Author Topic: Sony getting hit Hard lately (Read 868673 times)

BigJim · « **Reply #275 on:** September 06, 2006, 07:19:51 AM »

I'm still baffled by that 100K Japanese launch. That's such a token number it's ridiculous. They might as well delay in that country too.

This demonstrates once and for all that Sony primarily sees the PS3 as a BRD player first, and a console 2nd. They are just trying to cut off HD-DVD at the nads. The beast serves too many masters, and this is what happens.

The BRD warning with movies is most likely the same as the PS2's DVD playback. The DVD player was/is basically software-run, as opposed to having dedicated hardware acceleration. So some DVDs looked like crap, some didn't operate at all. Sounds like they might get a piss-poor BRD player. But I guess when you pay only $600 instead of $1000, you "get" what you pay for.

Ceric · « **Reply #276 on:** September 06, 2006, 07:20:26 AM »

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I think that "might not play" notice is more of a legal CYA so noone comes complaining when some old disc won't run. Maybe some jerk at the MPAA will decide to add another copy restriction measure to BRD movies and "accidentally" break PS3 compatibility in the process.

There fixed.

Athrun Zala · « **Reply #277 on:** September 06, 2006, 07:32:47 AM »

LOLOLOLOLOL

500000 for the "worldwide" launch???
like, 1/4th of their original prediction?

Sony sucks

seems like Sega got a great opponent for WORST DECISIONS EVER MADE AWARD

Ceric · « **Reply #278 on:** September 06, 2006, 07:50:39 AM »

Nothing but the truth.

couchmonkey · « **Reply #279 on:** September 06, 2006, 08:08:15 AM »

...thought about this a bit more. I think Sony probably does have to try to launch in both Japan and America, to avoid ticking off big western or Japanese devs. Do you really want to tell EA the system they've been hacking away on for months isn't going to be ready in time for Christmas?

Having said that, I agree with BigJim, the 100K launch is so tiny. I would try to split the launch numbers a little more evenly. They're both going to sell out anyway, why not split 200/300, or even 150/350? Of course, Sony may have some business strategy we don't even know about...maybe North American investors are playing into the decision and Sony feels a need to have big sales numbers to show them, or something like that.

Athrun Zala · « **Reply #280 on:** September 06, 2006, 08:15:25 AM »

JonLeung · « **Reply #281 on:** September 06, 2006, 09:14:03 AM »

No, it doesn't. So why do they look happy about it?

Ian Sane · « **Reply #282 on:** September 06, 2006, 09:53:50 AM »

Something that doesn't print money isn't so bad. I mean nothing I own prints money and I'm cool with that. The PS3 DESTROYS money and that's what is worth crying over. The pic should have money being sucked into it and shredded to pieces.

GoldenPhoenix · « **Reply #283 on:** September 06, 2006, 02:24:02 PM »

Poor Sony, I am almost feeling sorry for them. ALMOST

decoyman · « **Reply #284 on:** September 06, 2006, 02:58:29 PM »

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Something that doesn't print money isn't so bad. I mean nothing I own prints money and I'm cool with that. The PS3 DESTROYS money and that's what is worth crying over. The pic should have money being sucked into it and shredded to pieces.

IceCold · « **Reply #285 on:** September 06, 2006, 03:33:36 PM »

Oh my, what a huge hole they've dug themselves into.. As couch mentioned, this will infuriate third parties.. Imagine having a launch game that can only reach, at most, 500,000 people. And a large percentage of these people won't even buy that game, so the sales will be horrible. Then, when Sony finally gets some more shipments in, there will be new games that overshadow the launch ones.. Ugly.

TrueNerd · « **Reply #286 on:** September 06, 2006, 09:05:07 PM »

It's all karma baby. Next generation doesn't start until we say it does, We didn't build the PS3 based on a sparkling innovation, the PS3 is actually too cheap, the PS3 is a computer, insert arrogant quote here, etc, have all lead to Sony f*cking this up. And made it that much sweeter if you ask me.

Choke on it, Sony.

IceCold · « **Reply #287 on:** September 06, 2006, 09:24:29 PM »

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And causes shares in game to drop by 7%. Game must be really happy with Sony!

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The system will be still be launched in the US and Japan in November, but has run-up against production problems in Europe. Shares in Game fell 6p to 85p.

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And all the while, Nintendo's stock has skyrocketed - doubled in just a year.. Man, I knew I should have bought some

Hocotate · « **Reply #288 on:** September 06, 2006, 11:22:43 PM »

I've been debating with a few anti-Nintendo folks since before E3 05' at a small msg board... Funny how they suddenly no longer wish to debate lol. Nintendo has already won. With each passing week there is more and more negative news about Sony, and there is no sign of it slowing. Sweet victory

Mario · « **Reply #289 on:** September 07, 2006, 12:00:37 AM »

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And causes shares in game to drop by 7%. Game must be really happy with Sony!

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The system will be still be launched in the US and Japan in November, but has run-up against production problems in Europe. Shares in Game fell 6p to 85p.

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And all the while, Nintendo's stock has skyrocketed - doubled in just a year.. Man, I knew I should have bought some

Same, If I knew how I would have bought heaps back in 2004 when it would had to have been at it's lowest.

nitsu niflheim · « **Reply #290 on:** September 07, 2006, 04:02:18 AM »

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Now I wonder if the blu-ray movie issue is going to be with certain movies or certain hardware. It could be that a standard hasn't been set with the recording format and some studios titles won't work. I remember they had that problem with the PS2, wasn't it some Disney movies couldn't play or something like that?

Now would be the perfect time for Xbox to release the HD-DVD add on for the 360....massive damage indeed!

I couldn't get Confessions of a Teen-age Drama Queen to play on my PS2. The disc had like two versions on it Full Screen and Wide Screen and I couldn't select either so the disc just stayed at the selection screen. So I just returned the DVD back downstairs with all the other and never got to watch the movie at all.

I had a problem with Day of the Dead DVD (not disney, but...). Whenever I trued to watch it, it would automatically start to play with the commentary on and it was a huge hassel to get the damn thing to not play with the movie. I don't know if that was because I was watching it on my PS2 or just a disc glitch.

Aussiedude · « **Reply #291 on:** September 07, 2006, 04:49:23 AM »

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I couldn't get Confessions of a Teen-age Drama Queen to play on my PS2

Well at least the PS2 has some enduring qualities

JonLeung · « **Reply #292 on:** September 07, 2006, 04:51:43 AM »

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It's all karma baby. Next generation doesn't start until we say it does, We didn't build the PS3 based on a sparkling innovation, the PS3 is actually too cheap, the PS3 is a computer, insert arrogant quote here, etc, have all lead to Sony f*cking this up. And made it that much sweeter if you ask me.

Choke on it, Sony.

Karma is a wonderful thing, isn't it? Perhaps it is involved. I can kind of understand them being arrogant, but apparently arrogant AND stupid? Arrogance can't possibly lead to so many bad decisions and bad luck that lead to production problems that lead to constant delays that lead to developer support dropping that lead to consumer distaste that could very well possibly lead to them falling from #1. Or can it? Perhaps I speak too soon. Perhaps the PS3 will be the greatest thing EVER. But it certainly looks like it would take a miracle for that to happen. Or, perhaps, quite a few miracles. I'm sure they can market the thing well - or at least a lot - but if the product is as shoddy as everyone thinks it is now, it's certainly not going to be quite the hype machine when word-of-mouth keeps killing it.

At the same time, it would take a lot of screw-ups on Nintendo's part to deflate Wii hype now. But we all knew that.

Aussiedude · « **Reply #293 on:** September 07, 2006, 04:56:07 AM »

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And causes shares in game to drop by 7%. Game must be really happy with Sony!

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The system will be still be launched in the US and Japan in November, but has run-up against production problems in Europe. Shares in Game fell 6p to 85p.

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And all the while, Nintendo's stock has skyrocketed - doubled in just a year.. Man, I knew I should have bought some

Same, If I knew how I would have bought heaps back in 2004 when it would had to have been at it's lowest.

I believe Nintendo is also listed on the NYSE, so you could buy it via comsec online (they charge about $300 AUD annually plus normal buy/sell fees however for managing NYSE transactions).

Alternatively you can get it via a local stock broker, not sure of the fees for this.

couchmonkey · « **Reply #294 on:** September 07, 2006, 05:35:36 AM »

I've got my Nintendo stocks~ I think there's still time to buy them, I believe Nintendo will continue to go up through this Christmas, at least. After that, it depends on what happens, but I'm thinking it will stay very healthy through next year.

KDR_11k · « **Reply #295 on:** September 07, 2006, 07:51:09 AM »

Do you really want to tell EA the system they've been hacking away on for months isn't going to be ready in time for Christmas?

It isn't going to be ready for Christmas in Europe.

Kairon · « **Reply #296 on:** September 07, 2006, 07:56:45 AM »

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WuTangTurtle · « **Reply #297 on:** September 07, 2006, 09:25:12 AM »

What is really gonna bother EA is that their PS3 version of all its sports games which i assume they have been working hard on will automatically have next to nothing sales compared to the xbox 360 and PS2 and yes even the gamecube versions sales.

I bet EA's PSP games would even sale better than the PS3 counterparts......thats how bad Sony has it due to its shipment fiasco, and it is so much worse for Japan. I bet you anything Japanese gamers are truly pissed off right about now.

Smash_Brother · « **Reply #298 on:** September 07, 2006, 09:26:00 AM »

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Originally posted by: BigJim "In the U.S., about 400,000 PlayStation 3 machines will be available when they go on sale Nov. 17. About 100,000 will be available on the Nov. 11 Japan launch date."

Game over, man...game...f*cking...over.

It will literally be impossible for the PS3 to do better than the Wii. Just let that factoid soak in for a bit...

I'm sure Nintendo will have well over 500k in Wiiorders when launch comes.

KDR_11k · « **Reply #299 on:** September 07, 2006, 09:33:59 AM »

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