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RE:Super Smash Bros. Brawl: The Megathread
« Reply #2000 on: August 06, 2007, 08:03:36 PM »
Ike moveset is up.
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RE:Super Smash Bros. Brawl: The Megathread
« Reply #2001 on: August 06, 2007, 08:05:17 PM »
Haha, I beat the so called hardcore Smash Brothers fans when it came to posting what the update was!
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RE: Super Smash Bros. Brawl: The Megathread
« Reply #2002 on: August 06, 2007, 08:06:41 PM »
Lol you win this round.

Correct me if I am wrong, is this the first "normal" special move update?

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RE:Super Smash Bros. Brawl: The Megathread
« Reply #2003 on: August 06, 2007, 08:07:14 PM »


Wow. Well, Ike is clearly not Marth/Roy with a new character model, if there was still any doubt. I'm really amazed how high he jumps with Aether. Looks to be a dangerous recovery move, if he falls down as quick as it seems, but it's very unique from everyone else.

Also, Eruption looks pretty neat.

EDIT: Oh, also, I liked this line:

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He’s not really invincible—he still takes damage. But he won’t flinch in the slightest.


Sounds like someone took Smash_Brothers idea on how to balance the bulker characters. Also, if it's true that he can't be flinched while doing Aether, it makes it pretty hard to edge guard against... but, again, the move looks pretty risky depending on how fast he plummets on the downward strike.
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RE: Super Smash Bros. Brawl: The Megathread
« Reply #2004 on: August 06, 2007, 08:08:47 PM »
Reminds me of Kirby somewhat.

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« Reply #2005 on: August 06, 2007, 08:09:54 PM »
Well I found the smoke bomb reveal far more exciting, oh well we have tomorrow.
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RE: Super Smash Bros. Brawl: The Megathread
« Reply #2006 on: August 06, 2007, 08:10:30 PM »
Aether looks like Kirby's sword move, except flashier.

Maybe we'll see Marth again after all.

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RE: Super Smash Bros. Brawl: The Megathread
« Reply #2007 on: August 06, 2007, 08:11:07 PM »
I was right, it was a character related update tonight.  Well it looks like Ike is the replacement for Roy with his standard B being pretty much the same, but his Up B is different and looks sweet.

Plus I like how Sakurai says Heavyweight characters will have moves where they wont flinch if hit.  It looks like Smash_Brothers dream of a much improved Bowser will be coming true.
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« Reply #2008 on: August 06, 2007, 08:13:19 PM »
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I was right, it was a character related update tonight.  Well it looks like Ike is the replacement for Roy with his standard B being pretty much the same, but his Up B is different and looks sweet.

Plus I like how Sakurai says Heavyweight characters will have moves where they wont flinch if hit.  It looks like Smash_Brothers dream of a much improved Bowser will be coming true.


Actually that is my dream too, no more neutered Bowser.
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RE:Super Smash Bros. Brawl: The Megathread
« Reply #2009 on: August 06, 2007, 08:15:27 PM »
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Well it looks like Ike is the replacement for Roy with his standard B being pretty much the same, but his Up B is different and looks sweet.


I don't know about that.



Roy's "charged-explosive-sword-o-doom" had a huge explosion... but actually not a lot of range. Ike shoving his sword into the ground already looks to have much better range than that.
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RE:Super Smash Bros. Brawl: The Megathread
« Reply #2010 on: August 06, 2007, 08:16:57 PM »
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I was right, it was a character related update tonight.  Well it looks like Ike is the replacement for Roy with his standard B being pretty much the same, but his Up B is different and looks sweet.


Eruption looks more to like a close range chargeable PK Fire. If you look close enough you can see that Ike has plunged his sword into the ground, thus it probably is not a slashing attack.

I am happy though that Ike is not going to use the Marth/Roy moveset because that means more unique characters, and it makes the chance of Marth returning go back up.

EDIT: Sorry Arbok, did not see your post while I was writing mine.
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« Reply #2011 on: August 06, 2007, 08:20:13 PM »
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Eruption looks more to like a close range chargeable PK Fire. If you look close enough you can see that Ike has plunged his sword into the ground, thus it probably is not a slashing attack.


That was my impression as well, something akin to the PK Fire or Bowser's flame breath in terms of range. I also can't help but wonder how "charged up" the attack is that we are seeing...

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EDIT: Sorry Arbok, did not see your post while I was writing mine.


That's okay. We are in the 30 minute "happy hour" period when everyone is rushing on to comment on the update, so we are going to get a lot of comments stated near back-to-back, at which point it's easy to have a few posts logged in while you are writing your own.  
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RE: Super Smash Bros. Brawl: The Megathread
« Reply #2012 on: August 06, 2007, 08:21:27 PM »
While Ike having an original move set is nice, I just hope the Roy/Marth set isn't lost. This could be an indicator of either one's return or an additional FE character with their moveset.
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« Reply #2013 on: August 06, 2007, 08:25:24 PM »
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Eruption looks more to like a close range chargeable PK Fire. If you look close enough you can see that Ike has plunged his sword into the ground, thus it probably is not a slashing attack.


That was my impression as well, something akin to the PK Fire or Bowser's flame breath in terms of range. I also can't help but wonder how "charged up" the attack is that we are seeing...

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Originally posted by: anubis6789
EDIT: Sorry Arbok, did not see your post while I was writing mine.


That's more okay. We are in the 30 minute "happy hour" period whenever is rushing on to comment on the update, so we are going to get a lot of comments stated near back-to-back, at which point it's easy to have a few posts logged in while you are writing your own.


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RE:Super Smash Bros. Brawl: The Megathread
« Reply #2014 on: August 06, 2007, 08:25:31 PM »
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While Ike having an original move set is nice, I just hope the Roy/Marth set isn't lost. This could be an indicator of either one's return or an additional FE character with their moveset.


I don't see why it would be. Ike being original would certainly indicate that they are trying to differentiate the character from the previous "Fire Emblem play style". Heck, perhaps Ike is a "heavier" character, ala Link, which would separate him even more from Marth or Roy, and while it's not locked that either of those will return... I do feel confident that at least someone will carry the same play style.

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Well, given the number of typos I made in that quoted reply, I'd say I'm rushing enough...
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RE: Super Smash Bros. Brawl: The Megathread
« Reply #2015 on: August 06, 2007, 08:30:21 PM »
I am now thinking that the one-hit kill move mentioned in his character update is his FSA, but then again I thought that Aether would be his Final Smash and I thought that tonight would be a music update, so anything I say should be taken very lightly.

Just a note, but Ike only has super-armor (the no-flinch-still-can-be-damaged mode, not an actual suit of armor, if I was confusing anybody) on while the sword is not on him, and also did any one else notice that aether has little to no lateral movement?  
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RE: Super Smash Bros. Brawl: The Megathread
« Reply #2016 on: August 06, 2007, 08:40:03 PM »
Who is this "Ike" character? Is that short for Eisenhower?  

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« Reply #2017 on: August 06, 2007, 08:41:13 PM »
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Who is this "Ike" character? Is that short for Eisenhower?


He is the brother of Captain Pike the first captain of the Enterprise before Kirk.  
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« Reply #2018 on: August 06, 2007, 08:48:08 PM »
Ah okay, that makes sense now. I thought he was the brother of Mike and together they produced fruit flavored jelly candies.

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RE: Super Smash Bros. Brawl: The Megathread
« Reply #2019 on: August 06, 2007, 08:49:39 PM »
You fish way too much.



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« Reply #2020 on: August 06, 2007, 09:04:25 PM »
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RE:Super Smash Bros. Brawl: The Megathread
« Reply #2021 on: August 06, 2007, 09:46:30 PM »
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While Ike having an original move set is nice, I just hope the Roy/Marth set isn't lost. This could be an indicator of either one's return or an additional FE character with their moveset.


I don't see why it would be. Ike being original would certainly indicate that they are trying to differentiate the character from the previous "Fire Emblem play style". Heck, perhaps Ike is a "heavier" character, ala Link, which would separate him even more from Marth or Roy, and while it's not locked that either of those will return... I do feel confident that at least someone will carry the same play style.


Well, given the popularity of that move set, I would think that it would return in some form. I mean, Marth was a pretty top-tier character. So, if not him, then someone should "carry the torch," so to speak.
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RE: Super Smash Bros. Brawl: The Megathread
« Reply #2022 on: August 06, 2007, 10:35:19 PM »
I can see them getting rid of the move set entirely in order to use more moves taken directly from the Fire Emblem series like Aether instead of the generic sword attacks that Marth had.  I never played as him because his moves were just boring.

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« Reply #2023 on: August 06, 2007, 11:22:09 PM »
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I can see them getting rid of the move set entirely in order to use more moves taken directly from the Fire Emblem series like Aether instead of the generic sword attacks that Marth had.  I never played as him because his moves were just boring.


Supposedly, from what I have heard, and I have not verified this myself, Roy used some of his moves from Smash Bros. in Fire Emblem: Sword of Seals. Assuming that to be true, that would mean that they are more Roy's moves then Marth's, and, more importantly, it also means that the moves are in a Fire Emblem game, thus making them legitimate moves for SSB even though they may not be used by the character that uses them in a game. All of this is assuming Marth will return and Roy's fate as questionable, and that Roy does in fact use some of his SSBM moves in his game, which I will say again, I have not verified.
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RE:Super Smash Bros. Brawl: The Megathread
« Reply #2024 on: August 06, 2007, 11:41:40 PM »
Marth's moves were from the Fire Emblem series.  His move set was a combination of attacks different sword users used in all the different Fire Emblem games.  Just because he didn't have anything big and flashy like Aether doesn't make him any less true to his series then Ike is.  
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