i want to see someone in america that starved to death last year. i never said that people werent hungery or that poverty doesnt exist. i said people arent starving to death(meaning everyone has what it takes to survive in the us). i have gone out to feed the homeless several times. i personally love helping people that are less fortunate than i. the thing is, if it comes down to it, you can get the basic essentials in america in a legit way without help from anyone. funny how millions of illegal immigrants can get on their own two feet with a little elbow greese. they risk death, imprisonment, and deportation by coming here and putting it all on the line. most illegals dont resort to crime because they dont want to be sent back to where they came from. like i said its not a lack of jobs, its a lack of desire. i cant speak for any country but america, but if you have it bad enough that you cant take care of yourself, either you messed up, or you are in the very small minority that have no control over a long list of things that happened in their life. for instance....maybe a girl gets raped and has a baby, and her parents throw her out of the house cuz they thing she is a whore. that is sad and not selfinflicted. or maybe you are insane because you served in vietnam. again not your fault. maybe you were born with a diablity and your parents are too poor too support you. again, sad and something that should be addressed. however, maybe you are a fat pos that lives in a trailer and has babies all day and collects on social security and medicare. that my friend is strait robbery. thats why i said...health care for the poor and elderly...although IDEALY not the best thing, may be ok. but social security and just handing money over to poor people. absolutely rediculous. i live in phoenix, and there are tons of illegals here that make a decent honest living. i am a prime example of someone who needs a job, but isnt willing to go and mow lawns or do yard work, or whatever else it is that needs to be done. however if i was is dire need of supporting myself, i wouldnt go the the government to get money, i would quit school and get myself a job. and let me tell you, you never see illegals begging for money, they are begging for jobs, and they obviously usually get them because they keep coming. if you want a job and the ability to suport yourself that bad, in america, you can do it. you may not live like a king, and you may need to share a room with someone...you may have to use public transit or a bike...hell you may even have to wear the same clothes a few days in a row, but you can survive. again its not that i dont feel bad for people in worse shape then i, its just that i dont htink that BIG BROTHER should force you to pay for someone elses stuff. in america there are plenty of opertunities for everyone. and the reason i feel so strongly about this is because medicare, medicaid and social secuity are our 3 biggest things on the budget. we pay too many taxes. simple as that. you want to make money. do it the way everyone else does it WORK FOR IT!