Topic: Microsoft Reduces Shipment Targets for June

[Jin-X]

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[vudu]

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Peter Moore, however, says it's the result of the company being conservative, in light of inventory build up at retailers

Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't the inventory build up due to the fact that Microsoft over shipped systems during Q4 so they could meet their projected 10 million units shipped by the end of the year?  

[NinGurl69 *huggles]

Maybe an analyst can answer that =D

[nitsu niflheim]

I fully expect them to stop production next, until they start selling again.  This seems like the same thing that Nintendo went through with the GCN.

[Flames_of_chaos]

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Originally posted by: nitsu niflheim
I fully expect them to stop production next, until they start selling again.  This seems like the same thing that Nintendo went through with the GCN.

I think they will do that exactly but for the purpose of making the rumored zephr 360s with an HDMI port and the rumored 120GB hard drive.

[Ceric]

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Originally posted by: Lord_die_seis

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Originally posted by: nitsu niflheim
I fully expect them to stop production next, until they start selling again.  This seems like the same thing that Nintendo went through with the GCN.

I think they will do that exactly but for the purpose of making the rumored zephr 360s with an HDMI port and the rumored 120GB hard drive.

... IPTV  DVR setup Box.  

[MaryJane]

I also have to go with the thought that they're stopping production for the new model, X360's still sell fairly well for 2yrs into it's life, though they are seeing some backups.

[Louieturkey]

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Originally posted by: MaryJane
I also have to go with the thought that they're stopping production for the new model, X360's still sell fairly well for 2yrs into it's life, though they are seeing some backups.

FYI, it's 14 months into its life, not 2 years.

[MaryJane]

hmmm I meant entering it's 2nd year, you know like I'm doing well for the 23rd year of my life, my b-day is august, but this is the 23rd year.

I guess I could have explained that better.  

[King of Twitch]

A certain IGN editor's 360 broke down again. Maybe he's not aware of Microsoft's long-standing reputation??

[KDR_11k]

What, that their hardware is much better than their software?

[Spak-Spang]

Nice double burn KDR.

In one sentence you destory MS reputation with hardware and software.

[KDR_11k]

The sad thing is that the rest of their hardware (keyboards, mice, joysticks and joypads) actually have a good reputation.

[couchmonkey]

I really feel that 360 needs a price drop, but I guess Microsoft is trying to take advantage of 360's newfound profitability as long as possible.  Also, a price drop now might let Sony get the drop on MS at Christmas time, but it seems like MS is losing its chance to kick 'em while they're down.  Maybe pack-in of some major game instead of a price drop?

[KDR_11k]

I think MS doesn't see a pricedrop as necessary yet. Maybe if the PS3 started impacting their sales. BTW, the PS3 will be available only in the 600€ version here.

[Spak-Spang]

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Originally posted by: couchmonkey
I really feel that 360 needs a price drop, but I guess Microsoft is trying to take advantage of 360's newfound profitability as long as possible.  Also, a price drop now might let Sony get the drop on MS at Christmas time, but it seems like MS is losing its chance to kick 'em while they're down.  Maybe pack-in of some major game instead of a price drop?

See, I believe Microsoft is waiting until it can release the better Xbox 360 with a cheaper price.  And I expect that price to be around $50-75 less than the premium Xbox package.  This would really threaten Nintendo.

Which is why I stated in another thread I believe Nintendo will be selling the Wii for $150.00 by Christmas 2007.

Nintendo wants this system cheap...and is already making money off of its success.  Once components for the system get cheaper then a price drop will occur...and I believe it will be a significant price drop.  If the Xbox 360 is priced at around $325.00-$350.00 December 2007, a $199-$240.00 Wii doesn't look as good of a deal.  But a $150.00 Wii looks like a steal.

I believe this will happen.  As much as I believe that the Virtual Console games will get a price adjustment around the holiday season.  

I also believe Ceric's concept that Nintendo is using the Wii as a tester system, and will release a new console in 3-4 years basically a fully HD compatible Wii.  I however believe Gamecube games will still be backwards compatible.

[Nephilim]

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Originally posted by: couchmonkey
I really feel that 360 needs a price drop, but I guess Microsoft is trying to take advantage of 360's newfound profitability as long as possible.  Also, a price drop now might let Sony get the drop on MS at Christmas time, but it seems like MS is losing its chance to kick 'em while they're down.  Maybe pack-in of some major game instead of a price drop?

It already has in australia
a few places sell the budget version for 380, which is cheaper then a wii (400)
ironic and sad


offtopic: makes me wonder if i should of just waited for wii pricedrop and for gc zelda, since my wii is now getting dust and there are a dozen off 360 games I want to play/hire

[Kairon]

MS should pack in Rare's sales-disappointments. They're decent games and are less likely to be criticized if they come bundled. Plus, they're the type of games that potentially expand audience: Pack-in Kameo, pack-in Viva Pinata anyone?

~Carmine "cai" M. Red
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[Ceric]

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Originally posted by: KDR_11k
The sad thing is that the rest of their hardware (keyboards, mice, joysticks and joypads) actually have a good reputation.

Yes, besides some of their wireless offerings, I've found that every piece of hardware I've ever owned that was designed and made by Microsoft is solid and reliable.  I've never owned any of the Game Consoles but I have owned a variety of Mice and keyboards, the newest top-of-the-line ergonomic keyboard is great.  Also if I did have problems they respond quickly.  

I hear the t Viva Pinata is really good.  Also I've seen a regular priced Premium XBox 360 packed in with this years Madden.  In recap,  If the new revision is the same price as the Premium now or cheaper and comes with Viva Pinata I probably try to pick that up.

[Kairon]

After reading the horror stories of people being on their third or fifth X360s, I wonder if MS includes those repeat consoles in their numbers...

~Carmine "Cai" M. Red
Kairon@aol.com

[BlackNMild2k1]

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Originally posted by: Kairon
After reading the horror stories of people being on their third or fifth X360s, I wonder if MS includes those repeat consoles in their numbers...

~Carmine "Cai" M. Red
Kairon@aol.com

Did Sony....!?

Did someone say PS2? 100 Million shipped!!! How come the software #'s don't support that though?

Why do you think they report their #'s as shipped and not sold? Because they also had to ship out replacements, and since they were produced and shipped they might as well be counted.

[Kairon]

Matt from IGN is on his 5th X360 for example.

~Carmine "Cai" M. Red
Kairon@aol.com

[IceCold]

That's just ridiculous.

[NinGurl69 *huggles]

People should just give up videogames when the 3rd console calls it quits.

[Smash_Brother]

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Originally posted by: Kairon
Matt from IGN is on his 5th X360 for example.

Umm, wow...

If I was on my 2nd Wii, I'd already have Nintendo gradually creeping up my sh*t list. 5th is OUT of the question...