Author Topic: Eidos drops all Gamecube support (Read 24126 times)

AgentSeven · « **Reply #50 on:** September 06, 2003, 12:44:20 PM »

Hmm, whats killing X-Box? I'll tell you, it's the fact that it has no real japanese developer support.

The companies Big N has alligned itself with are like GOLD. As for Square, they have a BIG suprise
in store for Nintendo fans, other than just FF:CC and FF:Tactics Advance.

But I'll let you guys find that out for yourselves....

AgentSeven · « **Reply #51 on:** September 06, 2003, 12:45:30 PM »

mouse_clicker · « **Reply #52 on:** September 06, 2003, 12:46:25 PM »

So the Gamecube and XBox are kind of even- Nintendo with no western support, Microsoft with no eastern support. And who's in the lead? Sony, who has western AND eastern support.

And FF Tactics Advance is a GBA game, as I thought the name would imply. That benefits the Gamecube in no way at all.

AgentSeven · « **Reply #53 on:** September 06, 2003, 12:48:58 PM »

AgentSeven · « **Reply #54 on:** September 06, 2003, 12:50:12 PM »

Like I said, there is something else on the way, other than the two games I mentioned. If I told you what it was, no one would believe me, so....

X-Box and GameCube are hardly "even." Nintendo has actually MADE money on the GC, whereas
M$ has lost over 1 1/2 BILLION on the box since launch.

As for $ony, we all know the real reason they are number one. Style over substance. They wont be number one for long however, that you can take to the bank.

I have said my peace.

I only speak the truth

Grey Ninja · « **Reply #55 on:** September 06, 2003, 12:50:42 PM »

mouse clicker, western support isn't much. Especially since EA hates Xbox. Nintendo's strongest partners right now are Capcom, Konami, Sega, and Namco though I believe, who are providing some excellent exclusive games for us.

As for Square, I don't think that we should speak so soon. Games by Square or Enix take YEARS to finish, and Square hasn't been back for that long. I may be wrong on this, but I anticipate no less than 1 more high profile game for GCN before N5. I highly doubt that Nintendo would allow GBA development without appropriate GCN development from Square.

mouse_clicker · « **Reply #56 on:** September 06, 2003, 12:52:46 PM »

Just face the fact- if Nintendo had as much western support as microsoft did, on top of their eastern support, they'd be doing a LOT better. You may not like Sony, but the fact is it's because of their combination of western and eastern support that they're crushing the competition like a bug. Nintendo is seen as unprofitable in the west and Microsoft is seen as unprofitable in the east, and THAT'S why both are leagues behind Sony.

And if Square has anything else planned for the Gamecube, I'll be surprised. What I wouldn't be surprised about is Square blaming Nintendo if Crystal Chronicles doesn't sell well over here.

"X-Box and GameCube are hardly "even." Nintendo has actually MADE money on the GC, whereas
M$ has lost over 1 1/2 BILLION on the box since launch."

Stop skirting the issue- this has nothing to do with profitablilty and everything to do with sales, which the Gamecube and XBox are very close in.

Ninja: How can you just blow off western support? All you anime and manga fans seem to lose track of the fact that the west is just as important as the east. If western support wasn't so great, why is GTA propelling the PS2 into unimagined heights of success? Are you going to argue that GTA isn't important to Sony? What about games like Madden NFL, which sould millions upon millions of copies in less than a month. I suppose games like that aren't important at all, right?

Grey Ninja · « **Reply #57 on:** September 06, 2003, 12:55:25 PM »

Crystal Chronicles is a guaranteed megahit over here.

mouse_clicker · « **Reply #58 on:** September 06, 2003, 12:59:22 PM »

How can you say that? I can indeed see it selling well, proportionally, due to the Final Fantasy name, but otherwise look at the facts- it's a spinoff, which people usually don't take too kindly to, it's on a system with a mediocre amount of western owners, and it requires GBA's if you want to get the real experience (I know that game NEEDS GBA's for multiplayer, but Steel Battallion NEEDED it's huge controller, and yet that didn't make it sell better). I know the game won't flop- far from it- but it's equally as far from a guaranteed smash hit.

nitsu niflheim · « **Reply #59 on:** September 06, 2003, 12:59:38 PM »

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Originally posted by: rpglover
well the only game i have been looking forward to from eidos was the new legacy of kain game- all i have heard are good things about this game- it seems that they worked out a lot of the problems with the other games, and have headed into a more action-based affair in this game- i hope it works out for the better- but i would have liked to see that game for the cube

All we got was the crap ass Blood Omen 2, a long time after the PS2 and Xbox got theirs, we never got Soul Reaver 2. So seeing that we didn't get SR 2, why would we get the new one even if Eidos didn't put their head up their ass?

AgentSeven · « **Reply #60 on:** September 06, 2003, 01:31:52 PM »

Wait a minute, has anyone here actually played Final Fantasy:CC? I have and it RULES!!!!

I can't say that enough, really. As for the "problem" of having four GBA's, I have been able to purchase 3 original GBA's for the price of $20 each! Seriously, I found them at local pawn shops.
This is something to consider for all of you who are planning to purchase this title. The original GBA can be found VERY cheaply if you look in the right places. Heck, $20 a peice is cheaper than a new WaveBird.

Grey Ninja · « **Reply #61 on:** September 06, 2003, 01:57:43 PM »

Edited before a moderator noticed.

mouse_clicker · « **Reply #62 on:** September 06, 2003, 03:38:42 PM »

The point isn't that you need a GBA per person to play FF:CC in multiplayer, or how good the game is, it's a matter of public opinion, and a lot of people don't like the whole GBA thing. If you'd like to go educate every single one of them, good luck, but the public opinion remains the same that it sucks you have to use GBA's for the game. I don't agree at all, but that IS what they think.

AgentSeven · « **Reply #63 on:** September 06, 2003, 04:07:05 PM »

First off Grey Ninja, who are you to question my motivations? You don't even know me. Did you ever bother to think that I might have several video game playing friends? You see I have many, many friends, unlike yourself.

Also my IQ is about 155. As I can see from the illiteracy of your recent posts, your IQ is the one to question. You want to throw down in an intellectual debate? Just bring it...

Now for you Mouse, since when did you become the barometer for public opinion. I actually believe that once the public ACTUALLY plays FF:CC, they might just be compelled to purchase and extra GBA for themselves, the game is literally that good.

Also, don't lecture me on public opinion. I work as a retail buyer, it's my job to know what public opinion is. I have been to the last 5 E3's and several CES shows as well. The line of people waiting to play FF:CC at this years E3 was a mile long.....

Educate yourselves fools...

I only speak the truth. You only speak B.S. Comeback in 6 months when you have ACTUALLY PLAYED FF:CC, then you can register your ignorant opinions.

mouse_clicker · « **Reply #64 on:** September 06, 2003, 04:11:15 PM »

Triple post strikes again!

mouse_clicker · « **Reply #65 on:** September 06, 2003, 04:12:20 PM »

Triple post strikes again!

mouse_clicker · « **Reply #66 on:** September 06, 2003, 04:14:48 PM »

Grey Ninja is an extremely good poster, and although YOU may not see that from what he says, OTHER people do.

And how am I the barometer for public opinion? Open your eyes and listen, man. If you'd do just that, you'd realise a LOT of people are pissed off about FF:CC needing GBA's. Hell, there was a huge debate/flame war in this very forum over that exact topic. Gabe from Penny Arcade can't even convince the masses that there's a REASON you need GBA's for the game. Maybe I'm not a very accurate "barometer" in your opinion, but any idiot could figure out that on the whole people don't like the idea. This isn't ABOUT how good the game is, or what people would think IF they played the game- it's public opinion RIGHT NOW. Jesus, and you're the one calling ME ingorant.

AgentSeven · « **Reply #67 on:** September 06, 2003, 04:22:09 PM »

Public opinion at this moment doesn't mean crap. Seriously. Opinions will change once people ACTUALLY play the game. That is my point.

Come back in 6 months and we will see who is correct. I expect that FF:CC will move a large amount of GameCubes all on it's own.

Also, no one has even bothered to mention that the GBA connectivity issue is really more over blown, anti-Nintendo hype. Since when has there ever been a multi-player FF game to begin with? I know some people gripe over the need for GBA connectivity, but the real truth of the matter is, once they play the game, their opinions will change.

mouse_clicker · « **Reply #68 on:** September 06, 2003, 04:27:04 PM »

It doesn't matter WHAT kind of hype it is, that's what people THINK. And who's gonig to play the game at all if they've already decided they don't like it. Seriously, I hope I'm completely wrong on this issue, but it would appear, at least to me, that I'm not.

Mario · « **Reply #69 on:** September 06, 2003, 04:27:36 PM »

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Originally posted by: AgentSeven
Like I said, there is something else on the way, other than the two games I mentioned. If I told you what it was, no one would believe me, so....

I would believe you.

PIAC · « **Reply #70 on:** September 06, 2003, 04:42:17 PM »

i wouldn't because i think very little of you and what you say, your a very annoying agressive person, passing off your opinion's as fact and attacking others, it riles me up quite alot. your 'fighting for truth' as you call it annoys more people than it educates due to your agressive and self richous (sp?) attitude. thats my opinion on the matter anyway

err uhm yeah... edios blows..

mouse_clicker · « **Reply #71 on:** September 06, 2003, 04:45:48 PM »

Righteous.

PIAC · « **Reply #72 on:** September 06, 2003, 04:48:18 PM »

bah, i spent about 5 minutes on dictionary.com trying to find that, curse my terrible spelling!

Boffo · « **Reply #73 on:** September 06, 2003, 05:09:54 PM »

Free Radical isn't developing for Eidos anymore, so that's good news for Timesplitters 3.

http://www.ultimategamez.com/newspro/fullnews.cgi?newsid1062822174,21783,

mouse_clicker · « **Reply #74 on:** September 06, 2003, 05:11:39 PM »

Yay!

I REALLY hope they put Timesplitters 3 on the Gamecube.

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Author Topic: Eidos drops all Gamecube support (Read 24126 times)