Author Topic: Silicon Knights still working on games for GC (Read 59176 times)

Arbok · « **Reply #175 on:** May 15, 2005, 11:26:22 PM »

I do hope Factor 5 is still working on Nintendo projects, especially hope that they have a Revolution game in the works. Still recall how far ahead of everyone else their first game was for the system, would imagine that a Revolution title from them would be the same way. Not to mention the gameplay in Rogue Leader was awesome as well.

Mario · « **Reply #176 on:** May 16, 2005, 07:13:46 PM »

No SK at Sony or MS conferences.. hmmm.. the darkness comes in 11 hours?

Caillan · « **Reply #177 on:** May 16, 2005, 07:22:58 PM »

"No SK at Sony or MS conferences.. hmmm.. the darkness comes in 11 hours?"

Sega making another console, with Silicon Knights. You heard it here first.

Rancid Planet · « **Reply #178 on:** May 16, 2005, 07:42:49 PM »

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Originally posted by: Caillan

Sega making another console, with Silicon Knights. You heard it here first.

Oh man! That would be the ULTIMATE underappreciated console company.

NinGurl69 *huggles · « **Reply #179 on:** May 16, 2005, 07:59:06 PM »

It'll make Virtual Boy look like a success!

ruby_onix · « **Reply #180 on:** May 18, 2005, 10:44:40 PM »

Silicon Knights dumps Sega and jumps over to Microsoft!!1!

Actually that's not quite true. They're not dumping Sega. But they are "working with Microsoft" to create Too Human, which is now going to be a trilogy of games, exclusive to the Xbox360, and published by Microsoft.

Caillan · « **Reply #181 on:** May 18, 2005, 11:56:45 PM »

I can't believe Nintendo made that happen.

Ian Sane · « **Reply #182 on:** May 19, 2005, 07:07:27 AM »

When a bought a Cube two of the upcoming titles I was most excited about were Perfect Dark Zero and Too Human. Now they're both on the Xbox 360. And people wonder why I'm ragging on Nintendo so much.

Nintendo, you f*cked up. Fix this.

Pale · « **Reply #183 on:** May 19, 2005, 07:27:50 AM »

I can't believe you guys can blame nintendo for this...this is classic Yankeeisms from Microsoft.

Think about it...even square is developing for the x-box now. MS is throwing so much money around developers can't help but say yes. Silicon Knights isn't going to admit that the only reason they jumped ship was for money because that was probably part of the contract. MS wants people to think the developers are coming out of their own free will.

This is why they are bad for the industry.

Ian Sane · « **Reply #184 on:** May 19, 2005, 07:47:27 AM »

"I can't believe you guys can blame nintendo for this"

Has Nintendo made any effort to replace Rare or SK? No.

Did Nintendo waste Silicon Knights on an enhanced port of Metal Gear Solid when they could have been working on Too Human for the Gamecube? Yes.

Rare left pretty early on in the Cube's life. The only Cube game they released was one they started on the N64 so I can't blame Nintendo for that. But Nintendo had SK working with them for about 4 years or so and only got one original game out of them (which they then didn't market worth sh!t) and then assigned them on a remake. Nintendo had sufficient time to make the most out of their relationship with SK and they wasted it. Plus making no effort to make ED a hit and assigning them MGS probably contributed in their choice to leave.

Plus if Nintendo did a better job at increasing their market share they wouldn't have to worry as much about devs jumping ship. If they had a bigger market share and more third party support SK or Rare leaving wouldn't be as big of a deal. But they already have a slim amount of support, which is their own fault, so something like this is a bigger deal. If Nintendo was on the ball with the Cube this sort of thing either wouldn't happen or it wouldn't be as significant.

PaLaDiN · « **Reply #185 on:** May 19, 2005, 07:52:09 AM »

"Has Nintendo made any effort to replace Rare or SK? No."

Sorry, but I like Retro more than both of them combined.

Ian Sane · « **Reply #186 on:** May 19, 2005, 08:02:22 AM »

"Sorry, but I like Retro more than both of them combined."

Retro is not a replacement. We were supposed to get games from them, SK and Rare.

jasonditz · « **Reply #187 on:** May 19, 2005, 08:32:38 AM »

Rare didn't need replacing, they hadn't made a quality game in years and all the people responsible for their quality titles had left by the time MSFT came calling.

I agree though that Nintendo needs to do more to replace SK. They've done some expansion in house though (added a new 1st party development team), so that's something. Personally I'd like to see them add a few more in house teams, that's the best way to ensure you don't get in a bidding war with MSFT over a studio. I'd follow the consolidation trend of the industry and get ahold of somebody with some valuable properties and some proven development talent, like capcom.

Savior · « **Reply #188 on:** May 20, 2005, 03:20:33 PM »

Hey weve got N-Space and Kuju thats a SK replacement! right? am i right?

oh and ive heard Too Human is a "hack and slash" game now and not the Deus Ex RPG game it was originally intended to be. No big loss.

Artimus · « **Reply #189 on:** May 20, 2005, 05:44:28 PM »

Dennis Dyack really wanted to make the MGS game. No one forced him to make it.

nickmitch · « **Reply #190 on:** May 20, 2005, 06:59:05 PM »

Guys, guys, (and gals), this is all part of an elaborate plan formulated by SK themselves.
Step 1: Make a deal with microsoft.
Step 2: Make crappy 360 games that SEEM good to get people to buy them then put in a heck load of bugs and bad graphics and short plots/ levels.
Step 3: Infuriate Microsoft so that the deal is broken.
Step 4: Port bad games to the Rev and fix all the problems.
Step 5: Dance in happiness.
Step 6: Stop before there is a need for a step 7.

anubis6789 · « **Reply #191 on:** May 21, 2005, 05:42:19 AM »

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Think about it...even square is developing for the x-box now. MS is throwing so much money around developers can't help but say yes. Silicon Knights isn't going to admit that the only reason they jumped ship was for money because that was probably part of the contract. MS wants people to think the developers are coming out of their own free will.

If SK did leave for more money there may be another reason they wont say besides an NDA. If SK said they left Nintendo over money wouldn't that make it appears as if they were sell outs? Wouldn't that look bad for what many GCN fans considered the best 2nd party Dev? Would it not also look like SK betrayed their own princples about game development for some quick cash?

I mean I would understand if that were the case. What if SK needed money because they fell on hard times and Nintendo could not give it to them. Of course I could just be delusional.

Mario · « **Reply #192 on:** May 21, 2005, 06:14:33 AM »

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Has Nintendo made any effort to replace Rare or SK? No.

How the hell do you know? Oh, and the entire Resident Evil series more than makes up for missing out on Grabbed by the Ghoulies, which is all we would have gotten so far if Rare and SK were both with Nintendo. We've gotten 2 out of the 2 SK games released this generation and 1 out of the 2 Rare games released this generation, it's Rares fault for taking so damn long with their games, don't blame Nintendo for not having games that aren't even out yet.

By the time another Rare or SK game is out, Nintendo will have had/already has several "replacements" for them.

Rancid Planet · « **Reply #193 on:** May 22, 2005, 10:27:23 PM »

I think it doesn't matter because anything SK makes will be over the typical XBOXER's head.

Stimutacs Addict · « **Reply #194 on:** May 23, 2005, 05:37:07 AM »

^I think that Microsoft will actually market the titles and we'll see positive results

Ian Sane · « **Reply #195 on:** May 23, 2005, 12:24:53 PM »

"Oh, and the entire Resident Evil series more than makes up for missing out on Grabbed by the Ghoulies, which is all we would have gotten so far if Rare and SK were both with Nintendo."

Yeah but if you remember initially we were to get the entire Resident Evil series PLUS exclusive support from Rare and Silicon Knights. It's a not a replacement.

vudu · « **Reply #196 on:** May 23, 2005, 12:29:38 PM »

There's an old Chinese proverb that goes "give a man a fish and feed him for a day; teach a man to fish and feed him for a lifetime". It means if you don't like the games that are coming out for GameCube make your own. Otherwise, stop complaining.

KnowsNothing · « **Reply #197 on:** May 23, 2005, 12:31:50 PM »

"Give a man a fish and feed him for a day; teach a man to fish and he'll steal your marketshare."

NinGurl69 *huggles · « **Reply #198 on:** May 23, 2005, 12:33:27 PM »

Man, that fishing bizniss is TOUGH!

ruby_onix · « **Reply #199 on:** June 28, 2005, 02:31:07 PM »

N-Sider has an interview with Denis Dyack.

The truth has finally been revealed.

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"I spoke with Matt from IGN" - Denis Dyack

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