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RE: Metroid Prime 3 Coming to a TV Near You
« Reply #25 on: August 24, 2007, 01:06:23 PM »
Haha, that's the thing that makes this ad "good." It's a great big lie. They're putting Metroid in the same wii wacky fun space that they used to advertise so many games before, so gamers who don't know Metroid won't be intimidated by its isolation and cerebral...ness... and instead just say "wow, that looks 'fun' and maybe it's worth remembering" just like they did with some of the other Wii games advertised this way before.

Seriously, how do you advertise isolationism?  
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« Reply #26 on: August 24, 2007, 01:09:02 PM »
It's the music they use for all those commercials, why would metroid be any different?

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« Reply #27 on: August 24, 2007, 01:10:42 PM »
Nintendo's trying to sell metroid to people who wouldn't normally buy Metroid. That's a good thing, right?
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« Reply #28 on: August 24, 2007, 01:20:57 PM »
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Nintendo's trying to sell metroid to people who wouldn't normally buy Metroid. That's a good thing, right?


It makes sense (and yes it is a good thing). Metroid fans are going to buy prime 3, that's just a given. So I am all for commercials that show joe-every-gamer play the game having fun.

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« Reply #29 on: August 24, 2007, 01:21:57 PM »
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Seriously, how do you advertise isolationism?


Well, there would be many ways. You could use the standard "Alone behind enemy lines" line, or show the character alone surrounded by baddies, then opening up a can of whoopass.

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It makes sense (and yes it is a good thing). Metroid fans are going to buy prime 3, that's just a given. So I am all for commercials that show joe-every-gamer play the game having fun.


I gotta say you have a point there.
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« Reply #30 on: August 24, 2007, 01:36:21 PM »
I've said it today to my friend and I will say it to you all, MP3 will sell at least 1 million copies.  

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« Reply #31 on: August 24, 2007, 01:47:23 PM »
That businessman guy near the beginning has such a frightening expression, it defies words.
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« Reply #32 on: August 24, 2007, 01:52:45 PM »
I agree Caliban, at least. I'm thinking 1.5 million copies at least TBH.

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« Reply #33 on: August 24, 2007, 06:02:57 PM »
If it can sell 1.5 million copies worldwide that'd put it better than Metroid Prime 2 I think... I'm really hoping it climbs above 2 million though, that'd place it closer to the original Prime.
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« Reply #34 on: August 24, 2007, 11:03:40 PM »
Metroid Prime 2's worldwide total was 1.2 million copies, so yes, Prime 3 should be able to easily sell over 1 million copies as well.  With the Wii being WAY more popular now then the Gamecube was back in 2004, I don't see any reason why Prime 3 would do worse.
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« Reply #35 on: August 25, 2007, 08:11:49 AM »
I hate this ads and I can't wait for when they go away.

If I wasn't a metroid nut this commercial wouldn't make me buy it. It makes it look like another generic FPS with some g!mmicks here and there...

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And yes you can do an ad advertising isolationism, its just perfect, it shows you this is a game more about finding things than shooting things.

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« Reply #36 on: August 25, 2007, 08:24:45 AM »
Honestly with the Wii being perpetually sold out, I thought the Metroid Prime Preview Channel was a brilliant move. You're not going to sell any more consoles, but with that big blue light, you can get everyone that has a Wii online to take notice.
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« Reply #37 on: August 25, 2007, 09:50:38 AM »
*shrug* I guess I'm in the minority at thinking that the first Prime commercial looked like a cheap art film.

Anyways, this relatively late revealing of the commercial for Prime is quite indicative of Nintendo's marketting thoughts. As NWR pointed out, Nintendo is perfectly willing to advertise a game long after it has released, months after even. This may be fine in the view of Metroid Prime having all Holiday season to sell, and the Wii's more casual and less day-one demographics, especially seeing as how many recent Nintendo hits have had "legs"... or maybe some games are just frontloaded in sales and can't be sold over an extended period of time to a larger audience, and Metroid is one of them.
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« Reply #38 on: August 25, 2007, 09:54:51 AM »
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If I wasn't a metroid nut this commercial wouldn't make me buy it.


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And yes you can do an ad advertising isolationism, its just perfect, it shows you this is a game more about finding things than shooting things.


I've said it before and I'll say it again:

METROID FANS WILL BUY METROID PRIME 3. We don't need more commercials playing to the audience that will ALREADY be buying the game.

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« Reply #39 on: August 25, 2007, 10:26:12 AM »
Be careful there, soon they'll start making games for people who don't already play games. OH WAIT A SECOND!!!!
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« Reply #41 on: August 25, 2007, 02:06:08 PM »
Above all, this is really a commercial for the Wii. Just using Metroid as the specific game this time around.
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« Reply #42 on: August 25, 2007, 04:01:45 PM »
It's a commercial for airports.
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« Reply #43 on: August 25, 2007, 05:29:41 PM »
You know, that MSCF commercial is actually really fun to watch.  It's makes you want to play it.

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« Reply #44 on: August 25, 2007, 07:58:19 PM »
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If I wasn't a metroid nut this commercial wouldn't make me buy it.


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And yes you can do an ad advertising isolationism, its just perfect, it shows you this is a game more about finding things than shooting things.


I've said it before and I'll say it again:

METROID FANS WILL BUY METROID PRIME 3. We don't need more commercials playing to the audience that will ALREADY be buying the game.



And you think this commercial did it? it shows another boring FPS, probably the most hated genre among the "non-gaming" crowd. The first Prime commercial was aimed at everyone who would like a Metroid game, not just the previous fans, and specially NOT FPS fans, it showed really little action.

I initially hoped there would be lots of people ignorant enough to get the game thinking is another FPS with some g!mmicks, and thats probably what happened with the first prime, but thats only a short term benefit, these are the same kind of idiots that started the metroid/halo retarded comparison in the first place, who were expecting metroid to be like those games and who ended up being dissapointed and whiny about it, making terribly publicity and really bad word-of-mouth for the whole series in general, "too much keys", "its too hard", "it has too much backtracking" basically "it made me think and I hate that", stupid people.

This only hurts the future of metroid games more and more, this is the reason we got a game like hunters.


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« Reply #45 on: August 25, 2007, 08:07:53 PM »
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If I wasn't a metroid nut this commercial wouldn't make me buy it.


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And yes you can do an ad advertising isolationism, its just perfect, it shows you this is a game more about finding things than shooting things.


I've said it before and I'll say it again:

METROID FANS WILL BUY METROID PRIME 3. We don't need more commercials playing to the audience that will ALREADY be buying the game.



And you think this commercial did it?


And I think this commercial did . . . what?

Appeal to a more wide audience than metroid fans? Yes.

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I initially hoped there would be lots of people ignorant enough to get the game thinking is another FPS with some g!mmicks, and thats probably what happened with the first prime, but thats only a short term benefit, these are the same kind of idiots that started the metroid/halo retarded comparison in the first place, who were expecting metroid to be like those games and who ended up being dissapointed and whiny about it, making terribly publicity and really bad word-of-mouth for the whole series in general, "too much keys", "its too hard", "it has too much backtracking" basically "it made me think and I hate that", stupid people.

This only hurts the future of metroid games more and more, this is the reason we got a game like hunters.


We got Metroid Hunters because of casual gamers?

Your points are confusing at best.

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« Reply #46 on: August 25, 2007, 08:18:39 PM »
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And you think this commercial did it? it shows another boring FPS, probably the most hated genre among the "non-gaming" crowd. The first Prime commercial was aimed at everyone who would like a Metroid game, not just the previous fans, and specially NOT FPS fans, it showed really little action.


Maybe Nintendo shouldn't advertise it at all then? /confused
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« Reply #47 on: August 25, 2007, 09:25:52 PM »
How ANYONE can get from the new commercial that Metroid Prime 3 is just another FPS is confounding to me. If anything the commercial did the opposite, it showed an interactive experience and did not emphasize the First Person perspective but how it impacts YOU. It made the game out to be unique in how it draws you in. Really I think the argument boils down to this

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« Reply #48 on: August 25, 2007, 10:08:53 PM »
This ad does several very IMPORTANT things that gamers are likely to miss, but play into Nintendo's entire strategy to try and sell the game to its unique demographics:

1. The game is being played in a public place

2. The game is being played in a well lit place

3. The game is being played with a crowd of people watching

4. The music was the same wii music uised for all the commercials up to now

All these things build up to what was probably the driving message behind the shape of this advertisement:

Intimidated by videogames like this? Don't be.

The video showed a lot of off-screen action (very important to show the wii movements, as well as to show the fun factor), it showed it being played with plenty of on-lookers for a communal shared experience(no lone gamers here), and it showed it being played in a well lit PUBLIC place(you don't need to be ashamed of playing this game, you don't need to hide in the basement). And by avoiding a musical change, not only do they have a consistent theme between this game and more friendly titles, but they avoid the typical hardcore-signifying tunes and sounds that would cause viewers to close their mind off.

This is EXACTLY the opposite of the gaming stereotype (alone, completely lost in the game, in some dark, private room). This is exactly the opposite of game ads that extoll how their games are extreme or exclusive or epic. This is...simply fun.

Now that I think about it, why they showed it in an airport: they're trying to get as far away from that isolated basement stereotype as possible. *smacks self in forehead* Genius.

Nintendo faced a problem of selling what was an intensely hardcore sci-fi shooting experience to its fanbase. This is what they came up with: don't tell them that Metroid is an epic experience. Emphasize all the ways that the Wii makes it a FRIENDLY one.

Lying? Perhaps. Creative truths? Definitely. But isn't that what ads are anyways? Don't sell them something they won't want, sell them something they will.
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« Reply #49 on: August 25, 2007, 10:13:24 PM »
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Lying? Perhaps.


No joke. I'll certainly be playing Metroid in the dark by myself, listening to its moody sci-fi themes and reveling in the feeling of isolation.
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