Topic: New North American (NPD) Sales Thread

[BlackNMild2k1]

More Sales #'s  3/7 - 3/13

platform title publisher this week total
1 PS2 Shin Sangoku Musou 4 Koei 61,920 760,978
2 PS2 Sangokushi X Koei 30,541 new
3 PSP Tales of Eternia Namco 30,489 111,139
4 DS Pac Pix Namco 30,173 new
5 GBA Sennen Kazoku Nintendo 27,552 new
6 DS Meteos Bandai 22,304 new
7 PS2 Dragon Ball Z3 Bandai 18,050 606,267
8 PS2 Ys Napishtim no Hako Konami 16,490 new
9 GC Star Fox Assault Nintendo 15,240 125,573
10 PS2 Rockman X8 Capcom 14,927 new

platform this week last week 2005 total
1 PSP 46,307 47,633 536,476
2 PlayStation 2 41,349 44,228 562,046
3 Nintendo DS 26,537 25,759 407,099
4 GameBoy Advance SP 14,596 12,307 186,753
5 GameCube 4,245 3,635 66,659
6 Gameboy Advance 616 398 5,776
7 Xbox 244 177 4,261

[nolimit19]

so the PSP is owning the DS...nintendo is doomed.

[Mario]

No it isn't, no they aren't. You are doomed.

[SgtShiversBen]

I think that's amazing how in Japan (Sony's poo poo ground) that Nintendo is still really close considering all the things they've got going for them.  The price is pretty much the same there than it will be here in the states, the games are around the same, and Japan is a tech saavy country, so I'm sure everyone has some form of memory stick.  Hopefully it won't be like that here, but here's hoping that parents don't buy their kids everything that they want.  120,000 units isn't great, but it's still not the million or so Nintendo has on them.  

[KDR_11k]

I think the sales mirror the availability of good games. Both system lack great games so their sales are still pretty low but the PSP has more good games.

[Rancid Planet]

One mustn't forget though, Japan's love of quircky elelctronic gizmos. And the PSP is MORE than just a gaming system. It's a full on DOO DAD. Of course the Japanese love it. If it was also part toaster oven it would sell even better.

I understand this is an American mindframe as well but not nearly on the same commercial level as Japan.  


edit: I kneed two lirn to spal butter.

[Renny]

The PSP has more good games because there's one on the list? ToE is really the first game to sell well. I think one or two other PSP games showed up on the charts some weeks after their release, then disappeared as quickly. Rancid is right, it's techno-lust selling the PSP. Games are virtually irrelevant this early on. ToE is selling because it's an RPG for this system they just bought. It would be like releasing a 3D GTA on the PSP here. It would just sell because it's GTA on this new system.

There is some drive in America to have the latest-and-greatest gadget. But we're also very value-minded. The PS2 came with a free DVD player! The iPod is also percieved to have value, for some reason. I don't see the PSP having the same mass appeal as either of those two without generating a real interest in the games as well. UMD movies and music will fail here, period. So that won't promote the system. Nor will its MP3 abilities when other better MP3 players are so prolific. MemoryStick-based video playback will be underused here as it's too complicated for most.

Sony will have to make portable games 'cool' for the PSP to succeed. They stand a better chance at that than Nintendo, obviously. But till then it's still a niche product.

[KDR_11k]

Not necessarily, the PSP userbase is too small to make a significant impact on the top-ten. I don't think any DS titles stayed in there for many weeks, either.

Your mention of the iPod somewhat contradicts your point, westerners don't buy for value, they buy for the bragging rights (not exclusively but the japanese don't buy exclusively for the gadgetry, either). When asked by the police to wear no-name earphones instead of the iPod ones many iPod users said that'd defeat the purpose of the device.
In other words, they buy what's cool and what they think will make their peers respect them.

And remember, superiority was never a deciding factor in the tech world. The iPod sells despite superior alternatives, everybody went with the x86 and Windows, AOL is the most used online service, etc.

[Avinash_Tyagi]

In terms of hardware the PSP is doing well, but is still well behind ninty overall.

In software its been pathetic, one games selling 100K in two weeks isn't going to cut it for sony.

[Renny]

That's true, but the iPod builds on something that has long been socially acceptable: bad pop music. Sony will have to do the same with portable games, but I think they can within a couple years.

About value though: your reference to police suggests you're talking about the UK where iPod phones are like flaming white hot 'mug me' flags. The US is in a very different economic state than the UK. Game prices have been held at an artificially low price here even after the bubble burst to maintain sales. We're much more value-minded than the UK. Over here the iPod's success seems to be largely attributable to ignorance; everything else is a knock-off iPod. To be fair though, there's no clear 'superior alternative' to the iPod. Some may offer competitive value, but there's no real winner... besides Apple's bankroll, obviously.

And more on-topic: ToE's sales still pale in comparison to what Mario and Wario have done. This seems to be when they dropped from the charts. If the PSP's install base is now at about half the DS's, why is its biggest game selling so moderately? Mario and Wario debuted at ~150k when there were only 500k DSes.

Anyway you're trying to prove game quality through sales figures. A contradiction of your latter statements. So this debate was doomed to begin with.

[KDR_11k]

Off the top of my head I can name Aldi/Medion's 20Gb "MP3 Jukebox", which had the same internals and features as an iPod, a replaceable battery plus WMA support at a lower price.

[Rancid Planet]

But all of this of course, is not to mention that the PSP may actually be a "really good" system that may crush the DS under the weight of it's mighty bootheel.

Just a concern I have. You don't share it too? Okay then, back to SM64...the same game I've been playing on my DS since I bought it.

[BlackNMild2k1]

More #'s 03/14/05 - 03/20/05

Japan charts: Media Create 14 - 20 Mar
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Software:
1. PS2 Phantom Kingdom (incl. ltd ed) - Nippon Ichi - 73,000
2. PS2 Dynasty Warriors 5 - Koei - 38,000 - 799,000
3. PS2 One Piece Grand Battle! Rush - Bandai - 37,000
4. NGC Donkey Konga 3 - Nintendo - 37,000
5. PS2 Ensnoozia - Konami - 31,000
6. PS2 Nana - Konami - 30,000
7. NDS Harvest Moon: Corobockle Station - Marvellous - 28,000
8. NGC One Piece Grand Battle! Rush - Bandai - 22,000
9. PSP Sarugetchu P! - SCE - 20,000
10. PSP Tales of Eternia - Namco - 20,000 - 131,000

Hardware:
PSP 43,644
PS2 40,270
DS 22,446
GBASP 11,013
GC 3,357
GBA 477
Xbox 345

DS - 1,925,141
PSP - 1,062,372

[IceCold]

WOW the GBA sales have gone down so much

[ruby_onix]

The GBA was discontinued. They aren't making them anymore. Actually, I'm surprised that anyone is still buying the plain-old GBA.

[IceCold]

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Originally posted by: ruby_onix
The GBA was discontinued. They aren't making them anymore.

Thanks, I didn't know what discontinued meant.

Just kidding - I don't think you meant it that way

[BlackNMild2k1]

More charts from Japan  March 21-27

Hardware

DS - 55,825
PSP - 43,043
PS2 - 40,398
GBASP - 14,904
GC - 4,568
GBA - 653
Xbox - 406

Software:

1. PS2 World Soccer Winning Eleven 8 Liveware Evolution - Konami - 238,000 (NEW)
2. PS2 Wild Arms The 4th Detonator - SCE - 131,000 (NEW)
3. NDS Touch! Kirby - Nintendo - 75,000 (NEW)
4. PS2 Shining Force Neo - Sega - 63,000 (NEW)
5. PSP Bleach: Heat the Soul - SCE - 37,000 (NEW)
6. NDS Egg Monster Hero - Square Enix - 31,000 (NEW)
7. PS2 Dynasty Warriors 5 - Koei - 26,000 (825,000)
8. PS2 Phantom Kingdom - Nippon Ichi - 17,000 (90,000)
9. NDS Harvest Moon Corobockle Station - Marvellous - 17,000 (45,000)
10. NGC Donkey Konga 3 Tabehoudai - Nintendo - 16,000 (53,000)

Surprise surprise, looks like the DS is back at the top of the sales charts again!!!!!!
well................. at least for this week.

[Don'tHate742]

God, this is the lamest thread title EVER! You mods don't have to tell us your sick and twisted dreams that "just won't go away" of Mario!

I'm glad DS is kicking ass...

World Soccer Winning Eleven 8.....*drools*

[IceCold]

I hope you're proud of yourselves admins - my virgin eyes have been tainted with the title.

[IceCold]

BTW thanks for the sales figures BlacknMild - the DS is on top this week because of the new colours, like Noble~Feather said in the DS Forum.  

[Caterkiller]

Not only the new DS's, but Kirby was sure to raise sales. The japanese are nuts for that guy, and he's in a super cool new way to play game.  

[IceCold]

Mods..I think that quite a few people want to know what the title is all about - I don't think many of them saw what it was previously.

[Bill Aurion]

This title has been hijacked by a unknown terrorist organization...Thankfully, they just wanted to have fun for April Fool's...

(For anyone that for some reason can't tell what this thread is about, it's where weekly game sales from japan or monthly U.S. sales (NPD) are discussed)

[IceCold]

About 24 hours ago, the title was something that I don't think any of you would want to read..

[ruby_onix]

I hijacked this thread last year. This year, the mods beat me to it.

But I still got to play.