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In regards to yourself, I don't see you as an extreme person like SOME people here who are mostly negative, but I feel you have a bias against market growing games such as Wiisports, that attract people who may have never played a game before.
Well then let me clarify that I'm not against them. Nintendo and others can bombard the market to their hearts content with those types of games. My concern has only been the potential for distraction from AAA traditional games. And I base this concern on actual experience of having a dust-collecting GameCube for the better part of 2+ years.
For example, people kept claiming 3 or 4 titles within the next year as being proof positive that there is an adequate balance, and I'd claim back that 3 or 4 titles could mean a potential dust-collecting Wii for the other 8-9 months of the year for those that are more inclined towards those types of games. Then they countered back with such 3rd party titles as Red Steel that would be AAA titles. I said that it was questionable based on previews up to that point, and it was scoffed off as nebulous speculation. Turns out, it sucked... Just a little anecdote of the types of useless discussions that can happen here for the sake of defending before listening.
Back to my point. There's nothing wrong with WiiSports type games. The difference is, unlike many, I'm not sold on the notion that Nintendo is big enough to be able to satisfy everybody. When I've said this before, the first thing people say is how Brain Age was made in 4 hours... by 1.5 people... living out of a car... at night... under 3 feet of snow... with thumbtacks in their shoes, as proof that they take up no resources and the traditional games will just flow aplenty. Yet it doesn't matter if there is still a dust-collecting system under the TV. There's no guarantee, except in the minds of fans whose knee-jerk reactions are to defend the base rather than learn tolerance of alternate opinions and concerns.
I was a fanboy for a long time too, until the PR started to ring hollow and became more self-serving than customer-serving. When the messages that get repeated over and over are mostly excuses why NOT to do things, it got pretty old.
That being said, I'd buy Wii Play immediately if I can get it without a controller. So no, I'm not anti-wiisports, anti-minigame, anti-grandma or anti-whatever. I'm pro-volume of AAA traditional stuff, which was lacking for years, for
whatever reason, be it those other types of games or not. If you do actually detect any condescension, it'd only be a little hobgoblin reaction in response to the brick wall thrown up in response to anything that doesn't spin Nintendo in a positive light. Surely I am the "brick wall" to them until I tow the line. But when discussions are framed to be any varying subtext of "Is Nintendo awesome, very awesome, or perfect" or "Is Sony doomed, dead, or so dead they're already reincarnated and dying again" or else risk someone freaking out, I wouldn't lose any sleep over my "brick wall" status. I don't really rely on a Nintendo fansite for open gaming discussions (no offense to the certainly intelligent ones here).
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No, you're proving your own point. Over and over again you say it won't cost Nintendo much to do what you want them to do. How do you know that? You don't. But then you accuse other people of having unreasonable opinions, which again is just your opinion so really you don't have a leg to stand on.
No. My point was how many people adopt "the message" as a matter of fact and structure discussions on its basis. I gave a few examples, and you seem to be increasingly compelled to defend Nintendo by running away with those examples, avoiding/proving the main point, and putting words in my mouth. My point was made whether you understand what it was or not, so I consider the topic finished. If you're done being defensive, I'm fine having a reasonable HD discussion too.
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Wii doesn't need HD or Blu-Ray. However, developers constantly bellyache about how technologically inferior the system is. That sucks. I agree that Nintendo has to look out for itself, but they make an awful lot of selfish choices and they only change when they screw up. Would it be so hard to listen to what consumers and developers want? It's give and take. You can't make everyone happy, but you can meet half-way, you make compromises. Spending money to make money isn't the only long-term plan. Nintendo doesn't need to do that. At the same time, could Nintendo have made a better console for $250 with WiiSports and still broken even? I'd say no doubt about it.
Agreed!
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