Topic: SUPER SMASH BROS BRAWL - The New Megathread

[EasyCure]

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Originally posted by: Bill Aurion
We've gone the longest without a new Final Smash or How to Play/Techniques Smashdate, so I'll go with Pit's Final Smash...

My dream Smashdate is anything Earthbound-related, though it'd make the most sense to start off with Ness' Profile...

i've been thinking about what ness might look like. will he go the "cute" route like yoshi/pikachu where his model is basically the same with some extra polygons or will they try to make him a little more like-like, ala link, zelda or pit? with Pit they completely reimagined him for 3d but with Ness they already have a model to work with from melee which is pretty cartoony and "cute." is there a chance they might change him though?

while we're on the subject of EB, brawl should have Paula to add more female characters to the roster, or pokey (with spider looking robot armor perhaps?) to add more villains.

and this is a long shot but it would be awesome to get to name Ness' final smash (PSI *favorite thing*). the more realistic guess for his final smash will be PSI starstorm omega.  

[Bill Aurion]

I think he'll most definitely go the Yoshi route, with some slightly better "simplistic" textures...Since this is HAL's character, expect them to hold the character as true to the original as possible! =D

I also definitely think Paula should be added, though it'd make just as much sense to just make her a costume...A clone is a possibility, but then NESS would become the clone considering he's stolen most of his attacks from her...In a perfect world, I would give Paula her moves back and give Ness a new move-set that better represents his in Earthbound...On another note, I predict Flint or Lucas to join the cast from Mother 3...

And yes, PSI ___ Omega would be fantastic...I would rather not Ness steal yet ANOTHER move...

[EasyCure]

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Originally posted by: Bill Aurion
I think he'll most definitely go the Yoshi route, with some slightly better "simplistic" textures...Since this is HAL's character, expect them to hold the character as true to the original as possible! =D

I also definitely think Paula should be added, though it'd make just as much sense to just make her a costume...A clone is a possibility, but then NESS would become the clone considering he's stolen most of his attacks from her...In a perfect world, I would give Paula her moves back and give Ness a new move-set that better represents his in Earthbound...On another note, I predict Flint or Lucas to join the cast from Mother 3...

And yes, PSI ___ Omega would be fantastic...I would rather not Ness steal yet ANOTHER move...

i wouldnt mind keeping him as true to the original as possible but even the melee model looked a lil off.. i guess i was expecting him to look a little more like the clay models found in the earthbound "manual."

if they added Lucas or Flint and didnt announce a US release for Mother 3, i will riot in the street.

and yes, in a perfect world  paula and ness would be more like their original characters in brawl, but i have a feeling they'll keep ness as in and have his final smash be starstorm omega, stealing poo's power. i'd love for them to prove me wrong and have his *favorite thing* be the final smash, especially if they used the same on screen images from the original game, with or without new sound effects. that would ROCK!

[Luigi Dude]

Well I think we're guaranteed a new Mother character in this game since Ness has been in the original and Melee.  The same holds true to F-Zero as well.  Both series are in need of more representation.

I'm hoping for Flint from Mother 3 to be in the game.  Of course I wonder with Mother 3 being Japan only and all, but it is the latest Mother game and so it seems likely that Sakurai would put in a character from it since it's the latest one.  Plus I think Sakurai might be willing to do it since Flints a cowboy, and American's love cowboys.  He has a much better chance of being loved in America then Marth and Roy did and so I could see that being the decided factor for Sakurai.

[nickmitch]

Weren't we guaranteed no Japan only characters? It's pretty safe to assume that no Mother 3 characters would be in the game unless NOA announces Mother 3 first. Personally, I want to see Poo. He'd be awesome.

[Kenology]

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Originally posted by: Arbok
Well, music is more important to different people. I love soundtracks, they dominate my collection of music, so I was hoping for really grand stuff from the Brawl score as a few of these will likely make it onto my iPod in the end (yes, I'm that much of a nerd). Not that I'm dissatisfied with the end result, but I do think it could have been better with a orchestra.

VGM soundtracks dominate my collection of music too.  While I think the arrangement itself is really nice (even though it sounds somewhat lifted from Manabu Namiki's arrangement in Famicom 20th Anniversary Arrange Soundtracks), I just think more realistic samples should've been used.  I personally love MIDI music (and yes, I'm one of the poeple who want MIDI music in my Zelda games as opposed to a real orchestra - which isn't even realistic, but tha's another discussion).  

It's not that I'ma synth whore, it's just that I've heard better sample pumped out of my N64 even.
 

[Ceric]

Personally I would like a How To Play.  In specific: Dodging.  I wonder if that mechanic has changed any.

[Luigi Dude]

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Originally posted by: TVman
Weren't we guaranteed no Japan only characters? It's pretty safe to assume that no Mother 3 characters would be in the game unless NOA announces Mother 3 first. Personally, I want to see Poo. He'd be awesome.

No, there was no guarantee.  Sakurai said that since Smash Bros is more popular outside of Japan they don't really plan on throwing in Japan only characters.  But he then said, since Marth and Roy were so well received by western audiences though, they'd think about MAYBE using a Japanese only character.

This is why many believe Marth still might be in the game, but it does open the door to maybe a Mother 3 character appearing as well.  Since Mother 2 was released in America, people here are familiar with the series and since Mother 3 is the most recent one in Japan, it's one of those cases where Sakurai might consider adding a Japan only character.

[anubis6789]

I have a feeling that Ness may still be the only character representing Earthbound/Mother, although Lucus, or Paula and Poo for that matter, may end up as some sort of alternate costume. I also feel that Ness's FSA will be PSI Rockin, and if it does use the same graphics and sound from the game I think I would be able to die happy.

I feel the same about F-zero, C. Falcon will probably be the only playable character from the series, and he already has an alternate costume, Blood Falcon, and I would like to see another costume be Kent Akechi, while his version of the costume is kind of plain it just looks better than the original in my opinion, plus that would be such an obscure cameo, and I love me some obscure cameos.

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Originally posted by: TVman
Weren't we guaranteed no Japan only characters?

From my memory, Sakurai said that they would try to stray away from adding Japan only characters, which to me sound like a stance of noncommittal, in other words; not a guarantee.

EDIT: Sorry Luigi Dude, I was still writing my post when yours was posted.

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Originally posted by: Ceric
Personally I would like a How To Play.  In specific: Dodging.  I wonder if that mechanic has changed any.

You know, I do not think that I have seen a single shield in all the media for this game, but plenty of dodging. I wonder if the shield is even in the game. I am sure that any "how to play" update dealing with dodging would have to tackle shielding, which would answer my questions, so I am with you.

As far as this game's soundtrack, and in my opinion all game soundtracks, is concerned,everything in game should be midi, because of its ability to warp and bend fluidly with in game actions as well as its relatively low overhead, and only scripted events like cut-scenes, intros, credits, Title screens, etc. should use non-midi formats. I throw out this view if we are talking about music and rhythm based games because then the music is more important to the actual game and the format used should be whatever fits that specific game's need.  

[Shecky]

You know EGM has a interview with the folks in charge of Prime 3 and at least the last half of it seemed ok.  They kind of cover the downside of voice acting (and really orchestrated music would fall into that category too).

One key response is that it makes last minute changes harder to deal with, which is an interesting side effect I had not thought of...

A friend of mine has some midi program that cost more than nothing and has a single instrument takes something on the order of a gig to store.  If they ran the scores through high end midi equipment and recorded that for the game... how would you even tell?

[UERD]

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how would you even tell?

It would be pretty dang hard. I have some Final Fantasy-inspired piece I got off OCRemix and it sounds almost completely orchestral, even though it's all software. Unfortunately, soundtracks are the only really good source of contemporary, melodic orchestrated music anymore, so it would be a pity if MIDI forced those musicians out of a job .

[EasyCure]

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Originally posted by: TVman
Weren't we guaranteed no Japan only characters? It's pretty safe to assume that no Mother 3 characters would be in the game unless NOA announces Mother 3 first. Personally, I want to see Poo. He'd be awesome.

plus how cool would it be for the smash announcer guy to yell out POO!!!!! on the character select screen.

but seriously, paula as an alt costume for ness i can see but poo and (lets not forget about) jeff could both have their own unique fighting styles. Poo could be a medium whieght speed character with martial arts type moves while jeff could be a normal paced lightweight with projectile moves and use lots of gadgetry.

having never played mother 3 i cant comment on flint or lucas.

also, wheres the pokey love!?

[nickmitch]

I still kind of doubt a Mother 3 character. Although, perhaps if one WAS included and a well received as Roy and Marth were, maybe we could see Mother 3 stateside at last. We can only hope. And I guess we can continue complaining to Nintendo, but I'm lazy.

[Tanookisuit]

I'm kind of wondering if even Ness will be back...

[EasyCure]

i would hope so, he had some of the most unique moves in the game.

[Kairon]

On the contrary... maybe they'll add in Paula?

OMG another female Nintendo character you guys forgot!

Edit: doh.

[EasyCure]

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Originally posted by: Kairon
On the contrary... maybe they'll add in Paula?

OMG another female Nintendo character you guys forgot!

my post from the last page:

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while we're on the subject of EB, brawl should have Paula to add more female characters to the roster, or pokey (with spider looking robot armor perhaps?) to add more villains.

[Smoke39]

I'd like to see Jeff added.  His lack of PSI would make him contrast nicely to Ness, and his reliance on guns and other equipment could make him a unique character.

Also, I want to be able to play as a starman.  Those guys just look cool. :b

[Arbok]

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Originally posted by: Strell
Oh god.  I talked about the moon's alignment, people.  Did you think I was being serious?

Yep, clearly over my head... sorry about that.

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Originally posted by: Tanookisuit
I'm kind of wondering if even Ness will be back...

Why wouldn't he be? Wasn't it stated at one point that all the original Smash Bros characters would be back? I think the cuts are going to come from the ones added to Melee.

[Kairon]

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Originally posted by: Smoke39
I'd like to see Jeff added.  His lack of PSI would make him contrast nicely to Ness, and his reliance on guns and other equipment could make him a unique character.

Jeff? Oh, you mean Isaac. Or is that Abraham?

[EasyCure]

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Originally posted by: Kairon

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Originally posted by: Smoke39
I'd like to see Jeff added.  His lack of PSI would make him contrast nicely to Ness, and his reliance on guns and other equipment could make him a unique character.

Jeff? Oh, you mean Isaac. Or is that Abraham?

Which one of The Beatles names did he get?

[Arbok]

Pit's Final Smash:



So flashy, so awesome.

[GoldenPhoenix]

You are lucky I was about to beat you to it!

[Mashiro]

Great final smash that's epic =D

[GoldenPhoenix]

Yes I agree, that looks like an AWESOME special move and could make for some crazy fun watching people try to dodge the army of Centurions.