Topic: 'Not One Penny for DLC, DD, HDD, or HD' oath thread

[King of Twitch]

I swear on the grave of the DD64, I will not contribute one red cent to the destruction of gaming.

And if it appears to become widespread in the next few years, I will not purchase a next gen console.

signed...

-Zap

[GoldenPhoenix]

Not signed. ::buys some stuff off of steam::

[UncleBob]

Do ill-gotten Wii Points from Pepsi caps count?

[S-U-P-E-R]

I'm a-okay with DLC as long as it was created after the game was actually finished and is a worthwhile effort. Fake DLC that's already on the disc is bullshit

DD, HDD, HD

what

[Plugabugz]

I'm a-okay with DLC as long as it was created after the game was actually finished and is a worthwhile effort. Fake DLC that's already on the disc is bullshit

DD, HDD, HD

what

Same. Burnout Paradise released the Big Surf Island pack in June but and everyone had a system update (which included it).  You had to pay to get the keycode to unlock it. This i'm fine with. I bought it last night.

[nickmitch]

I'm with Ty.

[Mop it up]

The day the game industry switches to digital distribution is the day I quit gaming.

[NWR_DrewMG]

Man, the future sure is scary.

[BeautifulShy]

The day the game industry switches to digital distribution is the day I quit gaming.

Same.

[RABicle]

I'm a-okay with DLC as long as it was created after the game was actually finished and is a worthwhile effort. Fake DLC that's already on the disc is bullshit

DD, HDD, HD

what

Not to mention it effectively doubled the size of the game.

Same. Burnout Paradise released the Big Surf Island pack in June but and everyone had a system update (which included it).  You had to pay to get the keycode to unlock it. This i'm fine with. I bought it last night.

[EasyCure]

The day the game industry switches to digital distribution is the day I quit gaming.

Same.

ditto

[NWR_DrewMG]

Digital distribution has arguably been a boon for the music industry.  Why are you so down on it for gaming?

Also, I realize this is the Funhouse, so it's possible you are all just lying.

[vudu]

The day the game industry switches to digital distribution is the day I quit gaming.

Same.

ditto

I'll still buy games.  Why do you care how you get your game as long as you can still play it?

[NWR_DrewMG]

I can appreciate that there are some DRM issues at play, and losing resale value is a concern for me too, but other than that, I am all on board with digital distribution.

[BlackNMild2k1]

Digital distribution has arguably been a boon for the music industry.  Why are you so down on it for gaming?

Also, I realize this is the Funhouse, so it's possible you are all just lying.

Atleast with music I can burn it to a CD and play it in my CD player. any of them. I can even make a mixtape for a friend since I now own the music and can make physical copied of it that I can use anywhere.

Not quite the same with gaming. And as soon as bandwidth allows, I'm sure server based gaming is what we will get instead of DD or physical disk. You will probably log on and see the games that you have bought, pick one, and it streams the game to you hardware and loads your saves and settings. This is how the gaming industry is likely to kill the used game market and the whole "you buy a license to play the game, not own it" debate.

[EasyCure]

Digital distribution has arguably been a boon for the music industry.  Why are you so down on it for gaming?

Also, I realize this is the Funhouse, so it's possible you are all just lying.

The day the game industry switches to digital distribution is the day I quit gaming.

Same.

ditto

I'll still buy games.  Why do you care how you get your game as long as you can still play it?

^To the both of you:

Because music companies have never (at least publicly) thrown out ideas of selling songs/albums in parts.

"Hey man, did you hear the new _____ song?"
"Ya, but I didn't get the solo yet. The first 2 minutes are epic then it starts to build up... can't wait to buy the rest next pay check"

If you think horse armour type dlc is bad now, imagine what greedy publishers will make devs do if/when games are distributed digitally only* Thats why I'm with that particular bandwagon.

*i don't mind a mix of the two, but digital distrubution only can be a scary road..

[vudu]

If you don't want to buy horse armor don't buy it.  If publishers start releasing games piece-meal either wait until they put out the whole thing before downloading anything or skip it completely.  If games people are making these days don't appeal to you stop playing them.  But to give up gaming simply because of a change in media is stupid.

[NWR_DrewMG]

Because music companies have never (at least publicly) thrown out ideas of selling songs/albums in parts.

Isn't iTunes pretty much founded on the ala carte model?  .99 per song, buy the album if you want.

[NinGurl69 *huggles]

Apple is not a music company.  Tho people might think that way now!

[EasyCure]

Because music companies have never (at least publicly) thrown out ideas of selling songs/albums in parts.

A 2-5 minute song off an album is one thing, downloading a partial game and being forced to pay for the ending is another. Obviously the type of DLC we have no is nowhere near as bad as these examples but the thought that anyone in the industry is even entertaining these thoughts (as a means to keep from losing revenue on used game sales; ie gamestop) is scary ****.



Isn't iTunes pretty much founded on the ala carte model?  .99 per song, buy the album if you want.

If you don't want to buy horse armor don't buy it.  If publishers start releasing games piece-meal either wait until they put out the whole thing before downloading anything or skip it completely.  If games people are making these days don't appeal to you stop playing them.  But to give up gaming simply because of a change in media is stupid.

I know what you're saying and I agree with you, I'd only give up gaming to a small extent:

No new games/consoles would be purchased if publishers did digital distribution only*, But I'd NEVER stop playing the games in my collection as long as i still could. I still have my NES, SNES, N64, and GC all in working condition, and I plan to keep playing them later down the road.

*again, that's only assuming digital distribution took a turn for the worst. I don't want to sound all paranoid and rant about it like Ian, but its a legitimate concern of mine on the future of gaming.

[NWR_DrewMG]

Okay, I'll rephrase - pretty much every single place you can buy music works on an ala carte model, and they wouldn't operate that way if the "music companies" objected to it. 

I realize that there have been some bad examples of greedy publishers asking for you to buy DLC that clearly would have been a part of the game to begin with, but I'm not even talking about DLC - I'm talking about buying full games digitally.  DLC is a different conversation. 

Wait a minute.... this conversation is far too serious for the fun house.

[EasyCure]

Wait a minute.... this conversation is far too serious for the fun house.

Agreed. I'd spit on this thread but my buttered camel could do a better job, so i'll wait for him to wake up.

[Mop it up]

Sometimes it seems like digital distribution is meant to take the rights away from consumers. Nintendo's model is the worst. You don't own the games, you're just paying for a license to play them for an indeterminate period of time. They're all a fixed price, never any sales or price drops. You can't sell or give them away if you get a bad game. They're tied to the system you download them too, rather than to an online account.

If I'm paying for something I want to own it. I want to hold it in my hands and display it on my shelf. Should I decide I don't want it anymore, I want the option to sell it, too.

If a new generation of systems switches to digital-only then I won't be a part of that. Instead, I'll just continue to buy games for the systems I already own. As it is, there are hundreds of games out there on my list, so I'll have plenty to choose from.

[BlackNMild2k1]

If a new generation of systems switches to digital-only then I won't be a part of that. Instead, I'll just continue to buy games for the systems I already own. As it is, there are hundreds of games out there on my list, so I'll have plenty to choose from.

Just make sure you buy them used

::cue Jaffe outrage::

[vudu]

Sometimes it seems like digital distribution is meant to take the rights away from consumers. Nintendo's model is the worst. You don't own the games, you're just paying for a license to play them for an indeterminate period of time. They're all a fixed price, never any sales or price drops. You can't sell or give them away if you get a bad game. They're tied to the system you download them too, rather than to an online account.

If I'm paying for something I want to own it. I want to hold it in my hands and display it on my shelf. Should I decide I don't want it anymore, I want the option to sell it, too.

While this is true, it doesn't seem like that big of a deal if it only costs you $5 to $10 for the game.  If you get a stinker, who cares?  If you buy a new game for $50 and decide you don't like it you can probably sell it for $40 on eBay, but you're still out $10.

If in 5 years you decide you want to play a game again but it's somehow disappeared from your service, who cares?  It cost $5 to $10.  Buy another freaking copy.

You're too concerned about when you "own".  The things you own end up owning you.   I buy games to experience them, not to own them.