Author Topic: Wii Launch Titles (Read 42586 times)

Kairon · « **Reply #25 on:** August 05, 2006, 12:27:29 PM »

The best remedy for a post-launch drought is an honest-to-god mario game. And NSMB already showed what kind of sales you can do in the traditionally lean times.

~Carmine M. Red
Kairon@aol.com

Spak-Spang · « **Reply #26 on:** August 05, 2006, 12:30:04 PM »

See. I think Nintendo needs to go for the Juggular.

We all complained about not getting franchise games out fast enough so that Nintendo can do new games. If Nintendo has Mario, Metroid, and Zelda out at launch, then Nintendo can start creating new franchises. Next year will have big games throughout no doubt.

Day of Disaster
That Kirby game that disappeared
Smash Brothers Brawl
Animal Crossing Wii

Lets not forget how easy the touch generation type games are to create.

A Wii Brain Age game could be interesting.
Nintendogs should be a nice Wii game as well.

And there are the mystery Wii games that Nintendo hasn't shown us yet. I don't want to wait...I want the games ASAP. And then when I get money available I will buy them. Variety is needed.

Just my two cents.

Ceric · « **Reply #27 on:** August 05, 2006, 12:39:50 PM »

But what if it disappears like in this gen whenn you go to get it later?

Kairon · « **Reply #28 on:** August 05, 2006, 12:52:24 PM »

I personally remember fondly the N64 days when huge Nintendo titles came out every 6 months for the first year. Mario 64 at launch, then Mario Kart 64 a little bit later, then StarFox 64 the august after the N64 came out.

This is why I like the idea of Metroid/Zelda at the Wii launch, then Mario Galaxy at Spring/Summer 2007 to relaunch the Wii during the middle of the year (especially when key titles from PS3 and X360 will probably come out middle 2007 as well), then SSBM cementing Nintendo's 2007 Holiday line-up. And all around that, third party game releases, virtual console goodness, and new quirky games from Nintendo and others.

Looking at the DS, you realize that Nintendo needs a long string of hits (nintendogs -> brain age -> NSMB), rather than one lump sum of gaming.

Besides, looking at the sales of Mario Sunshine, you realize that Mario has long legs and will sell constantly for years no matter when in the calendar year it will launch.

~Carmine M. Red
Kairon@aol.com

GoldenPhoenix · « **Reply #29 on:** August 05, 2006, 03:22:31 PM »

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Originally posted by: Kairon
I personally remember fondly the N64 days when huge Nintendo titles came out every 6 months for the first year. Mario 64 at launch, then Mario Kart 64 a little bit later, then StarFox 64 the august after the N64 came out.

This is why I like the idea of Metroid/Zelda at the Wii launch, then Mario Galaxy at Spring/Summer 2007 to relaunch the Wii during the middle of the year (especially when key titles from PS3 and X360 will probably come out middle 2007 as well), then SSBM cementing Nintendo's 2007 Holiday line-up. And all around that, third party game releases, virtual console goodness, and new quirky games from Nintendo and others.

Looking at the DS, you realize that Nintendo needs a long string of hits (nintendogs -> brain age -> NSMB), rather than one lump sum of gaming.

Besides, looking at the sales of Mario Sunshine, you realize that Mario has long legs and will sell constantly for years no matter when in the calendar year it will launch.

~Carmine M. Red
Kairon@aol.com

I agree completely with Kairon's strategy, they should spread things out over the years. The reason for me providing the Xbox 360 lineup is that it was a quite strong if you go by average rating per game and hype, but they pretty much used up everything at launch. I think the next big game was Ghost Recon, that is something Nintendo does NOT want to do, as of now the launch lineup looks AMAZING without throwing in Mario, so why not save it for a time where it can sell Wiis (as Kairon suggested, a second launch of sorts in summer).

Smash_Brother · « **Reply #30 on:** August 05, 2006, 04:03:50 PM »

I think Nintendo will likely do what they did with the DS: establish the console first via "gamer" games, then start to roll out the non-games like Brain Age and Nintendogs once the Wii is established.

The Wii already has one of the most gamer lineups ever seen for any console, ever: there's enough hardcore gaming action in there to keep any respectable gamer busy for months.

And as we've observed, Mario can kick ass in the summertime. That'd be the best time to launch galaxy: your competitors are typically experiencing a drought and launching a Mario game is a great way to entice those who don't own a Wii to own one. You can basically catch the PS3 and 360 owners when they're bored and vulnerable.

Spak-Spang · « **Reply #31 on:** August 05, 2006, 04:43:43 PM »

I remember Nintendo being mostly critized for that N64 means of launching. I believe a new Nintendo published game should come out at least every other month period. I don't care if Nintendo develops the games or second party or third party. I think we need a new game every 2 months published by them. (I know I am repeating myself.)

And I still believe that Nintendo needs to have a launch that screams not just quality (as in Zelda and Metroid) but quantity as well. And if Mario can be ready by December I want Mario out.

BlkPaladin · « **Reply #32 on:** August 05, 2006, 06:14:58 PM »

Well we will find out about the launch more than likely at GC because that would be the best time to squash the PS3 in Europe by accually throwing Europe a bone once in a while. On another point I don't think it will be over kill. I think Smash Brothers will be the stop gap solution they need in the slower times since that title will not come out until some time in 2007. And the third parties who missed out on the launch will be bringing their games out around then. There was a report that came out either last month or June that said the parties who didn't jump on right away would miss the launch. While I don't think it will be as tragic as they will not capitolise off the Wii, they can act as the filler. Not to mention re-release kings such as Square and possibly Capcom will capitolize on the Virtual Console as it develops.

Requiem · « **Reply #33 on:** August 05, 2006, 10:11:42 PM »

Spak-SPang... As much as I would love for Mario to come out in December, I think it would be a waste to launch it so early. There are better time periods to launch such a game. For example, if Mario and SSBB were to launch in May along with a few non-gamer games, I think it would really boost sales. It could be a second launch of sorts.

Smash_Brother · « **Reply #34 on:** August 05, 2006, 10:27:14 PM »

Yeah, they could go a long way with the Wii during 2007 by ensuring that MG and SSBB appear at optimal points during the year.

Mario could rule the summer and SSBB could rule Christmas.

GoldenPhoenix · « **Reply #35 on:** August 05, 2006, 11:30:05 PM »

My fear with releasing Mario around launch, in addition to a potential drought later on, is that it could take consumer dollars from some of the 3rd party launch window games. Let's face it, people only have so much money and sacrifices will have to be made when it comes to what launch games to get. I'm afraid that even quality 3rd party games will get lost in the shuffle during launch, possibly causing LESS third party support in the future and not more.

BlackNMild2k1 · « **Reply #36 on:** August 06, 2006, 02:11:23 AM »

That is understandable, but the people that buy the Wii at Launch are more than likely going to buy Mario Galaxy, and the people that didn't buy Wii at lauch will probably buy Wii at Christmas for Mario and then buy some other game that came out around that game too. Probably one of the games that they heard about but were waiting to buy until they actually owned the system.

it took me > 5 minutes to type this post - drunk posting FTL

Stimutacs Addict · « **Reply #37 on:** August 06, 2006, 06:30:40 AM »

"people that didn't buy Wii at lauch will probably buy Wii at Christmas for Mario and then buy some other game that came out around that game too. Probably one of the games that they heard about but were waiting to buy until they actually owned the system."

,,, like zelda.

Mario can wait; Nintendo is already going to make me buy WiiSports, WarioWare, Zelda, Excitetruck, and Metroid 3... then there's Red Steel, FarCry, a bunch of VC games, and probably one more title that I haven't thought about. That's $300 worth of software, and I won't even get to play all the third party titles that I want.

ThePerm · « **Reply #38 on:** August 06, 2006, 07:48:04 AM »

how bout mario in march, smash bros in june.

also, why not more sequals? nes had 3 mario games, snes had 2, n64 1, gc 1. They should have more than one out a generation.

Smash_Brother · « **Reply #39 on:** August 06, 2006, 08:38:35 AM »

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Originally posted by: ThePerm They should have more than one out a generation.

True.

It sadly seems that Shiggy doesn't want to make Mario games as often anymore.

Ceric · « **Reply #40 on:** August 06, 2006, 09:33:49 AM »

Mario late Q2 SSBB Late Q3/Q4 and Q1 & 3 new IP's or sequels to less Iconic, like Pikmin. Use that formula for the rest of the lifecycle and you be good.

WalkingTheCow · « **Reply #41 on:** August 06, 2006, 10:57:36 AM »

Nobody's mentioning it's possible release much because it looks to be a highly uninteresting game. . . but you might as well add The Ant Bully to your launch list. It's already released for the current systems and is listed for a November release on Wii.

In fact, about 10 days ago or so I saw a commercial for the game on TV which displayed the Wii logo with the other systems the game is for. It was the first mentioning of the Wii I had seen on television.

UniversalJuan · « **Reply #42 on:** August 06, 2006, 11:58:14 AM »

IF I have to wait longer than Spring 2007 for my Brawl due to the comments posted here, it just won't be pretty...I want Brawl NOW. However, there is a middlegorund. Want to make me wait that long? Playable multiplayer Brawl demo w/ Mario Galaxy purchase...or a free Brawl demo period to soothe the raging Smash Bros. beast within me. I'm near the peak of my Peach game (Just have to get my chain grabbing down better than i currently have it) and I'm ready to start my Pit training!

Stimutacs Addict · « **Reply #43 on:** August 06, 2006, 12:45:16 PM »

I've picked up Link, Ness, and Fox this summer (i know, waited quite a long time to start playing as Fox, but I felt like mastering the God tier character while I wait for Wii), but I don't know what I'm gonna do if I have to wait another 14-15 months!!

GoldenPhoenix · « **Reply #44 on:** August 06, 2006, 01:28:13 PM »

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Originally posted by: Stimutacs Addict
I've picked up Link, Ness, and Fox this summer (i know, waited quite a long time to start playing as Fox, but I felt like mastering the God tier character while I wait for Wii), but I don't know what I'm gonna do if I have to wait another 14-15 months!!

Wait longer?

. Seriously, you will appreciate the game even more the the longer it takes for it to come out, especially since that gives it that much more time for refinement. I remember the agnony waiting for games like Mario 64 or Zelda OOT, but when they came out my appreciation went through the roof.

Kairon · « **Reply #45 on:** August 06, 2006, 04:02:23 PM »

I still believe that we'll see SSBB for Fall 2007.

~Carmine M. Red
Kairon@aol.com

Dirk Temporo · « **Reply #46 on:** August 06, 2006, 06:52:31 PM »

I'd still like to believe that we'll see SSBB Q1/Q2 of 2007.

pirateluigi · « **Reply #47 on:** August 06, 2006, 09:33:20 PM »

Personally, I would like Mario Galaxy just before Christmas, and Smash Bros to show up when stocks of the Wiis start building up again after the initial sellout(s). This way, there will be three strong pushes for the system, which should build up a good user base. Plus, when Smash Bros comes out, the late-comer third parties should be ready for their first batch of games. I really would hate to see Nintendo holding back games and only releasing two major games per year. Based off of previous succesful systems, I want to see two-three Mario games, two Metroids, two-three Zeldas, and a bunch of new IPs. Besides, if Project HAMMER turns out well, it can really make a push when released alongside Mario or SSBB.

Nephilim · « **Reply #48 on:** August 06, 2006, 10:13:41 PM »

I agree with pirateluigi, I think the fanboy view of streching games and 1 a gen is the wrong route
with the abilty to send more levels and updates, there is NO reason for nintendo push back a game for 6months to polish like we have had to put up with with n64 and gamecube.
Release the games as the finished, and then make a new one

pushing back mario for 6-12months when its finished is just stupid
people like sequals, if there quality games then people will buy them

Requiem · « **Reply #49 on:** August 06, 2006, 10:18:38 PM »

Seriously, guys....

You cannot expect Nintendo to release 8 or so major games this console cycle. You refer to the old days, but you musn't forget how easy it was to develope a game back then. Sure it still took time, but now-a-days it doesn't even compare.

That said, I do expect Nintendo to fund or outsource many titles, simply because they seem to have an emperialistic view these days. Their "non-gamer" motif is proof in of itself. Also, with the VC in effect, new poorly funded companies will actually have a chance to grow. Plus, it wouldn't surpise me if Nintendo used that feature as a "screen" for talented, yet vaible game studios. Meaning more games in the end for us.

And their "non-gamer" attitude will breed even more games. If you think of it as countries, the "non-gamer" world is like an uncharted hemisphere far bigger than the game-world knows now. If Nintendo can tough it out for a couple of years, they can herd enough of the population to make "non-gamer" games an advantagious market to big companies other than themselves. Essentially making "New games for new people." (Nintendo, if your reading...you can have that slogan)

This might bring in a great deal of marketshare allowing Nintendo to garner far greater support than has been seen in a good while. Yet, they could still draw-in companies who want to make traditional games with: A lower admission fee; An innovative controller (which allows for even small companies to be taken seriously; f.g. Nibris); And (hopefully) a larger marketshare.

Ahh...yeah. /rant

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Author Topic: Wii Launch Titles (Read 42586 times)