Topic: New North American (NPD) Sales Thread

[Ian Sane]

"Think of all the money Sega would've saved had they NOT developed the PS2 version!"

More like "Think of all the money Sega would've save had they not developed that game at ALL."  

I'm glad to see RE4 was the top seller for January.  See how it works third parties?  Release GOOD games that people with intelligence and good taste will buy and release it when there aren't 10 other great games being released at the same time and you make money!

[1day]

Here's the 3 console hardware sales taken from GA forums:


PS2: 488,000
Xbox: 241,000
Gamecube: 114,000


Something terribly wrong is going on when the best selling game of the month (and very appealing)  doesn't push hardware sales worth a damn.
I can only wonder how much impact the ps2 annoucement really made considering these sales.

[PaLaDiN]

"Something terribly wrong is going on when the best selling game of the month (and very appealing) doesn't push hardware sales worth a damn."

Not really... all you're seeing is that most of the people who wanted to play RE4 already bought a Cube for RE1.

I bet you'll see the same thing come Zelda.

[couchmonkey]

I think there's a HUGE Zelda audience that did not buy a Cube for the Wind Waker.  I honestly believe the cel shading killed the game for Joe Gamer...I have a friend...oops, never mind, no anecdotal evidence! NO!  Anyway, I still think that there are a lot of people who were turned off by Wind Waker's style and either never gave it a chance, or played it and still hated the graphics so much that they didn't like it.

Having said that, I also think there's also a bigger audience for RE4 than has bought into GameCube.  I think the PS2 announcement had a slight impact, but I think the GameCube's image had even more to do with it.  People were intrigued by but  ignored RE4 because they think (possibly correctly) that it will be the only game they want to play on the Cube between now and the release of the next-gen systems.

Edit: Ummm...so what's my point?  I do agree that a lot of people have already bought the console for the games they want, but I don't think everyone has.  And I think the reason for that is that Nintendo only has one or two games a year that these people really want.  Resident Evil 4 and Zelda aren't reason enough alone to buy a GameCube for some people when they could be playing Final Fantasy Ad Naseum.

[vudu]

I think franchises such as Resident Evil just don't have the selling power they used too.  Look at the sales for Twin Snakes and/or Snake Eater--they're pitiful compared to the older games.  (Acid hasn't been selling very well either, but I think we can ignore that one because it's a card game, not a typical Metal Gear game.)

[MaleficentOgre]

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Originally posted by: kingvudu
Pardon my ignorance, but what is Popolocrois Monogatari: Pietro Ouji no Bouken?

Its a remake of popolocrois one and two from the PS1.

[Rancid Planet]

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Originally posted by: couchmonkey
I think there's a HUGE Zelda audience that did not buy a Cube for the Wind Waker.  I honestly believe the cel shading killed the game for Joe Gamer...

You may be right there but Paladin still has a point. The amount of GCNs sold that the next Zelda game is responsible for may be numerous. But it won't be like what the Wind Waker accomplished. Sure, many gamers wanted something other than the cell shaded look that they got from WW but most of them bought the game (and a GCN too if they didn't have one) anyway. My point is just that the next Zelda game along with the new RE game won't be system sellers the way that their precursors have been.  

[Gamebasher]

Rancid planet, I disagree that the next Zelda and the RE4 wont be system sellers like their predescessors. I spoke to an employee at EB Games who marvelled at the fact that the next Zelda game will enable Link to knock other riders off their horses! He had not played any Zelda game since the SNES days, and didnĀ“t even know about OOT or MM(thatĀ“s when I told him about the promotional Zelda disc, which I still think they have a few copies of in the shops).  

He had already heard about the change in the visual style from Wind Waker (which he had played), but he was not interested at that point. But once I told him about the changes in gameplay, he was suddenly very interested, and said he will take a look at it when it is shown to us via E3. He will of course have ample opportunity to try out the new game in the EB Games shop where he works, once it comes out.

The manager of the shop told me how he had been drooling over the cinematics (how, for instance, the camera zooms into being the enemy, looking at you exploring an area just outside a house where he is inside), graphics and gameplay of RE4, and he was sure it would sell heavily to a new audience (see? This proves in this case that while people want outstanding graphics to go hand-in-hand with outstanding gameplay, it is still gameplay innovation which turns heads the most!). I think it, along with Zelda will. RE4 wont come out on any other platform until a year later, and I donĀ“t think that people who see THAT game will be capable of waiting that long...  

This straight from the hotbed of gamesales in my area, but I think it is the same wherever you go. People like Zelda, but mostly so when the graphics are realistic like is the case with so many other games.  

When the Zelda game is shown at E3, there will be mad raves of satisfaction heard a mile or so away from E3 itself, making outsiders think a herd of animals is inside! I, too, will be raving like a maniac! Making people think I am an elephant!

Zelda rules all!

Hope that game comes out at the same time worldwide. Fingers crossed, then.



   

[vudu]

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an employee at EB Games had not played any Zelda game since the SNES days, and didnĀ“t even know about OOT or MM

Wow.  I'm absolutely dumb-struck.  How is it possible not to know about these games?  I suppose I can understand never playing these games, but not even knowing of their existance?  Does this guy consider himself a gamer?

[Gamebasher]

I presume he simply was so concentrating on playing anything else in sight, that he completely forgot about the wonders of Nintendo 64!!

I have no other explanation for this behaviour!

[The Omen]

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think there's a HUGE Zelda audience that did not buy a Cube for the Wind Waker. I honestly believe the cel shading killed the game for Joe Gamer...I have a friend...oops, never mind, no anecdotal evidence! NO! Anyway, I still think that there are a lot of people who were turned off by Wind Waker's style and either never gave it a chance, or played it and still hated the graphics so much that they didn't like it.

I disagree.  Most of Zelda's huge audience bought GC at launch.  So they may have been disappointed, but they alrready owned the GC, so it had only moderate impact.

[Mario]

February NPD is here!

Hardware

PS2 = 533,000
Xbox = 212,000
GCN = 116,000

US Top 25 Videogame Titles

Rank Title Publisher
1 PS2 GRAN TURISMO 4 Sony
2 PS2 NBA STREET V3 Electronic A rts
3 PS2 GRAND THEFT: ANDRE A S Take Two Interactive
4 XBX NBA STREET V3 Electronic A rts
5 PS2 M ERCENARIES LucasArts
6 GCN RESIDENT EVIL 4 Capcom
7 PS2 CHAMPIONS:RETURN ARMS Sony
8 XBX MERCENARIES LucasArts
9 PS2 XENOSAGA EPISODE II Namco
10 GCN STAR FOX: ASSAULT Nintendo
11 PS2 MVP BASEBALL 2 0 0 5 Electronic A rts
12 GBA ZELDA: THE M INISH CAP Nintendo
13 PS2 NEED SPEED:UNDRGRND 2 E lectronic A rts
14 XBX HALO 2 Microsoft
15 GCN NBA STREET V3 Electronic A rts
16 PS2 TEKKEN 5 Tecmo
17 NDS WARIO WARE: TOUCHED! Nintendo
18 NDS SUPER MARIO 64 DS Nintendo
19 PS2 MADDEN NFL 2 0 0 5 Electronic A rts
20 PS2 THE PUNISHER THQ
21 PS2 NFL STREET 2 Electronic A rts
22 PS2 NBA L IVE 2 0 0 5 Electronic A rts
23 XBX MVP BASEBALL 2 0 0 5 Electronic A rts
24 XBX NEED SPEED:UNDRGRND 2 E lectronic A rts
25 PS2 SHADOW OF ROME Capcom
Source: The NPD Group/NPD Funworld, POS

PS2

1 GRAN TURISMO 4 Sony 30,527,340 $ 618,559
2 NBA STREET V3 Electronic Arts 10,424,910 $ 212,773
3 GRAND THEFT: ANDREAS Take-Two Interactive 7,634,198 $ 159,167
4 MERCENARIES LucasArts 5,238,154 $ 105,198
5 CHAMPIONS:RETURN ARMS Sony 5,023,108 $ 102,167

Xbox

1 NBA STREET V3 Electronic Arts 5,731,482 $ 117,251
2 MERCENARIES LucasArts 4,766,979 $ 95,825
3 HALO 2 Microsoft 3,581,293 $ 74,676
4 MVP BASEBALL 2005 Electronic Arts 2,639,682 $ 88,429
5 NEED SPEED:UNDRGRND 2 Electronic Arts 2,237,533 $ 44,957

GCN

1 RESIDENT EVIL 4 Capcom 5,205,004 $ 103,455
2 STAR FOX: ASSAULT Nintendo 4,414,608 $ 89,246
3 NBA STREET V3 Electronic Arts 3,508,036 $ 70,750
4 MARIO PARTY 6 W/MIC Nintendo 2,079,134 $ 41,871
5 MARIO POWER TENNIS Nintendo 1,180,361 $ 23,744

Handhelds

1 ZELDA: THE MINISH CAP Nintendo 3,768,164 $ 123,736
2 WARIOWARE: TOUCHED! Nintendo 3,089,347 $ 88,796
3 SUPER MARIO 64 DS Nintendo 2,973,033 $ 97,963
4 KINGDOM HEARTS: CHAIN Square Enix 1,941,077 $ 55,658
5 POKEMON FIRERED W/ADP Nintendo 1,608,479 $ 46,397

[couchmonkey]

Wow, PS2 really made a comeback!  Any ideas why?

[NinGurl69 *huggles]

Cuz they're the market leader with the largest audience by proportion.

[couchmonkey]

Yeah, but it's not just the games, the machine itself sold well over twice as much as the other two.  It seems quite weird after a close race between them and Microsoft for most of last year.
Edit...maybe the PStwo redesign boosted sales.  That's my only guess.

[vudu]

Or maybe it's the release of GT4.

Mario, where are DS numbers?

[mjbd]

I am just happy to see that RE4 has staying power.  I thought the sales might drop off after the first month, but with another 100k sold in February, which means the game is on track to sell well over a million copies on Gamecube.  Sales of gamecube kinda suck though, X-box and Gamecube use to be very close.  

[KDR_11k]

couchmonkey: I remember people talking about a shortage of PS2s (70k). Perhaps that's to blame.

[BlackNMild2k1]

Japanese Sales #'s Feb 28 - Mar 6

Software

1. PS2 Shin Sangoku Musou 4 / Koei / 129,000 / 699,000
2. PSP Tales of Eternia / Namco / 81,000 / 81,000
3. GBA Rockman EXE 5 Team of Colonel / Capcom / 38,000 / 101,000
4. GC Starfox Assault / Nintendo / 30,000 / 110,000
5. PS2 Dragonball Z / Bandai / 27,000 / 588,000
6. GC Harvest Moon: Song of Happiness / Marvellous / 21,000 / 21,000
7. DS Another Code: Two Memories / Nintendo / 20,000 / 80,000
8. PS2 Devil May Cry 3 / Capcom / 18,000 / 252,000
9. PS2 Jissen Pachislot: Fist of the North Star+ / Sega / 17,000 / 66,000
10. PSP Namco Museum / Namco / 12,000 / 34,000

Hardware

PSP - 47,633
PS2 - 44,228
DS - 25,759
GBASP - 12,307
GC - 3,635
GBA - 398
Xbox - 177

[Renny]

Take note NCL: RPG=sales. Release one early.

[Nosferat2]

A good RPG at that. God forbid the N drops another FF:CC at REVS launch. That would suck.

Anyway what do these numbers mean? RESIDENT EVIL 4 Capcom 5,205,004 $ 103,455

Thanks

[IceCold]

He copy/pasted that form a table so it loks weird

Anyway it means that RE4 has sold 103,000 copies or w/e that month and that equals $5,000,000 or w/e for that month (February)

[Nosferat2]

Thanks Icecold for clearing that up.  But can you tell me what "w/e" stands for so that i competely understand your post. Thanks.  

[IceCold]

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Originally posted by: Nosferat2
Thanks Icecold for clearing that up.  But can you tell me what "w/e" stands for so that i competely understand your post. Thanks.

Haha thank YOU for making me laugh for the first time today (actually probably the 5th time after watching Arrested Development)

Anyway, I was in a rush to write the message that instead of saying "whatever" I said "w/e". I know it looks a bit funny but I just use it sometimes as an abbreviation

[Nosferat2]

Doh! That should have been obvious, lol. But i was thinking along the line of "with "e" something". Couldnt figure what e meant. Anyway thanks dude.

BTW anyone know how to change screen names? I misspelled mine. Didnt see anything in the profile page.
Thanks
Nosfera2