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Silicon Knights still working on games for GC
« on: November 18, 2004, 02:27:44 AM »
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The loss of Silicon Knights, creators of Eternal Darkness and Metal Gear Solid: TTS, as an exclusive developer was a minor but nevertheless notable blow for Nintendo earlier in the year. But now it seems as if the treacherous dog is about to become a valuable contributor to the Nintendo legacy once more. Silicon Knights is still not returning fully to the fold, in that it won't be becoming an exclusive developer again, but it is apparently working on a new and as yet un-named game for the Gamecube. This is in addition to Too Human, which was a tech demo shown at the launch of the Gamecube and is rumoured to be turning into a multi-format release.

Taken from the latest Cube UK magazine... it's about time we got some kind of news about SK. According to this, SK having a new GC game in the works is a fact, but it looks like Too Human being a multi-format release is speculation. Or is it? Or... is it?

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RE: Silicon Knights still working on games for GC
« Reply #1 on: November 18, 2004, 02:41:50 AM »
NINTENDO IS DOOOOMED!!!

Well, this is good news, although the Too human being multi-format is a blow..to the balls! Like a low blow!
I'm assuming this Gamecube game will be exclusive?

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« Reply #2 on: November 18, 2004, 03:13:51 AM »
(I'm assuming all future SK games are Nintendo-exclusive until I can get some hard evidence that suggests otherwise...)
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« Reply #3 on: November 18, 2004, 04:06:10 AM »
Too Human won't be out this generation, nothing to worry about
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« Reply #4 on: November 18, 2004, 04:12:15 AM »
hmm, to early to be optimistic yet
and Ive also kinda lost faith in SK
they dissapointed with MGS IMO,
that was one of the games I regret buying
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« Reply #5 on: November 18, 2004, 06:23:41 AM »
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Originally posted by: Hemmorrhoid
and Ive also kinda lost faith in SK
they dissapointed with MGS IMO

They were remaking a mediocre game in the first place...Hate on MGS EVERYDAY
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« Reply #6 on: November 18, 2004, 07:26:26 AM »
Its way too early to lose faith in SK.  MGS seemed to have been forced onto them as apposed to them actually wanting to do the work.  I'm sure they wouldve rather done something original as aposed to a remake of such an old game (that didnt need remaking to begin with IMO).  
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« Reply #7 on: November 18, 2004, 12:40:14 PM »
My impression from interviews with Dennis Dyack  (excuse my spelling...) was that he was quite happy working on Metal Gear Solid...but of course it's not like he's going to say "This game is and was a piece of crud."

I'm happy to hear that Silicon Knights might not be totally off of the Nintendo train.  As for Too Human, they used the word rumour (rumor) rumour rumooor rum...umm, oh yeah, my point was, yeah, I'd call that speculation.
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« Reply #8 on: November 18, 2004, 12:43:03 PM »
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« Reply #9 on: November 18, 2004, 02:12:30 PM »
I think its good for SK to release one of their long indevelopment, mature rated games multi-platform, to help increase the SK fan base. That way when SK does release another Nintendo exclusive, maybe someone other that the N hardcore fanbase will take notice.

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« Reply #10 on: November 18, 2004, 02:40:22 PM »
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I think its good for SK to release one of their long indevelopment, mature rated games multi-platform, to help increase the SK fan base. That way when SK does release another Nintendo exclusive, maybe someone other that the N hardcore fanbase will take notice.

Bah. Everyone will just say "I'll wait for the PlayStation version" and skip buying the Nintendo-exclusive game, or not even let themselves get interested in it.

If even one SK title goes multiplatform, that attitude (in regard to all future SK games, at the very least) will become ironclad.  
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RE: Silicon Knights still working on games for GC
« Reply #11 on: November 19, 2004, 12:43:41 AM »
"Well, Dennis, would you like to work on a Metal Gear Solid game for the Gamecube?"
"You're even asking? Hell, yeah!"
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« Reply #12 on: November 19, 2004, 12:49:46 AM »
SK prove skills and talent on ED, one of my favourite games ever.
But MGS just dissapointed, I didnt even like it as much as MGS2 (maybe because MGS2 was so wow when it came out)

Anyway, SK might release games for GCN, but I cant see them making any more exclusives, why should they? Its always a risk to make a GCN exclusive from a business standpoint, and I cant see Nintendo giving them lots of cash for exclusivity, otherwise they wouldnt have sold SK.
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« Reply #13 on: November 19, 2004, 08:02:10 AM »
nintendo doesn't comment on rumors or speculation.  this is a rumore and speculation and its most likely not true.  besides they called SK a treacherous dog.  If I was SK I'd never work for nintendo again.  knowing that the fans feel so great about us.

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« Reply #14 on: November 19, 2004, 08:31:22 AM »
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besides they called SK a treacherous dog.
When exactly did that happen?  I must have missed it.
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« Reply #15 on: November 19, 2004, 09:50:06 AM »
the article.  read the article.  I wouldn't want to work on a platform when I know that the games won't sell because the fans hate us.

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« Reply #16 on: November 19, 2004, 11:33:35 AM »
Ah, I see now.  Still, it's not like Nintendo said it.  There's a big difference.
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« Reply #17 on: November 19, 2004, 04:33:16 PM »
Wow. I'll play the lone ranger again and say that I really liked the MGS re-make; my only complaint that it was short  and it didn't  give enough incentive to hunt down all those dog tags.

I wonder how a British magazine could scoop up a rumor on a Canadian Company. Anyways, its hard to trust 3rd party exclusives now. One can only hope it'll stop [saying its exclusive when it isn't] when the Revolution comes out. As long that haven't abandoned Nintendo completely, is fine by me.
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« Reply #18 on: November 20, 2004, 06:15:12 AM »
At first I was greatly dispointed that Silicon Knights left Nintendo, but considering how many games they have released in the alst 4 years (2).  And the fact that half of them were remakes, I dont mind so much anymore.  Its the exact same story as Rare.  Would we all be incredibly happy to play that Ghoulies game?
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« Reply #19 on: November 20, 2004, 12:17:04 PM »
yeah, true, I really dont miss Rare, none of their so far released Xbox game seem like an buying incentive like Halo 1/2 or Ninja Gaiden or whatever

times change, quality changes, maybe SK just lost their talent

btw, whats the deal with Zoonami?
I know theyre developing this multi plattform song game, althought their party owned by Nintendo???
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« Reply #20 on: November 20, 2004, 02:24:31 PM »
Speaking of Zoonami, their website is up. There's a lot of nice content on it, though they refuse to talk about anything other that Funkydilla. It appears they have three other titles they have not announced planned.

Apparently the 50s spy theme was a 'disguise', or something.  

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« Reply #21 on: November 20, 2004, 02:37:30 PM »
No Zoonami isnt owned by Nintendo their a Indy developer.  Martin Hollis from Zoonami did help with the development with gamecube though.
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« Reply #22 on: November 20, 2004, 10:20:18 PM »
Seems kinda odd that they have full synopses of the development strategies of Zelda: OoT and Super Mario World, though.

How would they know?  Just curious...  
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« Reply #23 on: November 20, 2004, 11:04:39 PM »
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Seems kinda odd that they have full synopses of the development strategies of Zelda: OoT and Super Mario World, though.


Yeah, they're good as well, though they limit the abstraction to such a degree that they're almost irrelevant if you want to design other games.

The water temple's map is very impressive.

There's nothing strange about respecting and analysing EAD's design methods, however. Most western writers about games tend to write alomst soley about western techniques. Western game design has a tendency to focus on certain idealities, while (good) Japanese games will incorperate them naturally, focusing instead on things like level archetecture and balance. By the looks of Hollis' speech, the Bond team did it pretty Japanese. They also have a thing about Treasure there, so I'm guessing they're just hungry for a decent write up about Japanese design principles. Aren't we all?  

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RE: Silicon Knights still working on games for GC
« Reply #24 on: November 21, 2004, 12:56:28 AM »
OMG ZOONAMI IS DOING THE MATURE ZELDA!11!111

But seriously, Zoonami has been marinating for a while.  I'd love to know what they are really up to--at this point it may be next gen development.
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