Topic: Wii S-Video/Component Cables, aka NINTENDO PHAIL REPORT

[vudu]

Out of curiosity, why are you putting the list in the post halfway down the page?  Since you own the first post in the thread wouldn't it make more sense to update that post with the cables?

[NinGurl69 *huggles]

I'm leaving my rants intact.

eDIT: OK i'm coming to my senses.

[vudu]

I wrote a letter to Nintendo regarding the S-Video cables.  Here's the response I received.

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Hello,

Thanks for writing!  The S-Video Cables for the Nintendo Wii are
expected to be available sometime in February 2007.  If we hear any new
information on this, we will post it on our website at www.nintendo.com.
Sincerely,

Nintendo of America Inc.

[Smash_Brother]

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Originally posted by: vudu

Thanks for writing!

We completely f*cking forgot about the S-Video Cables for the Nintendo Wii, but luckily we haven't sued Madcats into bankruptcy because they usually pick up the slack in these sorts of situations.

Sincerely,

Nintendo of America Inc.

Fixed.

[darknight06]

If this interests anyone in anyway, older S-Video cables DO sort of work with the Wii.  Sorta as in I only get a B&W and slightly more garbled image out of it.  It is a cheaper Pelican S-Video cable and while the plug isn't the same it was flexible enough to get a fit.  Despite the B&W nature of it all, goddamn they better hurry up with those cables.  I just played a little TP with them at 16:9 and I'll be darned if i'm not missing it already.

[NWR_pap64]

February 2007?

It's a good thing S-video isn't required to play a system or I too would be annoyed.

Can't you guys get a third party cable for the time being?

[NinGurl69 *huggles]

pap:  here's the funny part about "time being"... 3rd party cables are NOT even available yet.

EB/gamestop have updated their Madcatz cable listing with a picture of the product.  It looks promising.

[NWR_pap64]

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Originally posted by: Professional 666
pap:  here's the funny part about "time being"... 3rd party cables are NOT even available yet.

EB/gamestop have updated their Madcatz cable listing with a picture of the product.  It looks promising.

Ouch...I thought they were already available.

Any word on when those will be available?

[31 Flavas]

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Originally posted by: Smash_Brother

Fixed.

God... You and Pro should get a room together and have your little hate orgies there. Even Ian doesn't get this retarded in his posts. I eagerly await my componet cables too, but geez settle down.

[NWR_pap64]

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Originally posted by: 31 Flavas

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Originally posted by: Smash_Brother

Fixed.

God... You and Pro should get a room together and have your little hate orgies there. Even Ian doesn't get this retarded in his posts. I eagerly await my componet cables too, but geez settle down.

Never mind SB. He gets easily bitter like that from time to time .

In all seriousness, I agree that there is way too much bitterness in this thread over a piece of wire that makes games SLIGHTLY better looking.

Again, it is unfair that S-video won't come out in a while, but again its not like the Wii REQUIRES it. You are enjoying Red Steel and CoD 3, right SB? And you were able to without an S-video cable.

True, some quality is lost but it certainly does not kill your enjoyment. Hell, I play on a 5 year old TV set using the standard cables and I still enjoy my games greatly.

[31 Flavas]

Eh... I can see a big flame coming from either professional or SB there.... I mean it's not like there isn't a difference between the cables, its rather quite easy to notice. But it's not like you can't operate on composite until they're mass produced and distributed.

And it's not even like you're missing out on a high-def picture, like you would if you bought the $600 PS3. No HDMI or Component cables come with it, THAT is what is retarded and "focking- ri-cock-ulous".

But it's not like either of us are going to win here, they're going to have their little hate-on come hell or high water.

[NWR_pap64]

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Originally posted by: 31 Flavas
Eh... I can see a big flame coming from either professional or SB there.... I mean it's not like there isn't a difference between the cables, its rather quite easy to notice. But it's not like you can't operate on composite until they're mass produced and distributed.

And it's not even like you're missing out on a high-def picture, like you would if you bought the $600 PS3. No HDMI or Component cables come with it, THAT is what is retarded and "focking- ri-cock-ulous".

But it's not like either of us are going to win here, they're going to have their little hate-on come hell or high water.

Wow, I totally forgot about that PS3 issue. Now THAT warrants a phail report because for a system that promotes high def gaming like it needs its stupid of them to not include it.

As for the flaming thing, on one hand they as customers have the right to be upset because its weird that the cable would be released 3 months later when usually all accessories and parts are at launch.

On the other, I agree that throwing a fit over a part isn't really needed to enjoy the system is silly and, well, childish. I'm not saying the difference isn't there, but what I'm saying is to hang in there and its not an issue to curse Nintendo over.

[darknight06]

Well, for me it wouldn't be such a problem if it weren't for the fact that I gave my old TV to my mother thinking that I would never have a use for it again.  However, the TV tuner that I am using ONLY supports S-Video and because of that I'm having to borrow a TV for a while until someone decides that S-Video and Wii = Brillance.  Some of you all may not see it as much of an issue, but when your gaming has been on S-Video and up since the Dreamcast it's a real bastard going back to composite.  Also, when you consider that Japan is getting them at LAUNCH it kinda rubs you the wrong way when you're over here like me thinking that having all the cables available would be a no brainer.  After all, they DON'T hide the 480p option.

[GoldenPhoenix]

I'm going to stick up for Smash and Pro on this one, it is flat out unexcusable that Nintendo has not made neither component nor S-Video cables available. It is obvious the demand is there with Nintendo selling out of them within a couple hours, yet they seem to have blatantly ignored the demand for 480p just like they did with GC. If Nintendo is going to go with no HD, they should at least provide the next best alternative, it wouldn't kill them to release the components with the freaken system launch or at the very least S-Video. It comes accross as stupid, and yes a bit in your face to people who want to get a better picture instead of the gimp Red, Yellow, and white cable. So shame on your Nintendo, you have had a great launch but giving your early adopting customers a big "FU" who want to utilize 480p or S-Video is not cool.

P.S. Have you guys seen what the components are going for on Ebay? It is ridiculous, most are over triple the retail price.

[31 Flavas]

Right, some schmucks can't wait till next week for Nintendo to ship their cables so they're going to pay though the nose on eBay. The difference in picture quality is not worth $300, these people are just being hypersensitive as I'd say the lot of you are. You're not even getting a HD image with these cable for crying out loud. You wouldn't pay $100 for 3 feet of MONSTER video/audio cable when the same exact thing is availible cheaper, now would you? So why pay $300 on eBay, for the exact same thing you can have Nintendo ship you next week or purchase in a store 2 weeks later?

I mean, the rest of the world has to wait the same amount of time  just to get the system itself. Geez, I wonder why then they are getting their cables at launch then? Besides, 3rd parties who "know what gamers want" didn't even have their cords out on time. Pelican and MadCatz could me making boat loads of sales, but arn't ready with their cables either. Geez, I guess that makes then as stupid as Nintendo then....

Just enjoy the fact we get the system 2 weeks early because of Black Friday.  Otherwise, you'd probably be wating with the rest of the world. I guess releasing it early is a big "FU" to you.

[NinGurl69 *huggles]

THIS JUST IN,

After some recon and research today I learned that Best Buy doesn't have any expected receipt/release dates for any of the cables they have listed in-stores and online (React, Psyclone, and Nintendo's).  Pelican, Intec, Psyclone/Griffin s-video cable listings are pretty much no-shows at the other major retailers.  If Madcatz' Dec. 20 release for their s-video cables are anything to go by, then it means Nintendo will be the first manufacturer to release S-video cables in the world -- but the first place to get them will be *Japan,* in time for Wii's Japan launch (and it's possible Japan will have in-store component cables before NOA replenishes US component cable stock on Dec. 18).  Wow, things are all over the place.

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Hey, it's been 5 days since my last rant.  I can't take a break?

Just so everyone knows, at this point in time I still don't have a Wii system, and I spent the past couple weeks worrying about exams and lab reports and having no fun.  If I had Wii system, I'd have bigger things to complain about, possibly broken controls.  So i'm just focusing my energy on what I can deal with: games and accessories.  I have 5 unopened games, soon to be 6; 1st party component cables (i snatched them quickly in case there would be a crazy drought like we see now.  i don't have a 480p capable TV, but I wanted them for stupidly high quality video captures down the road); but no s-video cables.

I can't speak for Smash or VG, but I'm VERY partial to S-video cables, for several reasons.
1)  I've had a reliable s-video TV since the early N64 days, and s-video cables were readily available back then and throughout the GameCube's lifetime.  I can't afford a worthy HDTV, so for $2-$10 a set of s-video cables still provides a significant increase in clarity without dreaming of a major expensive TV upgrade (i prefer my cash be spent on games/media).
2)  The video capture hardware on my PC that i've had since 2000 uses s-video.  If I had $ One Thousand Dollars to drop on a new PC with pro-grade hardware and software, i'd move up to component/HD video editing.
3)  I'm nearsighted.  My real-world vision is slightly worse than an RF connection, so I need glasses to drive or read across a classroom.  I prefer to sit "close enough" to a TV and not wear my glasses while watching/playing, so i want all the clarity i can afford.  There's more than enough depth-of-field-blur in the world for me to deal with.

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The first post in this thread is intentionally a shopping guide for S-video cables.  Quite a few s-video questions/requests for recommendations would pop up from time to time on PGC, probably cuz someone wanted a cheap upgrade (but feared 3rd party products) or didn't have component/480p as a realistic option, so I decided to make a centralized resource.  And I intend to maintain it throughout Wii's lifetime.

Just so you know, I probably won't recommend Nintendo's s-video cables at the end of the day anyway, since a handful of 3rd party cables will be superior products, as I saw with the GameCube.  But I am disappointed Nintendo wasn't more prepared than 3rd parties this time around.  Selling the Wii component cables early was a positive thing, but considering how my set merely came with a plastic sleeve, an instruction sheet, a return/replacement sheet, an invoice, and no retail-style packaging whatsoever, I'm inclined to say 1) Nintendo probably didn't expect to sell these things so soon, 2) Nintendo wasn't prepared to get these cables to retail yet despite interviews with execs, 3) these early cables NOA sent out were probably leftovers made throughout the year for the various demonstrations and events, 4) seeing how Matt C. playfully claims to be responsible for prompting Nintendo to release the cables, Nintendo didn't *want* to deal with producing these cables for a while, and I don't like that vibe.

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Someone needs to setup a new "Amazing Deals" thread.  Toys R Us in Citrus Heights, CA is running a "$30 off 3 games" promotion; Monkey Ball, Trauma Center, and Tony Hawk are included in the deal.

[GoldenPhoenix]

I understand the component isn't HD but it still is much better than the standard cable. Nintendo has been screwing people ever since the GC when it comes to 480p by not releasing enough of the components to go around, I was hoping they would rectify that by launching the Wii with them, but nope. In the way of 3rd parties, doesn't it usually take awhile for them to come out with stuff like component cables? I believe with the 360 you only had the 1st party one available at launch. So it is up to NIntendo, not 3rd parties to meet demand with component cables and once again they are acting like they aren't important, I would not be surprised if they have a limited release like GC once again and they will be gone.

[NWR_pap64]

I admit I've used the red/yellow/white cables nearly all of my life, so I've never been lucky to experience S-video or HD gaming. But I am also not a graphics whore or a hardcore tech guy that desires the best quality out of his high tech toys, so my priorities are not the same as you guys.

I already stated that SB and Pro have the right as consumers to be upset. They are right that Nintendo has screwed over not just the S-video cable but the component ones as well. If those cables were my only option. I too would be upset.

But what I am saying is that what is essentially a cable and slightly clearer picture is NOT worth the anger and bitterness seen here. It may be essential to get the best quality possible, but its not like the Wii experience has been severely toned down because of the lack of S-video.

So yeah, it sucks that Nintendo does not have S-video at launch, but at the same time, when much worse issues are around, its not worth being angry and bitter about.

But whatever, I'm an not an uber hardcore "I spent 3000 dollars on my HD entertainment center" guy, so its not like my opinion matters...

[ryancoke]

Anybody remember the old RF switch box for old computers like the C64 and amiga. You'd had to switch it from "TV" to "Game" if you wanted to play Impossible Mission or Jumpman on the ole C64.
The good ole days before HD...

[Smash_Brother]

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Originally posted by: 31 Flavas God... You and Pro should get a room together and have your little hate orgies there. Even Ian doesn't get this retarded in his posts. I eagerly await my componet cables too, but geez settle down.

Honestly, I was making a joke on the matter and I'm not actually upset.

I am still wondering why we have the delay in getting these cables out to start with, though, since S-video cables for the cube were out BEFORE it launched and I remember that because I hooked up my N64 via S-video before using it with the cube.

[NinGurl69 *huggles]

Being angry and bitter superficially via TEXT is a matter of FUN in a forum like this, and the loudness brings attention to the issue.

Does it mean I am ANGRY?  NO, CUZ i don't even have A WII.  WHICH MEANS I'M NOT PLAYING WII GAMES THEREFORE I DON'T REALLY HAVE ANYTHING TO COMPLAIN ABOUT SINCE IT WOULDN'T MAKE A DIFFERENCE WHETHER I GOT THE CABLES OR NOT.

WHY DOES THIS HAVE TO COME ACROSS AS SERIOUS.  THIS IS INTERNET, IS IT NOT

Smash:  Nintendo is still trying to convince you that graphics don't matter.  Not sure why they bothered to make Zelda a pretty game in the first place.  The less you see the less you'll realize you're not getting?

just becuz PGC is DED doesn't mean my sarcasm box isn't checked

[Smash_Brother]

Nonsense. Just look at this 480p screenshot of Wii Sports running on an HD TV.

[31 Flavas]

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Originally posted by: Smash_Brother

I am still wondering why we have the delay in getting these cables out to start with, though, since S-video cables for the cube were out BEFORE it launched and I remember that because I hooked up my N64 via S-video before using it with the cube.

Well, I can't claim to be an expert on the matter, but the N64 and Cube share identical A/V out ports. And geez since that A/V out port was introduced on the SNES... wow I wonder why it's not a surprise that GameCube had S-video cables availible at launch.

More relavant though is that there wasn't this hyper-sensitivity to "high-def" with the cubes launch. I mean, I wasn't hanging out here at the GameCubes launch, so you'll have to fill me in... But were new Cube owners really as hyper-spazticly defaming Nintendo at launch as they're defaming Nintendo now for not having component cables?

I totally get why people want the componet cables, but just I don't get this hyper-spaztic, I NEEDED THEM YESTERDAY reaction. It's totally uncalled for. You'll survive on composite until they arrive.  

[31 Flavas]

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Originally posted by: Professional 666

Smash:  Nintendo is still trying to convince you that graphics don't matter.  Not sure why they bothered to make Zelda a pretty game in the first place.  The less you see the less you'll realize you're not getting?

It's not hard to understand, HD is superficial. You can create a graphically amazing game, Zelda:TP, without HD. Great graphics are not mutually exclusive of Hi-Def. But, i'm obviously not going to win that argument, because of the sensitivity to the subject around here.

[TheYoungerPlumber]

I just wanted to add I share everyone's S-video pain.