Topic: Eternal Darkness 2

[Pixelated Pixies]

I'd kill for an Eternal Darkness 2. Kill all my servants and get committed to an insane asylum that is.

[toddra]

I never cared for RARE period to be honest. They had one game I liked, that was it.

That doesn't change the fact that they were highly successful with Nintendo and since being bought by Microsoft, they have become a shell of what they were.

So what I just was saying how I felt about it, not using that as any basis for any argument just stating my own personal opinion, which I am sure I am allowed to do.

[Adrock]

I'd kill for an Eternal Darkness 2. Kill all my servants and get committed to an insane asylum that is.

Wow, what an asshole thing to do. May the rats eat your eyes.

[Pixelated Pixies]

May the rats eat your eyes.

You have bested me sir. I had to Google that as I wasn't sure if you were making an Eternal Darkness reference.

[Louieturkey]

I never cared for RARE period to be honest. They had one game I liked, that was it.

That doesn't change the fact that they were highly successful with Nintendo and since being bought by Microsoft, they have become a shell of what they were.

So what I just was saying how I felt about it, not using that as any basis for any argument just stating my own personal opinion, which I am sure I am allowed to do.

Never said you couldn't have your own opinion.

[S-U-P-E-R]

 http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2012-11-09-silicon-knights-has-a-month-to-recall-and-destroy-all-unsold-copies-of-too-human-x-men-destiny-more

welp, sounds like SK is done

[oohhboy]

That is some serious overkill on the part of the courts.

[MrPhishfood]

Ouch. Like a football to the groin.

But why do they have to destroy all the assets? Didn't they legally have the right to use the engine at the time those games were developed.

[KDR_11k]

They claimed they developed their own engine while the court found them in violation of the Unreal Engine license. I suspect that means their "new" engine was built by stealing parts from Unreal. That would make all SK games using that engine copyright infringing, the usual recourse for that kind of stuff is destroying all offending material.

[Kytim89]

Is it safe to assume that SK is finished as a company?

[BlackNMild2k1]

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2012-11-09-silicon-knights-has-a-month-to-recall-and-destroy-all-unsold-copies-of-too-human-x-men-destiny-more

welp, sounds like SK is done

Wow, talk about a backfire.

Dyack must be too embarrassed to ever show his face again.
I wonder what Nintendo is going to do with it's "silent shares" in SK

[Shaymin]

I don't know, but I can guess the follow-up will involve a long run to the 7-11 near NOA HQ.

[S-U-P-E-R]

"May the rats eat your eyes!" - denis dyack, from his new job at the gas station

[KDR_11k]

Is it safe to assume that SK is finished as a company?

I think they were effectively dead for a while now, supposedly they're down to a staff of five (including Dyack and his wife, you may be able to operate an indie dev with five people but from the sounds of it all of the remaining guys are just management which you don't need for an indie like this), the company is just an empty shell now.

[Adrock]

They really don't have any assets either. Nintendo owns the Eternal Darkness IP and no one cares about Too Human. They don't own Legacy of Kain and Raziel which was created by SK went to Eidos as well. Dyack could effectively "start over" and work on some smaller games to bolster the company's worth that relied so heavily on the coattails of Eternal Darkness for the last decade. Judging by reports of Dyack's ego, that doesn't seem terribly likely.

Silicon Knights had a lot of vision, but lacked discipline. Dyack only wanted to make his own games which is understandable, but dangerous when left unchecked. They would be better served operating like WayForward Technologies, who are super-passionate about their own IPs, but still take their licensed "grunt work" very seriously. Not all of them turn out like Contra 4 because WayForward Technologies is filled with raw talent that, like Silicon Knights, could use the guidance of a larger, influential company like Nintendo. However, their games also never turn out like X-Men Destiny. Even if WayForward Technologies wasn't especially thrilled about the license, they would still turn out a competent game. It's give and take; Dyack only wanted to take. It's a weird sense of entitlement because he worked with Miyamoto and Kojima.

[S-U-P-E-R]

including Dyack and his wife

I heard he even fired his wife~

[KDR_11k]

Vision is one thing, any fool can have ideas, the smart man is the one who can tell good ideas from bad ones. I'm not convinced that Dyack has actual talent, he may just have gotten lucky (or well controlled) that he didn't stick any major idiocy into ED. Sure it's ambition to want to make a trilogy but it's also stupid to make the first game inadequately short. It's stupid to go for a super ambitious project without the necessary resources.