Topic: New Smash Brothers Trailer Incoming!

[Kairon]

When you play without items for the longest time, and then one day put them back in, you all of a sudden realize that ITEMS WERE MEANT TO BE PART OF SMASH BROS.

~Carmine M. Red
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[Smash_Brother]

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Originally posted by: zakkiel Perhaps you mean Persian? The British accent is probably unconsciously based on the fact that many Middle Eastern elites were educated at Oxford in the last century, and thus had British accents. If you think about it, it makes no less sense than him speaking English at all.

Good call on the Persian bit, but I expect it was an English accent because Ubi is a Europe-based company.

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I'd pay more attention to the second sentence, if it weren't for the first. Check out the tournament scene, then tell me how balanced the characters are.

Indeed. I was unaware I had an ally in this argument...

Look at the quote in my signature and you'll understand why I was so happy when I found it. I know perfect balance is nigh-impossible to achieve, but I'd be happy if SSBB is a game where even the characters considered top tier can still be beaten by a bottom tier character who has enough skill to overcome them. Right now, if the best Bowser player in the world fought the best Fox player in the world (and we know who that is, Ken, who is the one solely responsible for putting Marth in the top tier), the result would be a 0-5 game with Fox likely not receiving over 50% damage.

And I don't want to hear that "It doesn't matter in regular play what happens in tournaments! LOL!" bullsh*t. I am a better Fox player untrained than I am a Bowser player who I consider my MAIN. Why? Because Fox is FASTER than my opponents' reflexes.

And if you STILL think it doesn't matter, let's not forget that SSBB will be experienced ONLINE, and in the interest of every match not consisting of the same 3-5 characters, we NEED this game to be balanced.

Also, I wouldn't be surprised if Nintendo released updates which fine-tuned the game post release. They made a change to the SSBM releases where version 1.0 and version 1.1 made a change to Bowser's fire breath so they could likewise choose to do something along these lines for SSBB over Wii24.  

[zakkiel]

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When you play without items for the longest time, and then one day put them back in, you all of a sudden realize that ITEMS WERE MEANT TO BE PART OF SMASH BROS.

The game was meant to be played in the way that is fun. I personally can't stand playing without items; I think there is a whole dimension to player skill associated with dominating the level and the incredible rapid-fire chessgame when both characters approach a key item, and each tries to work out how to go for it without getting smacked and losing the shot. There's an incredible richness that they bring to the game. But I would never claim you can use them to balance the game. True, some characters gain more advantages from certain items than others - but this is almost entirely characters already in the top tier or close to it. Insofar as items balance the game, it's because they introduce a randomness that, while it may not override player skill, does obscure character power.