Author Topic: Sony getting hit Hard lately (Read 869201 times)

Kairon · « **Reply #250 on:** September 06, 2006, 03:52:57 AM »

100,000 in Japan?!?!?!?!

...Does ANYONE WANT THE JAPANESE MARKET AT ALL?!?!?!

Guys, get your PS3 pre-orders in NOW. This is gonna be ugly.

~Carmine M. Red
Kairon@aol.com

Mario · « **Reply #251 on:** September 06, 2006, 03:54:16 AM »

I'd imagine it's too late to grab one at launch now. Unless i'm grossly overestimating demand.

Wouldn't it be funny if they DIDN'T sell out?

Kairon · « **Reply #252 on:** September 06, 2006, 04:04:18 AM »

What I'm worried about is two things:

1. Third-party game sales

2. Hardware failure rates

Oh man... and Sony's just left Japan wide open. Only 100,000 units at launch? That would mean the XBox 360 would have a higher install base! Is like... the way completely clear for Nintendo to completely be the only real Next-Gen contender in Japan?!?!?!

~Carmine M. Red
Kairon@aol.com

Spak-Spang · « **Reply #253 on:** September 06, 2006, 04:11:38 AM »

Wow. So Sony is expecting 500,000 initial units for launching in both Japan and US.

They must really think the US market is too important to botch up because they are giving the US more 3/4 of the initial launch units. Sony must have decided the US market is too dangerous to lose. But at this point, Nintendo should have about 1 million unit lead on Sony in US and a 2 million unit lead on Sony in Japan. OUCH!!!

The only thing that makes those numbers make any sense is if Sony will have 2 or 3 more shipments before the Holiday Season is over. Perhaps Sony can give Japan most of the second shipments to even out the launch numbers.

Kairon · « **Reply #254 on:** September 06, 2006, 04:22:09 AM »

To put into perspective, on launch DAY Microsoft had fewer units.

But the thing is, MS was able to launch against no competition and they were able to deliver weekly/biweekly shipments until the new year.

Hmmm.... oh yeah, It really is pragmatic to put more units in the USA. MS is no threat in Japan and they're gonna buy the Wii anyways. Concentrate on America where the largest most high-profile market is and where MS stands to make some serious inroads.

~Carmine M. Red
Kairon@aol.com

Artimus · « **Reply #255 on:** September 06, 2006, 04:35:59 AM »

I would be worried that my system could actually fail to top the Japanese hardware charts on in its first week.

Nintendo needs to release Pokemon Diamond the same week as the PS3 (or any other major profile game) along with a new colour and the PS3 would lose to a two year old handheld. LMAO. Heck, it'll likely lose to the Wii depending on timing and supplies!

KDR_11k · « **Reply #256 on:** September 06, 2006, 04:42:15 AM »

Sony is leaving a huge opening. Can Microsoft use this weak point to hit them for MASSIVE DAMAGE?

Kairon · « **Reply #257 on:** September 06, 2006, 04:51:56 AM »

Screw the Japan showboating, launch in Europe already!

This would be devastatingly distressing if Nintendo delayed the Wii in Europe as well. That would suck.

Oh, and Nintendo, you know how you were rumored to be upping numbers to 5.5 mil this calendar year? Better make that 8.

~Carmine M. Red
Kairon@aol.com

Flames_of_chaos · « **Reply #258 on:** September 06, 2006, 04:52:18 AM »

And now to add insult to injury in Sony's PS3 site:

When asked "Can I still play my PS2 games, etc... on PS3?", and it gives the answer and then at the bottom in fine print it says this, and I quote:
"* Some PlayStation 2 or PlayStation format software titles may perform differently on this system than they do on PlayStation 2 or PlayStationsystems, or may not perform properly on this system. In rare instances,CDs, DVDs, Blu-ray discs and other media may not operate properly onthe PS3 system. This is primarily due to variations in the manufacturing process or encoding of the software.*"

Spak-Spang · « **Reply #259 on:** September 06, 2006, 05:02:55 AM »

What I found striking about that is the comment on Blu-ray discs. So does that mean that your PS3 may not be able to play the Blu-ray Movies, one of Sony's biggest guns for the system. YES, YES IT DOES.

My prediction is that the $600 systems are the only ones that truly work properly, and the $500 systems are being cheaply manufactored to help with price issues. Just like the Xbox 360 if you try to save money and by the cheaper system you are screwing yourself in the long run.

Donutt007 · « **Reply #260 on:** September 06, 2006, 05:16:12 AM »

So now the PS3 is a "Bargin" for a Blu-ray player, but might not play Blu-ray titles??? On the other hand, the shortage makes me want to buy one and sell it on e-bay to all those sad sony fanboys

capamerica · « **Reply #261 on:** September 06, 2006, 05:24:23 AM »

Sony fumbles the ball, who will rush in and grab it, Microsoft or Nintendo?

Seriously if MS was looking for a good time to steal market share away from Sony in Japan this is the time.

Aussiedude · « **Reply #262 on:** September 06, 2006, 05:53:43 AM »

He hopes it will play Blue Ray movies as well

JonLeung · « **Reply #263 on:** September 06, 2006, 05:56:50 AM »

If I did my math right, if they have exactly 400000 units for North America, which probably means just the US and Canada, and going by Wikipedia's population counts for those countries, if they randomly handed out PS3s, you would have a 1 in 826.2025 (or 0.121%) chance of getting one. In Japan it's even worse (something like 1 in 1247)! If you have one, you might be popular...at least with people who still want to even try out the PS3 this year.

And, hey, Lord_die_seis! I posted that same thing like 13 posts before you did (last night, even) and no one responded! >_<

Spak-Spang · « **Reply #264 on:** September 06, 2006, 06:07:29 AM »

When I read the reason for the PS3 shortage...it became a much more grim scenero for Sony.

"The blue laser diode is a key component of the PS3's Blu-Ray drive and the shortage is expected to affect other Blu-Ray products in Sony's line-up, not just PlayStation 3." Source: IGN

Sony won't be able to supply a large second shipment of PS3s because they are already limited resources that must be shared among all Blue-Ray products. This means that those numbers won't be backed up with a steady supply of new shipments, and could very easily be final numbers for the entire holiday season. (I doubt it will be final numbers, but I don't see them increasing drastically.)

I predict final units available for Japan and US will be:

US: 700,000
Japan: 500,000

Aussiedude · « **Reply #265 on:** September 06, 2006, 06:12:07 AM »

Did Nintendo know this was coming? Perhaps they have increased production of Wii even more which may be why they cant up DS-Lite production any any more (even to satisfy Mario

).

Spak-Spang · « **Reply #266 on:** September 06, 2006, 06:16:53 AM »

Another question. Are those numbers 400,000 units and 100,000 units going to be split evenly between the two versions of the PS3 system?

Or will only the $600 system be available? Or only the $500 system?

If the numbers are split bad for those who want to spend the money to get the better model, or those who needed to save $100, but can't because those units already sold out.

I would say if they only had the $600 system it would be bad for many deciding not to buy it...however, those units available are so low, they almost have to sell out.

couchmonkey · « **Reply #267 on:** September 06, 2006, 06:18:34 AM »

AH HA HA HA HA HA HA. Sony.

This is a fiasco and a half. On the disc reading things: It's probably Sony doing it's best to cover it's arse on early manufacturing issues. Backwards compatability in particular is never perfect, even on Nintendo's Gameboy line. But I agree that the possbility that it will f*** up on Blu-Ray movies is ridiculous. One more reason to wait a year to buy your PS3.

Japan is left wide-open and the U.S. is still poorly covered...tsk. Sony was right to delay some launch, in fact I'm beginning to think it should have delayed all but the American or Japanese launch...can't decide which...you're either letting Nintendo take Japan or Microsoft take North America. I'm going to argue Japan, because without the Japanese devs, Sony has practically nothing. Grand Theft Auto has already been lost to Xbox 360 and Sony's other western products like Jak seem to be good games, but not big blockbusters.

I think it will be fully possible to get a handful of PS3s at Wal-Marts around here on launch day, and I intend to do so and sell them all to casual gamers that don't know what's up.

Edit: If Sony's problem is partially due to sharing lasers among various units, I would seriously consider shorting the standalone players in favour of PS3. Everyone knows PS3 could sell 2-3 million in NA and Japan this year if they were available, and PS3 plays Blu-Ray without risking Sony's important video game business.

Aussiedude · « **Reply #268 on:** September 06, 2006, 06:23:01 AM »

And causes shares in game to drop by 7%. Game must be really happy with Sony!

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The system will be still be launched in the US and Japan in November, but has run-up against production problems in Europe. Shares in Game fell 6p to 85p.

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couchmonkey · « **Reply #269 on:** September 06, 2006, 06:27:23 AM »

I'm thinking those guys will recover...this is Sony's problem, and while it will hurt the industry in general, I'm sure 360, Wii and DS can pick up the slack.

Aussiedude · « **Reply #270 on:** September 06, 2006, 06:33:42 AM »

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Originally posted by: couchmonkey
I'm thinking those guys will recover...this is Sony's problem, and while it will hurt the industry in general, I'm sure 360, Wii and DS can pick up the slack.

I need to visit EB tomorrow to transfer my PS3 preorder deposit to either my Wii preorder or a black DS-Lite. I'd Like a 360 but refuse to get one with the current reliability and heat issues, maybe when they release the redesigned unit next year.

Louieturkey · « **Reply #271 on:** September 06, 2006, 06:39:01 AM »

I for one will be lining up to buy one early...so I can go sell it on ebay and use that money to fund my Wii and games and possibly my friend's Wii.

Donutt007 · « **Reply #272 on:** September 06, 2006, 06:39:47 AM »

Now I wonder if the blu-ray movie issue is going to be with certain movies or certain hardware. It could be that a standard hasn't been set with the recording format and some studios titles won't work. I remember they had that problem with the PS2, wasn't it some Disney movies couldn't play or something like that?

Now would be the perfect time for Xbox to release the HD-DVD add on for the 360....massive damage indeed!

KDR_11k · « **Reply #273 on:** September 06, 2006, 07:07:02 AM »

I think that "might not play" notice is more of a legal CYA so noone comes complaining when some old disc won't run. Maybe some jerk at the MPAA will decide to add another copy restriction measure to BRD movies and accidentally break PS3 compatibility in the process.

NinGurl69 *huggles · « **Reply #274 on:** September 06, 2006, 07:17:36 AM »

SWIFT JUSTICE.

Hey, those 400,000 PS3's will go IMMEDIATELY to all the winners of those "FREE PS3 CONGRATS YOU'RE A WINNER" emails.

NONE OF YU WILL FIND A PS3 IN STORES.

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