASP 15,998
GC 12,579
Xbox360 12,300
GBM 11,234
GBA 447
Xbox 121

Shortages and still 400,000 sold?

Xbox 360 sales MORE THAN DOUBLED with the release of Dead or Alive 4. I can hear the partying from Microsoft Japan HQ from here!

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RE:Official DS Sales Thread
« Reply #1088 on: January 06, 2006, 02:55:35 AM »
Ahhhh, it pains me to see the Micro failing.  Worse sales than even the 360.

On the other hand YA DS GOOOOO

(The PSP isn't really doing that bad, it's maintained a #2 spot, it's just that it looks REALLY bad in comparison to DS sales :-P)
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« Reply #1089 on: January 06, 2006, 03:35:01 AM »
I wanted a Micro, but I got a DS.  I just can't justify $90 for a swanky GBA when I spent $10 (yes, $10) more and got a DS.  I think that has a great deal to do with its low sales, is its high price point.
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« Reply #1090 on: January 06, 2006, 04:25:10 AM »
The Micro was set for mediocrity from the start in my opinion.  Nintendo just released it as an attempt to prolong the GBA's life, and it has done that.  I'm sure sales of the version 2 NES and Super NES systems were similarly low.  The point is to keep interest alive in a dying system, not to take the industry by storm with old technology.
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« Reply #1091 on: January 06, 2006, 04:45:39 AM »
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And UncleBob, do you think that a game should be designed with such a big restriction as FFCC had? If a game is not meant for you, it usually means that you don't like the style of gameplay or the genre or whatever, like you don't like Madden. But that's not the case at all here. You could absolutely love the gameplay in FFCC, but, as you said, it was meant for people with GBA-owning friends. And that means not many people..


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« Reply #1092 on: January 06, 2006, 05:47:09 AM »
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The Micro was set for mediocrity from the start in my opinion.  Nintendo just released it as an attempt to prolong the GBA's life, and it has done that.  I'm sure sales of the version 2 NES and Super NES systems were similarly low.  The point is to keep interest alive in a dying system, not to take the industry by storm with old technology.


I saw the Micro more as an attempt to cash in on the "portable video games as fashion" trend that the PSP seemed to have got so many sales from. I'm not seeing huge left over stock of the thing anywhere I've gone... so I suspect it's selling about as well as they expected.

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« Reply #1093 on: January 06, 2006, 06:12:20 AM »
"Ahhhh, it pains me to see the Micro failing. Worse sales than even the 360."

I called that the second rumours of another GBA started floating around.  Only a complete tool (or a hardcore game collector) would buy a Micro.  If you just want a GBA the SP is much cheaper (and now has a better light) and for just a bit more money you can buy a DS and get access to a whole over system's worth of games, a system that is still being supported.  Basically Micro sales relied on consumer ignorance or stupidity to sell.

Now hopefully Nintendo knew it wouldn't sell that well and they didn't waste money producing whole warehouses full of Micros.

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« Reply #1094 on: January 06, 2006, 08:03:41 AM »
I doubt they overproduced. Reggie hinted that they were doubtful of continued success. When asked how long they would sell it, he said, 'As long as people will buy it.  Maybe three months, maybe a year.' I'm paraphrasing till I remember which video he said that in. I'll get the quote later.
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« Reply #1095 on: January 06, 2006, 08:16:19 AM »
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You could absolutely love the gameplay in FFCC, but, as you said, it was meant for people with GBA-owning friends. And that means not many people..


Er...but aren't GBA sales more than four times that of GCN sales?


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« Reply #1096 on: January 06, 2006, 08:35:12 AM »
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Only a complete tool (or a hardcore game collector) would buy a Micro.
Hey, I just got a Micro, so lay off.  

I was totally able to resist the Micro until the Famicom version was announced.  My GBA SP is starting to show its age, and I hate playing GBA games on my DS (the extra unusable face buttons annoy me) so I figured I'd pick one up, if for no other reason than to play FF IV, V & VI.
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« Reply #1097 on: January 06, 2006, 08:37:43 AM »
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I called that the second rumours of another GBA started floating around.  Only a complete tool (or a hardcore game collector) would buy a Micro.  If you just want a GBA the SP is much cheaper (and now has a better light) and for just a bit more money you can buy a DS and get access to a whole over system's worth of games, a system that is still being supported.  Basically Micro sales relied on consumer ignorance or stupidity to sell.
Geez ian, you're not ignorant at all, are you? You've not played a Micro, I can gather. Micro's screen is way sharper and produces a much better picture then the SP and far better then backlit SP. You'll want to trash your SP after playing on a Micro. And speaking of playing, the cross pad and buttons are no more closer together or smaller then the SP, in fact their even further apart thanks to the horizontal layout. And battery time is just the same if not better. And besides the link cable connectivity stuff was a 'complete' failure, so why should it bother you that it doesn't work with those or the e-reader. I'll trade the small size and great screen any day for GB playback.
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« Reply #1098 on: January 06, 2006, 10:32:48 AM »
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You could absolutely love the gameplay in FFCC, but, as you said, it was meant for people with GBA-owning friends. And that means not many people..


Er...but aren't GBA sales more than four times that of GCN sales?


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Which is why I think the game was meant for GBA owners.  I don't know REALITY, but would you think there's even LESS people who have GC-owning FRIENDS?
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« Reply #1099 on: January 06, 2006, 11:09:19 AM »
Yea, if anything it was designed to sell Gamecubes to GBA owners, rather then the other way around.
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