Author Topic: Depressing Movies (Read 18906 times)

Grey Ninja · « **on:** June 01, 2003, 02:53:18 PM »

In case you hadn't noticed by my avatar, I have finally connected with Silent Hill 3. Although I was interested in the game, and was carefully watching it, I just couldn't get hyped about it. The trailers for the game just didn't do anything for me, which was in HUGE contrast to the trailers for Silent Hill 2, which had me hyped like you wouldn't believe.

Anyways, since I have the Silent Hill thing going again, I naturally thought of Jacob's Ladder. Those of you who have played Silent Hill and seen the movie, you will immediately know what I am talking about. (I hope). Suffice to say that it's just as much a part of Silent Hill as Escape From New York is to Metal Gear Solid.

But I have already seen Jacob's Ladder, and I can't find the DVD anywhere. (I can't afford it right now anyways, but that's beside the point). What I was wondering is if there are any further movies that I can watch that are related in "feel" to Silent Hill or Jacob's Ladder? I have a free rental from a local video store, and I was planning on using it on the new James Bond movie which I still haven't seen, but I suppose I could make an exception for a good movie of this style.

I heard the title... "Session 9" When I was looking at the Jacob's Ladder DVD on Amazon, and was wondering if anyone here had seen it. Is it any good? Is it like Silent Hill?

NintendoKiD · « **Reply #1 on:** June 03, 2003, 10:32:08 PM »

your G/-\y

PIAC · « **Reply #2 on:** June 04, 2003, 12:26:44 AM »

oww toys out the pram nintendokid, dont be jealous of my room ;P

what is silent hill? ive never heard of the game before going on these forums...

oohhboy · « **Reply #3 on:** June 04, 2003, 02:13:38 AM »

It is a fog ladened horror game made by Konami back on the PSX(Haha I will not be brain washed!). It simulated your other senses more by having a radio that acts as monster meter, sort of like Aliens motion detector in function, but audio only.

Grey Ninja · « **Reply #4 on:** June 04, 2003, 12:46:08 PM »

PIAC, Silent Hill is a PSX/PS2 franchise that I am actually quite fond of.

The first game started out with you in the car with your daughter. You see a girl standing in the road, and you swerve to avoid her, and your car crashes. When you wake up, your daughter is gone, and you are in a tourist resort known as Silent Hill. The town is strange. It's snowing and foggy in the middle of the summer, and things just aren't as they should be. If you play the game, it really starts to get weirder yet.

The second game starts out with a man who has recieved a letter from his wife who was dead for 3 years. It was postmarked from the last week, and it said that she was "waiting for him" in Silent Hill, where they had some good times together years before when she was still well. James drives into town seeking his dead wife when the game begins.

The gameplay is fairly standard fare, much like Resident Evil, but a million times easier. But you have a radio that really creeps you out by emmitting static whenever a monster is nearby. The music is largely industrial flavored, but really serves its job well by providing a great amount of atmosphere to the game. Couple this with an insanely low draw distance that's hidden by a LOT of fog, or by pitch black darkness, and you have a claustrophobic game that will scare the pants off of you.

What REALLY gets a person about these games though, is the story. The story is too high level for a lot of gamers, and many people just don't get the true genius of it... I know I sound like a crackhead right now, but it's true. Resident Evil features a very linear storyline. The games may not tell you all the details, but at the end of the game, you feel like you have a good idea of what went on in the game. Silent Hill doesn't leave you like that. People can discuss the plot, and write their guides all they want, but I feel that the story isn't truly SUPPOSED to be known to the player. It's more of a case of where you can make up your own mind what the whole thing meant at the end of the game.

Suffice to say, the endings of both games will haunt you forever.

PIAC · « **Reply #5 on:** June 04, 2003, 05:54:07 PM »

ahhhh okay, not surpriseing i haven't heard much about it, given its a PSX/2 franchise, and its a horror game, and i dont play either of those things

Termin8Anakin · « **Reply #6 on:** June 04, 2003, 06:04:01 PM »

Well, even if it was a PS2/X/One game, even I've heard of it. Surely your PS2 biased fanboy 'friends' have been rambling on about it at least.

PIAC · « **Reply #7 on:** June 04, 2003, 11:07:13 PM »

nah my psx/ps2 friends (dont have many, most of my friends arn't into gameing themselfs but are happy to play my consoles etc) were mostly into raceing games

Grey Ninja · « **Reply #8 on:** June 06, 2003, 10:31:49 PM »

Yeah, well it's a PS2/PC franchise now.

I only have to wait 2 more months for the PC version of Silent Hill 3.

Those damned Europeans already got it for their PS2, but those North American idiots still have to wait along with me. hehe.

BrianSLA · « **Reply #9 on:** June 17, 2003, 11:42:31 PM »

Session 9 is ok. It isn't fantastic BUT I didn't think Jacob's Ladder was either........ so you might disagree with me. As for Session 9 / Silent Hill........umm I can kinda see it a bit. It is moody and there is that tinge of insanity and dark fuzzy faceless terror feelings at some points. As a horror movie.... it is just ok though. As a horror movie junkie....... I do seem to recall some movies with fuzzy faceless terrors but I can't seem to recall a specific one right now. Evil Dead ( the original ) is a foggy outdoor faceless horror / gory flick which is a great scary movie. Directed by Sam Raimi. Stephen King said it scared him.

Grey Ninja · « **Reply #10 on:** June 18, 2003, 12:08:42 AM »

Cool.

Thanks for the tip. I will have to check out both those movies then.

(I can somehow never figure out NintendoKid. Is he just a troll, or does he actually have something useful to say?)

Grey Ninja · « **Reply #11 on:** July 25, 2003, 02:23:23 PM »

I never did rent Session 9 or Evil Dead... but I did finally rent the Jacob's Ladder DVD again.

Man, does that movie ever kick ass. I am much too drunk to say much more about it right now, but I love that movie.

mouse_clicker · « **Reply #12 on:** July 25, 2003, 02:37:17 PM »

Hehe- I never really heard of anyone scared by Evil Dead- they always told me it was unintentionally funny because it was so cheap. At least Army of the Dead was.

Anyway, if you want a truly scary film I suggest The Haunting- not the recent remake, the original from the 50's. That movie really creeped me out.

Grey Ninja · « **Reply #13 on:** July 25, 2003, 02:44:12 PM »

I saw a couple of clips from the original Haunting.

I must confess that I am a HUGE Star Wars fan (To the point that I don't know whether I am more Star Wars fanboy or Nintendo fanboy, and I have a tattoo of Nintendo's logo on my arm), but I saw The Haunting just because it had my favorite Jedi Knight in a starring role. I loved the movie because of its artistic presentation though. I don't think I would love the original version as much though.

I also saw Eye of the Beholder because of my Star Wars obsession... I must say that the movie really struck a chord with me. I know that most people hate it, but I beg of you to watch it sometime with an open mind. The main character of that movie is me. He embodies pretty much everything about me. He's clinically insane, but he's still me. I too fell in love with a girl I couldn't have.

mouse_clicker · « **Reply #14 on:** July 25, 2003, 02:53:46 PM »

I'm just as big a Star Wars fan as you are, if not bigger, and believe me, the original Haunting is a LOT better than the remake. The 1999 version shows too much in an effort to please audiences while the original scares you more with what you don't see. You know the old saying that sometimes the anticipation is better than the actual thing. Do yourself a favor and see the 1963 version of The Haunting- it's much scarier, much creepier than anything you'll see today. I saw it after the remake myself, and even *I* can admit the original is so much better. Don't let Liam Neeson stop you from experiencing a great horror movie.

mouse_clicker · « **Reply #15 on:** July 26, 2003, 12:00:08 PM »

Oh yeah, if you're looking for a good psychological movie, I strongly suggest you wacth Donnie Darko- it's one of my favorite movies ever. It kind of has some science fiction spots here and there, but it's mainly about one kid's detoriation of sanity. Magnificent movie.

Grey Ninja · « **Reply #16 on:** July 26, 2003, 12:11:24 PM »

I keep on meaning to watch that at some point. If by some miracle I can pull myself out of bed before 11PM tonight, I will go to the video store and rent it.

Thanks for the tip though.

mouse_clicker · « **Reply #17 on:** July 26, 2003, 12:13:45 PM »

Watch it a couple times, too- it's too complicated to understand in one sitting.

Grey Ninja · « **Reply #18 on:** August 08, 2003, 09:45:57 PM »

I just finished watching it. Believe it or not, it took me this long to find a copy. You are right. It's fantastic. I think I got the gist of it, but my understanding of it isn't perfectly clear. I feel that I am missing something seriously big. But I found that regardless of what was going on, the movie wasn't faked. It was overly dramatized, but underneath was a clear understanding of what was going on inside Donnie's head.

One of my old roommates was a neuroscience major. She was really smart, and she definately knew her material. She got her Bachelor's degree in Neuroscience a couple of months ago. I was always careful to hide my true thoughts around her, as people who deal with the mind for a living seriously make me nervous.

She said that I had the classic symptoms of schizophrenia on a couple of occasions though. After watching that movie, I really have to agree.

The Omen · « **Reply #19 on:** August 09, 2003, 12:38:59 PM »

Don't worry Ninja, schizophrenia is fun! Im going to get Donnie Darko tonight. I just watched Jacobs Ladder last night at 3 AM. It was intense. Of all the movies i've seen in my long , boring life, including film school, how could i have missed it?

I'm assuming you've seen A Clockwork Orange. Its old but has just as much psychotic imagery as JL. Taxi Driver...theres plenty of movies about the character losing his grip. Not all go as far as others, however.

Caliban · « **Reply #20 on:** August 09, 2003, 01:46:50 PM »

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rpglover · « **Reply #21 on:** August 11, 2003, 01:35:46 PM »

"I'm assuming you've seen A Clockwork Orange. Its old but has just as much psychotic imagery as JL"

yeah that movie is pretty odd- yet one of my favorites ever
that movie to me is the one i always talk of when stanley kubric is mentioned (along with Dr. Strangelove- a great flick)
Clockwork Orange was very deep if you payed attention to everything going on- i love the book as well
i highly suggest both- they are great finds

The Omen · « **Reply #22 on:** August 11, 2003, 08:22:48 PM »

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yeah that movie is pretty odd- yet one of my favorites ever
that movie to me is the one i always talk of when stanley kubric is mentioned (along with Dr. Strangelove- a great flick)
Clockwork Orange was very deep if you payed attention to everything going on- i love the book as well
i highly suggest both- they are great finds

Agree. And The Shining. The camera work is incredible...along with Jack , of course.

Hostile Creation · « **Reply #23 on:** August 11, 2003, 08:33:23 PM »

I must make a note of all of these. Truly scary movies are few and far between, and I've been trying to find some. Hope to make some, someday

rpglover · « **Reply #24 on:** August 12, 2003, 01:58:13 AM »

"Agree. And The Shining. The camera work is incredible...along with Jack , of course"

another kubrick film- and a great one!
that was one of the only movies that actually freaked me out and actually scared me when i saw it
even to this day when i see it i still get chills- especially the ax part and the blood rushing through the hotel
the acting from jack was great, but shelly duval was excellent as the mother and the child was good as well- redrum......
for a movie that basically only focused on 3 characters- it was a masterpiece

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Author Topic: Depressing Movies (Read 18906 times)