Author Topic: Sony getting hit Hard lately (Read 858956 times)

SixthAngel · « **Reply #375 on:** September 20, 2006, 08:23:59 PM »

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Originally posted by: Kairon
So... does this mean that Europe ISN'T getting shafted?

~Carmine M. Red
Kairon@aol.com

Don't worry, most of the production problems probably won't be ironed out by March so Europe will have the same experience as NA and won't feel even more left out then they already do.

Athrun Zala · « **Reply #376 on:** September 21, 2006, 07:14:51 AM »

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Originally posted by: Kairon
This is Sony but... THIS is SONY!

exactly why I would believe that it could have a 50% failure rate....

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Originally posted by: SixthAngelDon't worry, most of the production problems probably won't be ironed out by March so Europe will have the same experience as NA and won't feel even more left out then they already do.

lol, since the PS3 is more complex than the PS2, I believe they'll never iron it out

jasonditz · « **Reply #377 on:** September 21, 2006, 07:36:03 AM »

Depends what you mean by "failure rate", all consoles fail eventually (except my Genesis, which mysteriously is indestructable). The later models of the system tend to last a lot longer than the early models do, and I would expect the PS3, with it's very high end components, to be particularly succeptable to this. Microsoft has been having lots of trouble in this regard as well. Buying a launch console is risky, you have to expect a higher chance that it will need replacing quickly... when the cost of entry is $600, I don't know if I'd be too eager to get one until I was sure all the bugs are worked out.

WuTangTurtle · « **Reply #378 on:** September 21, 2006, 11:56:57 AM »

You know its funny I've gotten all my systems relatively on launch day and all my Nintendo Hardwares tend to be great. My GBASP survived a rainstorm (whereas my cellphone didn't), my original GBA has survived a handful of dropping on hard surfaces including concrete, and my NES, N64, Dreamcast, & GCN are still hooked up and ready to play. However my XBOX (1st & 2nd) and PS2 never lived past a year.

lol, Sony will tell you that it is perfectly normal that the game displays a few blotched dots on your screen, and you should wait 6 months and it should correct itself.

jasonditz · « **Reply #379 on:** September 21, 2006, 12:19:24 PM »

God, you have a near-launch NES that still works? I've got four broken NESes in my basement now.

I had bad luck with my post-Genesis Sega stuff too... my Saturn's cartridge slot is busted, and neither of my Dreamcasts are working anymore.

couchmonkey · « **Reply #380 on:** September 22, 2006, 08:08:11 AM »

All of my Nintendos are in fine working condition. Got my NES around new year 1990, but most others were within a few months of launch.

WuTangTurtle · « **Reply #381 on:** September 22, 2006, 06:05:57 PM »

http://cache.kotaku.com/assets/resources/2006/09/powered_by_namco.jpg

Apparently Sony's Hardware cooling system is very very highly advance....

KDR_11k · « **Reply #382 on:** September 22, 2006, 11:41:46 PM »

If this is true Sony is toast.

Summary: GT HD will come in two editions, classic and premium, the former comes without any cars or tracks, the latter includes 30 cars and two tracks. You have to download those at 100-200 JPY per car and 200-500 JPY per track.

This is just too insane to be real and I think it's just an attempt to use the wave of negative press Sony is getting to publish some untrue stories and spread anti-microtransaction sentiment (not that that's a bad thing, mind you) but stranger things have happened.

Luigi Dude · « **Reply #383 on:** September 23, 2006, 02:01:58 PM »

If that story is indeed true then Sony has reached a new level of low. You'll be forced to spend hundreds of dollars just to unlock most of the content in just one game.

Arbok · « **Reply #384 on:** September 23, 2006, 03:38:44 PM »

If that is true, I think Sony has pretty much just given up at this point and are ready to milk their hardcore fans for all they are worth on the way out.

I really can't see that coming to pass, though, or if it does at least failing hard on the GT series and never (hopefully) be attempted again.

Ceric · « **Reply #385 on:** September 23, 2006, 06:12:02 PM »

I could see being able to buy cars for GT if you wanted to. Or special parts for cars. But not all and I would want most but newly designed ones being able to get through traditional Means.

Oh, on a side note for cooling. If the PS3 used a Peltier cooling device to cool the processor I would finally find something to really love about the thing. In fact I hope the Wii does. Darn, one side being a jet engine.

The downside is that if there is any liquid in between it and the chip it will damage it. But if you manufacture the chip it already attached you could have tighter tolerance and more control conditions then what is normally achieved at home. It would still up the failure rate higher then a traditional fan setup.

wandering · « **Reply #386 on:** September 23, 2006, 06:28:02 PM »

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If that is true, I think Sony has pretty much just given up at this point and are ready to milk their hardcore fans for all they are worth on the way out.

Giving up on everyone but hardcore fans at launch isn't really giving up at all...

Arbok · « **Reply #387 on:** September 23, 2006, 09:22:07 PM »

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Giving up on everyone but hardcore fans at launch isn't really giving up at all...

That would assume that GT would be a launch only title, which it won't, so others will have the chance to feel the burn on it as well... again, taking this news to heart.

wandering · « **Reply #388 on:** September 23, 2006, 09:28:06 PM »

But if it failed, they'd still have GT4 or whatever to fall back on.

stevey · « **Reply #389 on:** September 24, 2006, 10:09:29 AM »

lol, I wounder if there be a "ps3 classic" where you buy it and all you get is an empty box and have to buy each of it's parts and put it together yourself

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A complete copy of the game will cost gamers somewhere between $426.50 and $975, and that's without factoring in whatever Sony decides to charge for the menus (since that's all you'll get with GT HD: Classic).

hahahaha sony game cost more than the system!!!

burn! $ony burn!

Spak-Spang · « **Reply #390 on:** September 24, 2006, 01:29:01 PM »

I like the idea of buying new content. And the prices seem fair for cars. But I am willing to bet that those descriptions of the two games are completely bogus.

I could see a Core version with like 25-50 cars and 12 tracks. Then a Premium version of the game with 75-100 cars with 24 Tracks included.

You would have to decide if you wanted to be a completist or not. But this way you wouldn't have to buy a new version in a few years.

KDR_11k · « **Reply #391 on:** September 24, 2006, 09:07:01 PM »

You would have to decide if you wanted to be a completist or not. But this way you wouldn't have to buy a new version in a few years.

The flaw in your logic is that releasing a new version a few years later and ceasing support for the current version forces you to buy all your cars again. Who'd miss that profit opportunity?

capamerica · « **Reply #392 on:** September 25, 2006, 09:45:37 AM »

more bad news, PS3 games will be between ¥8,800 ($75 USD) and ¥9,800 ($85 USD) in Japan at least.

Your avarage Xbox360 and Wii games won't be anwhere near as expencive as the PS3 games. Nintendo is keeping current generation prices and MS is just $10 more then this gen.

Hocotate · « **Reply #393 on:** September 25, 2006, 10:15:47 AM »

If these are true Sony is offically done. It's amazing how Sony has screwed the PS3 over in such a huge mess of doom.

Khushrenada · « **Reply #394 on:** September 25, 2006, 10:25:06 AM »

Yeah, that is just too expensive, I mean, that's more than like a bill for satellite TV with movie channels. That will kill the software ratio.

Getting back to GT though, I know a couple people and they were talking about this news yesterday. One is really pro-Sony. I don't know much about the other person but I knowhe seems to favor the Xbox/Sony content. Anyways, they seemed rather positive about the nes. The pro-Sony person was saying that he likes the idea because he doesn't play with every vehicle anyways. This way you only pay for what you want. The other person agreed with him on that idea and seemed to think it was a really neat concept.

I don't know. You hear news like this and you'd think that it should really kill momentum of the PS3 and yet, people still seemed excited about it. The truth is, it might actually do ok. I could see this being a real status symbol. That's why I hope this news about expensive game sis true. Maybe then, with an expensive console and expensive games will people finally stop and think that maybe it isn't worth it after all.

couchmonkey · « **Reply #395 on:** September 25, 2006, 10:40:45 AM »

I've heard the microtransaction news (rumour?) but while I personally consider it shameful, I can totally see where a lot of people won't care much. Nobody's forcing them to buy the game, and even in the worst case scenario where everyone hated this set-up, Sony could write it off as an experiment.

Not good news, but Sony's had worse lately.

Athrun Zala · « **Reply #396 on:** September 25, 2006, 10:51:55 AM »

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Sony SUCKS

seriously, two versions of GT one more expensive than the other?
the 2 jobs thing to afford a PS3 was a complete lie....you need like 5 :S

IceCold · « **Reply #397 on:** September 25, 2006, 08:39:22 PM »

For anyone holding out in hopes that there would be a price cut on the 20GB PS3 in North America too, it won't be happening..

SixthAngel · « **Reply #398 on:** September 25, 2006, 09:09:24 PM »

If games really cost that much too noone but the most hardcore are going to buy the ps3. I'm having enough trouble saving money for the Wii because I have other more important things in life I need to spend money on.

KDR_11k · « **Reply #399 on:** September 25, 2006, 09:22:24 PM »

'sup NEOGEO?

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