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TalkBack / RE: Twilight Princess to Use Revolution Controller

« on: December 24, 2005, 08:38:09 PM »

Well they could always make one disc have the GC controls and the other the REV. That way it would stay open-ended.

Problem Solved.


Truth to who ever said this news seems a little far-fetched. I always thought changing the controls was superficial, and never considered what it might do to the game's core. If the game has to be modified internally in order to use the REV, e.g. re-coding AI and such, then I can see reasons to skip an idea such as this one.

However, I also gave some thought to what Nintendo's motive could be. There are many good aspects for doing such a thing....I won't get into them, but let's say that I could provide a nice rebuttal to any good argument. If in fact TP's revisions do take alot of time to finish, they have plenty of time to finish and polish it.

["Zelda doesn't prove that Revolution will be home to epic games. Zelda is a Gamecube game.]

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Nintendo Gaming / RE: Rumour come True? Zelda: TP Forward Compatible?

« on: December 24, 2005, 01:36:26 PM »

"Zelda doesn't prove that Revolution will be home to epic games. Zelda is a Gamecube game.

I think your right about this point. Then again, something like this has never happened to a console ever, especially with a game so great and a console so contraversial. Therefore, we cannot pass judgment so quickly. Zelda could very well sell as many REVs as Mario, if marketed correctly, so it being a Gamecube game isn't exactly important. However, the need to prove the Revolution revolutionary is. Zelda can help, and so can the other "real" launch titles. As pissed as some gamecubers might be, they must realize that Nintendo is going all or nothing next generation. It is important they do everything RIGHT from the get go. They cannot afford to make any mistakes unless a greater good is the outcome. Having a great launch is essential. Honestly, if Nintendo wasn't so kind to their fanbase, Zelda would be a launch title with updated graphics and all. But Nintendo made a promise, and they feel obligated to hold it.

Still, they found the best comprimise. Iwata kept saying that Zelda TP was comparable to next-gen graphics, and I think he is going to prove it. I honestly love its graphics and when I compare them to Call of Duty 2, I'd much rather have Zelda's ability to draw you in rather than high textures and poor animation; fanboy or not. If it were to come out near the REV launch, then Zelda WOULD be the "home" for epic games. Graphics don't make it a REV game. If it has REV controls, then that is what makes it a REV game, besides it being released for the cube. Zelda would become the perfect example of how to make a REV adventure work. It will set the bar for all epic games afterwards, in terms of control and gameplay.

"Don't worry, it won't be, lol.

Personally, I'm hoping that there's a conducting game, a fishing game, a drum/maraca game (can you say Samba de Amigo?) AND a Mario Paint title early on to do exactly that. But that's already wishful thinking on my part."

I don't think one game can prove the ability of the REV. I think the entire catalog as a whole must prove the REV. It must better or as good as current setups in every single situation it is put into, be it sports, adventure, FPS, microgames, whatever. A Mario Paint would be great, but it alone won't do much. Mario needs to show exactly how it works for platformers; Zelda for Adventure; Metriod for FPS; and so on. As a collective, they can prove the Revolution revolutionary.

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General Gaming / RE: A comparision of the big three's customer service.

« on: December 24, 2005, 11:04:48 AM »

That's.....crazy. I've never heard of such a thing.

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Nintendo Gaming / RE: First Revolution Leak?

« on: December 24, 2005, 09:49:17 AM »

It's not so much the video that is important, it is the validity of the source. The source is now proven valid.

Your right Kirby, it does say Nintendo Revolution. Also, towards the end, where it shows the menu, the top two choices say "Nintendo" then something I can't understand.

I'll definitely be reading this blog now.

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TalkBack / RE: Twilight Princess to Use Revolution Controller

« on: December 24, 2005, 09:17:57 AM »

You bring up one of the best points Kairon, though I don't think you meant to.

Is Nintendo using Zelda as a template for Action-Adventure games for next-gen? Assuming that Mario, Metriod, and the Camelot RPG (announced well over two years ago) launch with the REV, that's four huge titles in four different genres. And assuming that all four of those games are nothing less than spectacular, couldn't they "show the way" to third-parties trying to do the same thing?

Maybe Nintendo thought it would be too late to show how an Action-Adventure game should truely work on the REV, assuming Zelda REV comes out a couple years after the REV launches. Maybe that's why they added this specific functionalty and are launching so close to the REV.

We've said it before. Nintendo needs to get the ball rolling right out of the gate. It needs to show us how games are revolutionary in many different genres. Zelda can now claim the adventure genre, with the rest following suit.

The more I think about it, the more this move is pure genius!  

[BigJim]

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Nintendo Gaming / RE:First Revolution Leak?

« on: December 24, 2005, 09:08:22 AM »

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Originally posted by: BigJim
Merrick did mention a "bar" that uses bluetooth to be placed above/below the TV.

Whatever it is, it doesn't *quite* look the same as the revmote's front as seen in the teaser video.

That's cause it's the back...

And whatever this might be, fake or real, we know that ubisoft is making two FPS's, one is which is sopposedly exclusive for the REV. Sure those were rumors, but it was enough to bring Louie back. I'll take that as confirmation anyday .

[[Taken from the Talk-Back forum] [We really need one thread]]

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Nintendo Gaming / RE: Rumour come True? Zelda: TP Forward Compatible?

« on: December 24, 2005, 09:03:09 AM »

I can't really fathom Zelda with REV controls being anything less than its GC counterpart. I don't think you guys are giving enough credit to Aunoma and Miyamoto. They wouldn't have taken the plunge, assuming they did, if they hadn't known for sure that the outcome would be anything less than spectacular. That's why I see this point, as interesting as it is, as moot.

I'm reluctant to believe that it is in fact debuting fall of next year. That's madness. If it were true, then the delay would total to over a year (1 year and two months to be exact, assuming November). I'm not exactly sure, but that would be the longest delay ever for a Nintendo first party game.

I think a more reasonable outcome is Nintendo hasn't delayed it at all. In fact, I really doubt the REV will come out next fall. The only REAL information regarding the REV's release date was given by ArtX, stating that they were aiming for a summer release. Honestly, I bet that roughly two or so weeks after E3, TP will launch fully-equipped with REV features. A month after that, the REV will start to launch in all territories. This gives them time to re-release the console next christmas season (maybe a new color and SSMB: Online) and rake in even more cash.

[Taken from the Talk-Back forum] [We really need one thread]

You bring up one of the best points Kairon, though I don't think you meant to.

Is Nintendo using Zelda as a template for Action-Adventure games for next-gen? Assuming that Mario, Metriod, and the Camelot RPG (announced well over two years ago) launch with the REV, that's four huge titles in four different genres. And assuming that all four of those games are nothing less than spectacular, couldn't they "show the way" to third-parties trying to do the same thing?

Maybe Nintendo thought it would be too late to show how an Action-Adventure game should truely work on the REV, assuming Zelda REV comes out a couple years after the REV launches. Maybe that's why they added this specific functionalty and are launching so close to the REV.

We've said it before. Nintendo needs to get the ball rolling right out of the gate. It needs to show us how games are revolutionary in many different genres. Zelda can now claim the adventure genre, with the rest following suit.

The more I think about it, the more this move is pure genius!