Author Topic: Eidos drops all Gamecube support (Read 24146 times)

AgentSeven · « **Reply #75 on:** September 06, 2003, 05:34:44 PM »

Hey Piac, you don't like my opinions? Well, tough. This is a free country. I really could care less what you think. Thruthfully I think you are an uninformed, illiterate punk. One who shoots his mouth off about things he knows nothing about.

Also, I hate to tell you this, but many, many people in here actually agree with me. I know thats hard for you to understand, but its the truth.

Finally, if I come off as aggressive, well that's just my nature. I just get sick of whiny ten year olds who think every peice anti-Nintendo proaganda is true. This level of ignorance truly frustrates me. People need to educate themselves. We are heading for dangerous times when people are willing to believe everything they read as fact. All I see in the forum is a bunch of hysterical kids who think Nintendo is going out of business, when nothing is further from the truth.

This is a Nintendo forum after all. You'd think that it would be filled with die-hard Nintendo fans. Instead we get "FanBoys" for other systems, who sit here and attack everything Nintendo does. These people are the same folks who stay on their computers 24/7 because basically, they have no lives and/or friends. It's really sad actually...

As for Square, think "remake"...

ThePerm · « **Reply #76 on:** September 06, 2003, 05:35:52 PM »

timesplitters 2 is such a high rated game its quite annoying to hear people argue that it sucks that give no valid reasons other then that it was published by Eidos. Well people are allowed to have their opinions on this board even if they have stupid ones.

and there was an attack on Grey Ninja and Piac's intelligence.....which is like unforgivable.

and you couldnt be faryther from the truth Grey Ninja has a Nintendo tatoo for crying outloud. Abd you should see Piac's Room. What your probably doing is amalgamizing some other forum with ours. This is a rabid Nintendo fan board.

mouse_clicker · « **Reply #77 on:** September 06, 2003, 05:36:10 PM »

What fanboys for other systems? I don't remember seeing any Sony or MS fanboys entering into this debate.

AgentSeven · « **Reply #78 on:** September 06, 2003, 05:46:34 PM »

This forum is filled with fanboys for other systems. Every time someone posts some "Nintendo is Doomed" thread it gets a slew of responses from people more than willing to agree.

As for TS 2, reviews mean nothing. Reviews are easily bought. I acutally owned the game. This may be my opinion, but the cinema scenes were just plain stupid. I hated the fact that you could shoot someone in the head 3 to 5 times before they died. Not to mention the fact that some of it's levels
were extremely reminiscent of levels seen in other games. (Golden Eye especially.) Plus the character models never worked for me, everything was ugly and cartoonish. If this was such a good game, then why didn't sell more? It was discounted to $20 really fast.

Also, a lot of people don't know that Free Radical was actually Rare's garbage. Programmers on the low end of the totem pole. Martin Hollis was the real brains behind that operation, and he still works for Nintendo.

I have said my peace.

mouse_clicker · « **Reply #79 on:** September 06, 2003, 05:49:25 PM »

No, the lead designer for Goldeney at least (I think he worked on Perfect Dark, too) is with Free Radical now. Besides, who cares WHICH people from Rare are at Free Radical, they're still a great developer in my opinion.

AgentSeven · « **Reply #80 on:** September 06, 2003, 05:54:48 PM »

Untrue, it was Martin Hollis who was the lead designer for Golden Eye. Look it up.

Reguardless of what you think, Free Rad, in my opinion, still sucks.

mouse_clicker · « **Reply #81 on:** September 06, 2003, 06:11:05 PM »

We're both wrong- Martin Hollis left Nintendo to set up another developer we all know that employs ex-Rare people- Zoonami.

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AgentSeven · « **Reply #82 on:** September 06, 2003, 06:17:28 PM »

Actually, Zoonami is almost a "second party." Most of their funding comes from Nintendo. As for Martin Hollis, he was indeed the real genius behind Goldeneye.

RABicle · « **Reply #83 on:** September 06, 2003, 06:22:39 PM »

What have Zoonami done anyway? I dont recall anything that they've accomplished.

mouse_clicker · « **Reply #84 on:** September 06, 2003, 06:24:24 PM »

He was project lead for both Goldeneye and Perfect Dark, and although I liked Goldeneye better, I love Perfect Dark.

RABicle: Nothing...... yet. They have a mysterious game entitled "GameZero" in the works for the Gamecube which is reportedly going to be very original and extraordinary.

PIAC · « **Reply #85 on:** September 06, 2003, 07:20:23 PM »

proof im hardly a fanboy for another system

i love nintendo, the only non nintendo console i own is the master system which i got a few months ago, i just dislike rabid fanboyism/treating Sony and Microsoft like 'the enemy' and such, its a bit silly. but eh what ever, im hardly going to change your opinion of me, nor i of you, better to just let it go

Perfect Cell · « **Reply #86 on:** September 06, 2003, 07:35:13 PM »

Alot of people didnt like TS2. The cartoony look, and the weak Single player story line turned off many. Thats fine, personally i loved TS. The multiplayer is great. And basically its the best FPS on the Gamecube. Its heads and shoulders above Turok, or any of the 007 FPS... and in a system with no Perfect Dark, or anything coming up, time splitters is a godsend.

AgentSeven · « **Reply #87 on:** September 06, 2003, 07:38:13 PM »

Listen, I actually like Microsoft, believe it or not. I love my X-Box, even though it's a financial failure.
I also love Sega, they were Nintendo's only true equal. NEC was great as was SNK. Heck, back in the day, Atari was a great company as well. (Before the Trammiel family took over.)

It's only $ony, and their "style over substance" philosophy that bothers me. They actually make me fear for the future of gaming in general. Their approach has acutally turned off an entire generation of gamers. Console and game sales are down and the market is flooded with sequels and look-alike titles. It seems that any no-talent company can make a game for PS1+PS2. I wont even get into the infamous $10 games for PS1. They were the most shameless rip off the public has ever seen. I won't even mention the shoddy quality of their hardware.

So in conclusion. I know I can seem a bit "rabid" when it comes to my anti-$ony bashing, and I don't mean to offend. Seriously. Maybe I'm a bit of a hypocrite, I actually own a ps2, even though it hasn't been used in months. Still, I can see the writting on the wall, and $ony's philosophy has been very damaging to gamers everywhere. I doubt that I will own a Ps3.

However, your'e right, this is a dead topic. I just wanted to clarify my position.

ps. that Master System was a great score

KDR_11k · « **Reply #88 on:** September 06, 2003, 10:00:28 PM »

Agent, how come you have information that none of the news sites have? (believe it or not, some of 'em are driven by Fanboys) Or was that an NDA breach?
Just because someone applies a common sense filter before taking information doesn't mean they're KGB spies (or hostile fanboys, for that matter). No normal person will love everything N does and hate everything that happens "against" them. You're applying a pro-N spin to absolutely everything you say and when someone disagrees with that you scream "Sony Fanboy!". If you ask me that's just having weak arguments and covering up for it.

My theory about Eidos is: They have a low and need to take action to satisfy stock holders. So they chose to drop support for something they never really supported and put a "This is the best thing to do!" PR spin on it. Doesn't seem like it worked out. Of course they hope more companies do the same so their stockholders get convinced it was actually a good thing.

Mario · « **Reply #89 on:** September 06, 2003, 10:14:56 PM »

Heh, if your talking about that Final Fantasy 7 remake for GameCube AgentSeven, then ive already heard about that, and its most likely BS. But come TGS and we shall see

Boffo · « **Reply #90 on:** September 07, 2003, 06:03:18 AM »

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Originally posted by: AgentSeven
I hated the fact that you could shoot someone in the head 3 to 5 times before they died.

The best way to play Timesplitters 2 is one shot kill. It's much more fast-paced and devouring.

mouse_clicker · « **Reply #91 on:** September 07, 2003, 09:52:31 AM »

Agent: Until you've played Ico, never, I repeat NEVER say Sony is style over substance. Saying something like that obviously proves you have not played Sony's games, especially their more recent ones.

AgentSeven · « **Reply #92 on:** September 07, 2003, 11:57:23 AM »

I've played ICO. Actually I've played most of the games in the $ony stable. It's actually part of my job as a retail buyer to know my products well. I must be informed about EVERY title out there. Otherwise my stores will be filled with "dump bin" games. You know the ones. The titles nobody wants and you can't sell them even at the low price of $10.

Anyway. I liked ICO's concepts, and the gameplay was fairly solid, but truthfully, after a while, it just just began to bore me.

Besides, that's only one fairly decent game. I know people will cite other $ony titles that they enjoyed, and truthfully I'd rather not get into that. However in the end I stand by my strong statement that $ony has always been about "style and marketing over substance." I've played so many of their games, it's hard to convince me otherwise. Pretty much all of the good games on PS1 and PS2 were made by third parties who had been making great games on other systems for years.
(Usually on a Nintendo system...)

AgentSeven · « **Reply #93 on:** September 07, 2003, 12:04:46 PM »

As for Square, the re-make is old news, and who knows you may not see it on the GC, but you never know. I actually am the one who put this story out there in the first place. It came from a strange conversation I overheard while visiting NYC over a year ago. I created a little thing called the "Dreamcast Final Fantasy Collection." It has over 55 NES era FF games, rare translations of FF2+3, plus tons more. (you can see the cover over at www.cdcovers.cc) Well after putting out over 3500 copies of this game collection worldwide, I eventually made friends with some hard core FF fans, who just happened to work for a certain company....

My information comes from my non-stop detective work. I can't stand how impossible it is to get the truth out of the video game industry. Almost every magazine and website out there is "owned" (not literally) by the publicity departments of the major video game companies. You hear only what they want you to hear. It's this process that convinces the ignorant masses that bad games are good and that "style over substance" is a sound concept. However the informed game knows better, and that's where I come in. Some of the info I hear is nothing more than rumor. However some of it is PURE FACT, the kind you won't see in the pages of EGM. I think dedicated gamers DESERVE to know the truth.

As for my opinions on Eidos. I think the poor sales of their games more that back up my earlier statements. Poor sales and mediocre reviews, both are solid proof of what I am saying in reguards to Eidos' lack of quality.

mouse_clicker · « **Reply #94 on:** September 07, 2003, 12:09:51 PM »

I'm not reading your posts anymore- the simple fact that you spell Sony with a dollar sign shows you're a hopeless fanboy with no future beyond Nintendo. Get a clue, get a life- there's stuff besides Nintendo out there.

AgentSeven · « **Reply #95 on:** September 07, 2003, 12:13:36 PM »

Hey douche, like I said before, I own every game system from the Atari 2600 to the X-Box. The only company I hate is $ony, and there's nothing wrong with that. I actually hated $ony before they even made the original Playstation. I actually had a job with them for a week before I quit, but that's another story.

Mouse you need to get out more and stop being so judgemental. Just because I don't like $ony, doesn't mean that I only play Nintendo. How stupid are you anyway?

mouse_clicker · « **Reply #96 on:** September 07, 2003, 12:20:47 PM »

You tell me! I'm not the one who decided Sony sucks before even giving them a chance. I've owned nothing but Nintendo consoles until 2000 but that doesn't mean I don't give the respect and credit that Sony deserves. At least I don't categorize companies into stereotyped groups for easier bashing and flaming. Sony's done more for this industry than you're willing to admit, but you're so blinded you can't realize that. Every time you call me stupid or ignorant, you're only pounding in the fact that you're hopelessly astray from real life. Enjoy your pointless journey into nothingness and I hope I won't be seeing you back at the lodge.

AgentSeven · « **Reply #97 on:** September 07, 2003, 12:24:16 PM »

The only thing $ony has done is to steal other people good ideas. I will give them credit for one thing only, the demo disc. That's it.

By the way, did I mention that I own a PS1 and a Ps2? Where are you getting this hysteria from? You getting way out of hand. I have the right to say $ony sucks if I wan't to. This is a Nintendo site after all. Go to a $ony site and all you will hear is how much "Nintendo is Doomed" and how the X-Box sucks, even though it is superior to the PS2 in almost every way.

You need to calm down. I can say $ony sucks if I wan't to and I stand by that statement.

mouse_clicker · « **Reply #98 on:** September 07, 2003, 12:30:59 PM »

And I can say you're an idiot for saying so- if you have the right to have an opinion about Sony, I have the right to have an opinion about you, which is currently that I have no idea how your brain can find the energy to actually operate your body when it's spending so much radiating absurdity from your posts.

Anyway, I'd like to apologize for turning this thread into a flame war.

AgentSeven · « **Reply #99 on:** September 07, 2003, 12:36:13 PM »

Abusurdidty? There are many, many people who agree with my statements about $ony. Also, for the most part, I have not insutled you, other than calling you a douche, once. I noticed that you haven't the intellect to argue reasonably, and that you must resort to childish name calling. Well, whatever. Your'e really not worth the effort. I have beaten you intellectually in every way. How does it feel?

You can have the last word.

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Author Topic: Eidos drops all Gamecube support (Read 24146 times)