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Re: Sony's Smash Brothers clone? Title Fight?
« Reply #100 on: December 01, 2011, 09:47:37 PM »
i liked melee because it was fast, and thats where things went crazy. My friend has a slight cognitive advantage over other people, he has tremendous relfexes, and its something that should be tested, i think he has straight up snake vision.
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Re: Sony's Smash Brothers clone? Title Fight?
« Reply #101 on: December 02, 2011, 01:56:52 AM »
Are you sure he isn't reading you like a book? hehe.

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Re: Sony's Smash Brothers clone? Title Fight?
« Reply #102 on: December 02, 2011, 07:10:30 PM »
I loved melee mostly for the dodge maneuver.

It didn't occur to me how much I loved it till I dodged a smash and a super shot by Samus at the same time. Awesome.
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Re: Sony's Smash Brothers clone? Title Fight?
« Reply #103 on: December 03, 2011, 01:25:56 AM »
Are you sure he isn't reading you like a book? hehe.

no, it took me a lot of effort to get to where he was and beat him, I couldn't maintain that mental sharpness. I would have to do cocaine or something.
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Re: Sony's Smash Brothers clone? Title Fight?
« Reply #104 on: December 03, 2011, 05:06:13 AM »
That sounds like the worst excuse to do blow.
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Re: Sony's Smash Brothers clone? Title Fight?
« Reply #105 on: December 03, 2011, 05:20:20 AM »
that would be an interesting psa

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Re: Sony's Smash Brothers clone? Title Fight?
« Reply #106 on: December 03, 2011, 03:52:49 PM »
LOL


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Re: Sony's Smash Brothers clone? Title Fight?
« Reply #108 on: April 27, 2012, 06:30:53 AM »
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Re: Sony's Smash Brothers clone? Title Fight?
« Reply #109 on: April 27, 2012, 07:47:08 AM »
and it's being developed by SuperBot Entertainment (never heard of them either).
Of course not. Did you even watch the trailer? The first thing the game director, Omar Kendall, says is that Superbot Entertainment was created specifically to make this game. More importantly, does it even matter that they're new? A bunch of nobodies in Texas resurrected Metroid 10 years ago...

Anyway, this is about what I expected when news of the game first leaked though the gameplay seems to point more towards decreasing life bars rather than increasing damage to throw an enemy off the stage. This game seems to have less platforming than Smash Bros. Honestly, I think that's what makes Smash Bros. more interesting. It's not a straight fighting game. I'll wait fore more info but with RE6 and Wii U coming out at the end of this year, I probably won't get this on release day.

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Re: Sony's Smash Brothers clone? Title Fight?
« Reply #110 on: April 27, 2012, 07:49:07 AM »

Of course not. Did you even watch the trailer? The first thing the game director, Omar Kendall, says is that Superbot Entertainment was created specifically to make this game.


So that makes SuperBot a first-party Sony-owned developer?
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Re: Sony's Smash Brothers clone? Title Fight?
« Reply #111 on: April 27, 2012, 07:56:16 AM »
Possibly. Superbot Entertainment is likely 1st or 2nd party. For comparison's sake, Retro Studios wasn't wholly owned by Nintendo until they bought Jeff Spangenberg's stock in the company.

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Re: Sony's Smash Brothers clone? Title Fight?
« Reply #112 on: April 27, 2012, 07:56:43 AM »
Some games Omar Kendall has worked on:
UFC Undisputed
Backyard Wrestling
X-Men Next Dimension
Mortal Kombat Shaolin Monks
 
edit: but who is the combat designer? That's the important part!
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Re: Sony's Smash Brothers clone? Title Fight?
« Reply #113 on: April 27, 2012, 08:19:48 AM »
Some games Omar Kendall has worked on:
UFC Undisputed
Backyard Wrestling
X-Men Next Dimension
Mortal Kombat Shaolin Monks
 
edit: but who is the combat designer? That's the important part!


Heh, what a poor track record.
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Re: Sony's Smash Brothers clone? Title Fight?
« Reply #114 on: April 27, 2012, 08:20:12 AM »
Possibly. Superbot Entertainment is likely 1st or 2nd party. For comparison's sake, Retro Studios wasn't wholly owned by Nintendo until they bought Jeff Spangenberg's stock in the company.


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Re: Sony's Smash Brothers clone? Title Fight?
« Reply #115 on: April 27, 2012, 08:43:54 AM »

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Re: Sony's Smash Brothers clone? Title Fight?
« Reply #116 on: April 27, 2012, 09:31:22 AM »
Actually, guys... those aren't even life bars. I hate the direction I'm seeing this game go in, as it's not going to be anywhere near as hot as Smash Bros. is. You don't build up damage on your opponent. Instead, you attack to build up a "special/finisher" meter. And once you build it up to a certain level (1, 2, or 3), you can unleash an attack to obliterate your opponent. This is more of a race to "grab a Smash Ball" than it is being skillful by dishing out damage to ultimately land a Smash attack to knock your opponent out to kingdom come.

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Re: Sony's Smash Brothers clone? Title Fight?
« Reply #117 on: April 27, 2012, 10:05:18 AM »
I don't know. There's quite a bit of strategy involved in building up a meter to unleash different levels of attack.

I'm willing to give the game a chance because I like Sony's characters and I like Smash Bros. However, I would have preferred Sony not play it so close to Smash Bros. which already has a few copy cats. What Sony should have done is create a game very different from Smash Bros. to not only justify its existence but give it greater appeal. I have Smash Bros., do I really need another game like it? I'll stick with the original. And if Sony insisted on basing Playstation All-Stars Battle Royale on another videogame, using Power Stone, rather than Smash Bros., as the basis would have made the game stand out more. Capcom hasn't released a brand new game in the series since Power Stone 2 in 2000. There aren't a lot of games like it.

On a side note, a commenter on Kotaku suggested that the final boss be a Giant Enemy Crab and should Sony/Superbot Entertainment comply, I'd be far more interested in this game.

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Re: Sony's Smash Brothers clone? Title Fight?
« Reply #118 on: April 27, 2012, 10:45:32 AM »
Did Thrill Kill/Wu Tang on PS1 have a similar KO condition or did it just have life bars? I forget...
 
Visually, yeah, it looks a lot like Smash, but it seems there's no ring-outs. That's already a bit different gameplay-wise.
 
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I'm kind of thinking... are they trying to make a KO system that prevents people from ganging up (in ffa) or playing kingmaker? Can that be viable?
 

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Re: Sony's Smash Brothers clone? Title Fight?
« Reply #119 on: April 27, 2012, 01:12:28 PM »
Having watched the video reveal, I'm conflicted about this game.  On the one hand, Sony does have some cool characters (like Sly, my favorite of theirs and he's already confirmed as a playable character) and I could enjoy a different company's take on the Smash Bros. formula.  I like that the 6 characters revealed so far apparently play very differently from one another.  On the other hand, just looking at the footage I'm not sure that Sony "gets" why Smash Bros. is great, and the level design looks pretty poor; relatively flat; and small.  It's like Sony is trying to cater to the tourney losers who demand that they rain over everyone else's fun with "No Items, Final Destination."

I'll remain cautiously optimistic about this game, but companies have tried cloning Smash Bros. before and no one's succeeded yet.
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Re: Sony's Smash Brothers clone? Title Fight?
« Reply #120 on: April 27, 2012, 02:03:17 PM »
Sega's characters would make for a much better game.
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Re: Sony's Smash Brothers clone? Title Fight?
« Reply #121 on: April 27, 2012, 04:07:45 PM »
So there are no ring-outs in this game? So the whole point is to build up a "super meter" and then unleash a KO-ing attack? Sounds like Smash Bros. to me ("super meter" = damage percentage).


I just want them to change that terrible name and logo. "PS AS BR" is too long and convoluted. And the logo looks even more generic than Sports Champions. Sheesh, Sony, get a better logo designer or something.
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Re: Sony's Smash Brothers clone? Title Fight?
« Reply #122 on: April 27, 2012, 05:00:06 PM »
A major part of Smash Bros. is the possibility to back onto the stage when knocked out. If that aspect is not included Playstation All-Stars Battle Royale, that changes the dynamic of the game.

And I presume most people will shorten the name to Battle Royale or BR. Even Nintendo fans can't be bother to say Super Smash Bros. Melee/Brawl , it's shortened to Melee, Brawl, Smash Bros. or even just Smash.

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Re: Sony's Smash Brothers clone? Title Fight?
« Reply #123 on: April 27, 2012, 06:41:34 PM »
Sometimes I even just say 'Sm.'
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Re: Sony's Smash Brothers clone? Title Fight?
« Reply #124 on: April 27, 2012, 06:43:19 PM »
The title of this thread should be changed now that we know the true name of Sony's Smash Bros. clone.
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