Topic: Xbox live???

[BigHit30]

That is why you get an xbox or ps2 for online multiplayer because no need to upgrade to play the lastest games.  I have both for online but XBox Live is way better and the HDD is actually used for content and cool stuff instead of just storing a game for fast load times like ff which the ps2 apparently needs a lot.  Is it true that FF takes up about half the HDD?

[NinGurl69 *huggles]

Like I said ealier, the games don't interest me enough to warrant the $150+ purchase.  The money for a new console would be like the money for a reliable graphics card -- but I won't part with my current one, so that is my loss and my curse.

[KDR_11k]

Well, I occassionally play Saga of Ryzom online, but only because there's no offline mode. I'll probably stop doing that once the fees kick in.

There don't seem to be any really interesting online games on the market right now, all you can get are FPS and RTS games. In the former you get killed by people who don't have such a f###ing high ping, in the latter you have to learn build orders by heart unless you want to lose in five minutes. Then there are the racing games, which you lose if you make a single error... Oh, of course there are the click&watch... err.... MMO games but aside from Guild Wars they all cost money to play.

[vixtro]

ok i recomend gettinga good 600k broadband connection which will be around £30 a month then get xbox starter kit for £40 and get some good live games like pgr2 and rainbow six 3 then play em on live for a year free and after that its just £40 or each year

**WARNING** take much care if u do get xbox live because it may and most proly eat all ur time up

and if ur a really big hardcore gamer like me and got £200 to spend, i suggest big time that u get steel battalion and its live version on ebay or somewhere else if u can

[KDR_11k]

600k? Hell, I have 768k and games lag like hell!

[vixtro]

depends what service ur using, i use NTL and i get good lag free games nearly all the time, heck the game i only do ever get lag on is rainbow six 3 but project gotham 2 and steel battalion (as long as its 3 vs 3 or under) dont get any lag really

[KDR_11k]

T-DSL. UT2004 gets around 100ms, that's absolutely unplayable (sniping a plane without ping is hard enough, try that if you have to guess its position 100ms in advance).

[manunited4eva22]

There are a bunch of things you can do
1) find a server closer
2) find a server that is on a better pipe (ex. Lanfire pipe for us)
3) upgrade upload/download bandwith

Just for starters.

[KDR_11k]

From what I heard 100ms is normal for a 768/128 DSL line. I could upgrade the download to 1536k, but the upload would still remain at 128k, which bottlenecks the whole thing. Also, that upgrade is pricey and not something I'd consider worth it. Besides, I have other people on the network who want their share of the bandwidth as well... But then again slow games like R6 probably don't need that low of a ping (you can't aim that accurately with a controller, anyway).

[manunited4eva22]

Ack, 128k upload?  thats just no fun.

[KDR_11k]

I think for twice the money plus a big signup fee I could get twice that upload from another provider, but I don't think that's worth it.

[evil intentions]

I have Xbox live but I rarely use it. I don't enjoy it very much. I'd rather play it with some of my buddies in multiplayer mode any day. I only use it if I have nothing better to do and no one to do nothing with...

[oohhboy]

I play AAO at a friends house often and that is one lag sensitive game. It is hopeless for close quater combat. No better than shooting blanks alot of times. At longer ranges it is more forgiving and is pretty good even with a lag from NZ to US west of 150 to 200. But sniping is still extremly sensitive to lag as in I can snipe a standing target supported and still miss at 200 meters. But from what I hear it is a charterisc of the heavey sniper rifle.

But if I lead the shot on a moving target I get them almost everytime.

Mind you though this is a shared BB connection and bandwidth is not the major issue. It is lag. Bandwidth only influances this is you don't have enough of it to recieve the info and even the most basic BB has enough bandwidth for most games.