Author Topic: No More Heroes for Wii!!!! (Read 200180 times)

nitsu niflheim · « **Reply #325 on:** September 20, 2007, 08:41:20 AM »

I haven't been following this game hardly at all, but I actually think it might be a game that would interest me.

Stogi · « **Reply #326 on:** September 20, 2007, 09:00:33 AM »

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AND YET I STILL DON"T KNOW WTF THE PICTURE IS REFERRING TO! It looks like a retarded hippo.

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Wow. Epic fail.

I don't know how not knowing what the hell that was is "epic fail," but to each his own.

GoldenPhoenix · « **Reply #327 on:** September 20, 2007, 09:07:23 AM »

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Originally posted by: KashogiStogi
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AND YET I STILL DON"T KNOW WTF THE PICTURE IS REFERRING TO! It looks like a retarded hippo.

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Wow. Epic fail.

I don't know how not knowing what the hell that was is "epic fail," but to each his own.

Don't worry about it, this is one of those games where you have an elite cult that talks down to anyone who may not "get" everything about it. I mean they about have too, because it could easily turn out to be a clunky mess, so they must cling to something to rally around.

Dirk Temporo · « **Reply #328 on:** September 20, 2007, 04:24:48 PM »

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Don't worry about it, this is one of those games where you have an elite cult that talks down to anyone who may not "get" everything about it. I mean they about have too, because it could easily turn out to be a clunky mess, so they must cling to something to rally around.

Yeah, Pokemon is so totally hardcore underground elite dawg.

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I don't get it either. What does Pokemon have to do with No More Heroes?

Critical thinking time. Look at my post. Read the quote, then look at the picture. Think about the name of the Pokemon.

ShyGuy · « **Reply #329 on:** September 20, 2007, 04:32:02 PM »

Oh.... I get it, it's just not funny.

Bill Aurion · « **Reply #330 on:** September 20, 2007, 04:42:15 PM »

If I had noticed Kashogi's post sooner, I would have personally have chosen:

=3

EasyCure · « **Reply #331 on:** September 20, 2007, 05:34:44 PM »

i like the slowpoke pic better this time Bill, not that your screen cap isn't good.

if you've followed any NMH in the past you'd know that the shaking of your beam sword is old news, but to be fair you might of been on hiatus when tin discussion came up.

Darkheart · « **Reply #332 on:** September 20, 2007, 09:45:16 PM »

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http://www.gametrailers.com/player/25261.html

New game footage of saber combat that isnt 3 seconds of footage HUZZAH. Wow just wow, there is really no blood and fights like Sora from Kingdom Hearts, INSTA-BUY!

Dirk Temporo · « **Reply #333 on:** September 21, 2007, 05:07:38 AM »

I'm sure Suda didn't just remove the blood on a whim. He's probably fighting robots or something.

But if the blood HAS been removed, I am going to be very, very angry.

I sent a message to the IGN mailbag, to see if they know anything. Like I said, considering Suda's claims of the game being "more violent than Manhunt 2," if they just completely scrapped the blood, the decapitation, and the cutting in half, it will be incredibly lame.

Bill Aurion · « **Reply #334 on:** September 21, 2007, 05:17:02 AM »

Rad particle effects > blood...

Stogi · « **Reply #335 on:** September 21, 2007, 05:35:17 AM »

I agree with Dirk (for once).

Slicing a dude in half was the best part of an earlier trailer. Taking that out changes the whole mood of the game. People exploding into a billion particles is cool, but no where near as mature as decapitation.

Bill Aurion · « **Reply #336 on:** September 21, 2007, 05:42:07 AM »

"People exploding into a billion particles is cool, but no where near as mature as decapitation."

SixthAngel · « **Reply #337 on:** September 21, 2007, 05:47:51 AM »

I am pretty sure the they still get sliced in half with the same blood effects except they explode into money right afterwards. It is hard to tell because Travis is always in the way but there is always a dark spray as well and not just money flying in the air.

EasyCure · « **Reply #338 on:** September 21, 2007, 06:50:45 AM »

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Originally posted by: Dirk Temporo
I'm sure Suda didn't just remove the blood on a whim. He's probably fighting robots or something.

But if the blood HAS been removed, I am going to be very, very angry.

I sent a message to the IGN mailbag, to see if they know anything. Like I said, considering Suda's claims of the game being "more violent than Manhunt 2," if they just completely scrapped the blood, the decapitation, and the cutting in half, it will be incredibly lame.

get ready to to be very, very
angry

Dirk Temporo · « **Reply #339 on:** September 21, 2007, 08:43:11 AM »

Well even in that interview, he says Manhunt 2's AO rating didn't bother him, so there's no indication that he actually changed anything in the game. He's just saying that Manhunt 2 will be more violent because it's a more gritty, realistic violence as opposed to campy Tarantino-esque violence.

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I am pretty sure the they still get sliced in half with the same blood effects except they explode into money right afterwards. It is hard to tell because Travis is always in the way but there is always a dark spray as well and not just money flying in the air.

It's not hard to tell at all. The blood sprayed ten feet into the air, and marked the ground. It's easy to tell that in the gameplay videos and the new trailer, the blood effects are nowhere to be seen.

EDIT: Hey, the DestroyMan fight is playable at TGS:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CqO8g33ooRM

Bill Aurion · « **Reply #340 on:** September 21, 2007, 12:25:49 PM »

IT'S GAME TIME!

Dirk Temporo · « **Reply #341 on:** September 21, 2007, 04:14:48 PM »

Oh yay. More evidence that Suda scrapped the over-the-top campy violence.

Honestly, if it turns out they completely got rid of the blood and slicing and dicing in favor of bland, generic particle effects, I may not buy this game until it hits the bargain bins.

There's an atmosphere to this game, which is campy action/sci-fi movies with over-the-top violence, like Versus for instance. Without the blood, it loses personality.

EDIT: Oh goddamn it.

From IGN: "We love the style, including the pixel dust explosions of the enemies after they shatter from existence. It proves you don't need gushing blood to have satisfaction of taking out the bad guys."

Goddamn it Suda. What did you DO?

Stogi · « **Reply #342 on:** September 21, 2007, 05:07:52 PM »

I hate how the ManHunt trails basically f*cked it up for everybody.

Kairon · « **Reply #343 on:** September 21, 2007, 05:09:04 PM »

Look, just watch the trailers ok? They're awesome.

Bill Aurion · « **Reply #344 on:** September 21, 2007, 05:49:45 PM »

"Goddamn it Suda. What did you DO?"

He got rid of the people that were only going to buy it because of the blood, such as yourself...

Caliban · « **Reply #345 on:** September 21, 2007, 05:50:44 PM »

Blood or no Blood, I'm ready to pump that Beam katana.

Kairon · « **Reply #346 on:** September 21, 2007, 06:06:03 PM »

Never has waggle felt this good...

Dirk Temporo · « **Reply #347 on:** September 21, 2007, 10:19:59 PM »

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"Goddamn it Suda. What did you DO?"

He got rid of the people that were only going to buy it because of the blood, such as yourself...

Because I said I wasn't going to buy it, right? I explained my reasoning earlier, and compound the fact that the particle explosions are bland and generic, it leaves me very irritated.

Also in the commercial you linked, Travis says "Let the bloodshed begin." Hard to do that if there isn't any blood!

EDIT: Wait! There is a glimmer of hope! I just found out that the demo was specially created for TGS. Maybe they took out the blood for the demo in case there were underage childrens there.

Mashiro · « **Reply #348 on:** September 22, 2007, 12:12:29 AM »

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Originally posted by: Bill Aurion
"Goddamn it Suda. What did you DO?"

He got rid of the people that were only going to buy it because of the blood, such as yourself...

Yeah now people will only buy it for it's mediocre gameplay and "awesomely" stylized graphics!

Duh . . .

In all seriousness though, the trailer was kinda cool (the over the topness of it all was well done) but . . . I don't like the people disappearing either. I'd rather it be more realistic violence as opposed to wind waker stuff. While it worked well for Wind Waker with exploding enemies, it just seems out of place for NMH.

anubis6789 · « **Reply #349 on:** September 22, 2007, 04:16:40 AM »

I do not find the new lack of blood exploding from enemies to be all that disheartening, especially if it was done for a stylistic purpose.

Maybe Suda thought that a Tsunami of blood coming out of enemies did not fit in anymore with what he wanted for the game. Maybe, like Dirk mentioned, since this was a demo made for TGS the blood was removed for the sake of "the children" that played it on the show floor, and given that blood stains are all over the walls in the Destroy Man's battle that might be a possibility. Maybe we are looking at the Japanese version, when the NA version will have the blood back in, considering that the American GCN Killer 7 was the only non-censored version this may be a good possibility as well.

Regardless, I do not care, and even if it turns out to be a "mediocre game with stylized graphics" I will still buy it because a loved K7, and there are some games I play just to experience them, like Seaman, Hotel Dusk, and Killer 7.

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