Topic: Super Smash Bros. Ultimate And The Never-Ending 3rd Party Character DLC

[Stratos]

I'm just cruelly relishing in the reveal of Issac as an assist trophy. That's just rubbing salt in the wound of Golden Sun fans.

If I had to predict the "Final Five", I think that Waluigi has a good chance of making it in because of the fierce noise fans have been making about him and how Reggie informed us that Sakurai was made aware of the fan demand for him in the game.

For the other's, I would imagine Captain Toad is a strong contender. Geno and Mach Rider also scored high.

If Nintendo does get Microsoft on board, I could see both Minecraft Steve and Banjo-Kazooie making it in.

For me, I personally hope the five are Geno, Waluigi, Cranky Kong, Banjo-Kazooie, and Tingle.

Other practical pick would be Edelgard from the upcoming Switch Fire Emblem (she wields an axe, so hopefully we get a Hector echo blending her and Ike's play style).

In terms of being able to feel "everyone is here" I think Waluigi and Toad/Captain Toad need to be included. This was listed as full new fighters, but no mention of future echo fighters. Captain Toad/Toadette could be a fun Ice Climbers echo fighter.

[Arbok]

Is there any indication that "World of Light” will be co-op? My gf is not competitive, and, oddly, subspace emissary is her fondest memory of the Smash series for the co-op nature.

Kind of hoping that this new mode will be co-op, although haven't seen any mention of it.

As for the remaining 5 DLC characters, the series is pretty stacked as is. Most of the characters I wanted are in now, which is amazing to say. They have done a great job filling the roster. That said, it would be nice if we did see one character to represent Advance Wars. Feels like the last hole. Granted, the series hasn't been around since the DS days, but was pretty popular at one time.

[Adrock]

If were speculating:

1. Elma (Xenoblade Chronicles x)
2. Medusa (Kid Icarus)
3. Siegfried/Nightmare (Soul Calibur)
4. Banjo and Kazooie (Banjo-Kazooie)
5. Travis Touchdown (No More Heroes)

It would be cool if there was a “Fighter Pass 2” in 2020. I wouldn’t bet on it though.

[Mop it up]

No joke, Piranha Plant is the best newcomer for me. I'll leave it up to you to decide if that means I like the plant that much, or am just that uninterested in the rest of the lot. Maybe some of both. But Mario is my fave series and I want to see just about every character in Smash, hee hee. I wonder if any of the DLC characters will be Mario reps, but probably not.

[nickmitch]

Were they clear on whether or not Piranha Plant was one of the 5 DLC characters? Because they described the character as free for a limited time, so part of me assumed it was one of the five that you can get free, but that wouldn't make sense since it would throw the pricing on the pass out of wack.

The playable Pirahna Plant was genius.  I thought Geno would be considered this games WTF character because of how obscure he is but if he does get in he has a pretty normal moveset that would work for a fighting game.  Pirahna Plant on the other hand fits the bill more better since who ever thought he'd make something like that playable?

To be honest, Geno is in such high demand from fans that he couldn't be a WTF character.

[Mop it up]

It looks like Pirahna Plant is not one of the five paid DLC characters in the pass. It also seems to be unclear if it can be purchased later.

[Arbok]

It looks like Pirahna Plant is not one of the five paid DLC characters in the pass. It also seems to be unclear if it can be purchased later.

Mewtwo was "free" to those who got the Wii U and 3DS versions of Smash Bros last generation, but was later sold as DLC. I'm gonna guess that the Pirahna Plant works the same way, and it's free if you pre-order but can be purchased later.

[Soren]

I like Piranha Plant as a playable character. Honestly while there's a lot of fan favorites among the new characters announced there weren't many of the that I actually wanted to play. Having the Inklings, Isabelle and now Piranha Plant means there's something new to really look forward to.

Also it means I have something like 8-10 characters I want to main. I need to make a list.

[Shaymin]

My list of DLC possibilities has Edelgard and a Gen VIII Pokemon written in permanent Sharpie. So that basically leaves three open slots.

[nickmitch]

It looks like Pirahna Plant is not one of the five paid DLC characters in the pass. It also seems to be unclear if it can be purchased later.

So, that's six post-launch characters total? Nice.

I'm still pulling for Travis Touchdown.

[Evan_B]

My list of DLC possibilities has Edelgard and a Gen VIII Pokemon written in permanent Sharpie. So that basically leaves three open slots.

How can you want the two most over-represented series in this game to get more characters?

[Shaymin]

I never said I wanted them - though if we get a Fire Emblem character who's NOT a sword or tome/sword user, that'd be cool.

Nintendo's marketing department and Sakurai will think differently.

[Luigi Dude]

One thing to remember about DLC is Sakurai said Rex from Xenoblade 2 couldn't be playable because they decided the characters before they even knew about that game.  The same with Arms since Spring Man is an Assist Trophy.

Because of this I'll guess these 5 for now as DLC

Elma: I think Elma has a very good chance of being a DLC character.  Does anyone else find it rather strange not a single character from Xenoblade X was an Assist trophy and no Mii customs for any of them either?  I mean with Shulk in the game Xenoblade is a represented franchise and X was the most recent when Sakurai started development on this game.

Geno:  I'm also pretty confidence Geno is getting in still as well.  Other requested fan favorites like Skull Kid and Isaac were shown as Assist Trophies today but Geno is the one highly requested character not to get an Assist Trophy and his Mii custom wasn't shown in the Direct either.

Next Gen Pokemon:  And of course the next Gen VIII Pokemon is almost guaranteed.  That's be the Corrin of this Smash Bros to advertise the newest game.

Those are the 3 characters I'd be willing to bet my house on.  The other 2 though I'm not to sure but I can give some guesses.

Tails:  Now that Shadow has been shown to still be an Assist, that means both Knuckles and Shadow are Assist Trophies.  That's kind of a glaring omission to have those 2 as Assist but not do the same with Sonic's longest partner who's been the second most playable character in that franchise behind Sonic.  The only thing keeping me from being completely confident is I thought Shadow was a lock as an Echo but since that didn't happen I don't know what to guess with this franchise in Smash Bros.  I mean if Tails was a unique character, Shadow still could have been an Echo like Ken.  I wonder if Sakurai doesn't like Shadow or Sega was asking for too much money for a second playable character or a combination of both where Sakurai tried to get Shadow but since Sega was being dicks, didn't care to try harder since he doesn't care for the character.

Waddle Dee:  The Kirby franchises hasn't had a new character since Brawl and Bandanna Dee would be the most requested among that fanbase.  Instead of being limited to a spear moveset which the HAL Kirby games have already done several times, I could see Sakurai just taking Waddle Dee and combining all the different abilities it's had like he's doing with Piranha Plant.  It'll use the spear on some attacks but also have Parasol and Beam for some as well and maybe even summon the mine cart from Kirby 64 has a Side B like Wario.

[Evan_B]

Y’all are so boring. It doesn’t matter anyway, since the roster has already been leaked:

1) Abraham Lincoln
2) Tsubasa Oribe
3) Qbert
4) Wonder Red
5) 900 Koroks

In all seriousness though, saying Rex can’t make it because they had finished planning and then turning around and saying Fire Emblem and Pokemon are getting future reps when they are just as, if not more recent, is silly.

[Luigi Dude]

In all seriousness though, saying Rex can’t make it because they had finished planning and then turning around and saying Fire Emblem and Pokemon are getting future reps when they are just as, if not more recent, is silly.

I didn't say a new Fire Emblem character would get in but Pokemon is kind of a special case.  Since the franchises is so huge Sakurai was given insider info when X/Y was still in development for the last Smash and he picked Greninja because he liked his design and moveset potential the best.  I imagine he probably planned on a new generation coming soon after launch and one of the spot's was for Gen VIII even if they hadn't been revealed yet.  I wouldn't be surprised if the Pokemon rep is the last one released in February 2020 because of this, similar to Corrin last time.

I don't see a new Fire Emblem character for several reasons.  The biggest is when Corrin got in, Awakening had just made the series huge and so Sakurai and Nintendo had a reason to try and make sure the sequel was just as big and Awakening wasn't a fluke.  Now that Fates and Heroes were also a huge success the series doesn't need Smash Bros to help sell it anymore.  Plus Corrin offered a very unique moveset with the dragon abilities which would have made him very tempting for Sakurai even if Fire Emblem was already over represented.  The new main Edelgard doesn't really have a unique gimmick to really justify putting him in over other fan favorites which has kind of been the big selling point of this Smash Bros.

[BranDonk Kong]

They should change the name to:
Super Smash Bros. Ultimate Disappointment with the Last Direct
Honestly that was a bad decision to save for the end. There was no reason to save those 3 for the final reveal...should have saved King K. Cool and/or Ridley for this one.

[pokepal148]

Y’all are so boring. It doesn’t matter anyway, since the roster has already been leaked:

1) Abraham Lincoln from Conduit 2
2) Bubsy
3) Qbert
4) Federation Force Marine
5) 900 Koroks

FTFY

[Order.RSS]

The Direct worked for me, never really believed we'd get 5 more characters so late in development. The World of Light stuff looks super fun to me, I'm not sure I fully understand the Spirits mode but eh we'll see. Piranha Plant is exactly the type of Smash lunacy I want, and seeing characters from Golden Sun, Shantae, Fatal Frame and more show up in Spirits/assist trophy forms is cool too.

Most of all the Direct left me wanting to play Smash immediately, so great marketing imo.

[Stogi]

So Sakurai has now murdered the entire cast but Kirby. I guess I'm okay with that.

[pokepal148]

So Sakurai has now murdered the entire cast but Kirby. I guess I'm okay with that.

This image I posted in the smash memes thread is oddly prophetic.

[Order.RSS]

In the meantime I've picked Smash 4 back up again. Finally had the idea to turn brightness and sharpness all the way down on the TV; the game kept giving me headaches before and I'm still not sure what causes them exactly, but this helps a bit.

Had a lot of fun playing last night. Setting home run records, quickly found online matches, ran through the Classic mode a few times. I still feel in some regards it was a bit of a step back from Brawl, what with the reduced single player, even fewer Break the Targets levels and such. But some of the Event Matches are still pretty creative, and the Crazy Hand Orders mode is also pretty neat.

Depending on how Smash Ultimate turns out, I think Smash 4's biggest contribution to the series (besides the transition to HD and huge roster expansion), might be how it handles risk and reward. The lifted difficulty wager from Kid Icarus Uprising is an obvious one, but the Crazy Hand Orders mode basically dares you to fight another round quickly, receive more damage to boost your HP and then go all-out in the Crazy Hand fight.

It's a bummer the Smash Tour boardgame mode never caught on, because it does similar things. Do you gamble by specialising in certain traits, hoping they pay off in the fights? Do you spread stat boosts across attributes? It's a pretty direct evolution from Kirby Air Ride's city trial mode of course, which also never caught on...

Sorry, just some rambling observations everyone else made 4 years ago. Smash is pretty great!

[pokepal148]

Smash Run was basically pretty much everything that made Smash Tour good wrapped around a good game mode.

[nickmitch]

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[Adrock]

Selection made entirely by Nintendo, hmm?

One of the DLC fighters is Banjo-Kazooie to go along with their inclusion in the Nintendo 64 Classic Edition.

[Luigi Dude]

Well I'm crossing Geno off the list then if it's Nintendo who decided all the DLC choices.  Unless they're planning on announcing a remake of Mario RPG I don't see why they'd care for him.

Elma could still be a possibility since Xenoblade X did end in a cliffhanger so that game might get a sequel someday as well as the original might get a Switch port.

A Gen VIII Pokemon choice is probably guaranteed then to go along with that game.

Kirby has a good chance of getting a pick then.  Nintendo loves to push Kirby so I can see them pushing for another rep.  I know HAL has been pushing Bandanna Dee so him or a Waddle Dee like I predicted earlier could have a good chance then.

Speaking of third party choices, I think Rayman or the Rabbids could have a chance now.  I mean, Nintendo and Ubisoft have been pretty close recently and Ubisoft wanted Rayman in the last Smash Bros.  If Nintendo is the one making the selection, I could see them recommending Rayman on Ubisoft's behalf.