Topic: Sony getting hit Hard lately

[Ceric]

Wow.  This year is just sort of crazy it seems.  This type of stuff will only make it harder to camp for a Wii.

lol.  On news.google.com they have an article up that says, "Indepth review of the PS3"  and the picture besides it is as cute japaneses girl looking excitely at the Wii.

[odilon]

IGN is reporting that Sony is losing quite a bit of money on the PS3 (obviously).  Specifically, $306.85 on the 20 GB version and $241.35 on the 60GB version.  Combine these numbers with the sales totals from the Japanese launch and...

20 GB - $11,005,175.25
60 GB - $11,047,554.90
Total - $ 22,052,730.15

...Sony lost over $22 million dollars on one night.

[Ceric]

"The launch was successful we are in the hole"

[wandering]

Man shot waiting to buy PS3

What. The. Hell. The only reason I'm still considering waiting in line for the Wii is that I know I'll be inside, with lots of lights and cameras.

edit: oh, looks like I'm late.

[GoldenPhoenix]

Well guys after 24 hrs of line sitting I have came up empty handed (I was 31 st in line), not that HUGE of a deal besides the long, boring and sometimes miserable night, since I do have a preordered one. BTW at this particular best buy I guess people were told to not line up until 8am which I abided by but there was a line there, and I guess this one tent had close to 20 people in it some of which didn't come until LATEr, in fact they set out chairs and left for up to 6 hrs and still got their spots back even when some were toughing it out in the cold. Anytime they were questioned they would play the numbers game.

BTW they had 28 but we heard they may be getting a morning shipment with 4 more since 32 were ordered, guess that was false. To make matters worse the best buy manager was a butthead, he wouldn't even let the people in line go into the store to either buy sometime or use the bathroom (we had to go to a burger king about a half a mile away)

[vudu]

That really sucks, VG.  They didn't give you the option of a raincheck?  I would be really pissed off if that happened to me.

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this one tent had close to 20 people in it

For some reason I just imagined setting up a tent over a manhole and having people sneak into the sewers a half mile away an hour before the store opens and then coming up and out of the tent and pretending they were there the whole time.  That would be pretty funny.

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in fact they set out chairs and left for up to 6 hrs and still got their spots back even when some were toughing it out in the cold. Anytime they were questioned they would play the numbers game.

That's really really crappy.  Did the manager of the store know about this?  If so, he shouldn't have let them get away with that.  I've heard reports that you could leave the line for like a half hour but not six flipping hours.  Most places I heard about wouldn't let you leave the line unless you had a stand-in.

[GoldenPhoenix]

The lack of rainchecks was quite crappy of them, especially for those of us that were there for 24hrs and had heard they were supposed to get 4 more units in! In regards to the tent, well everyone was great (besides them) in that they did allow you to leave whether it was to the bathroom, get a quick bite to eat or even to warm up in the car.

When the managers were told about the tent people driving in 6 hrs later and jumping to the head of the line to be with their family (kids were given money too for PS3s) they basically told us tough, and caused one of the campers made an unofficial list of placement and names (which was accepted as official when it was all said and done) but it was after the harm was already done by the tent people. When the "tent people" (sounds like a great horror movie) were confronted originally they refused to do a list and basically used the numbers game to force those of us not in the group to back down. They did finally agree, but that was after they had their blatant attempt to cheat was already done. Management was rude and did not seem to care one bit what was happening (like I said they told us all we could not even use their rest room or go in the store at all even if we bought something). So yeah, I just hope things are different for Wii!

[JonLeung]

I suppose that's one thing good about the Wii launching two days after the PS3...any issues a store has with midnight launches and first-day sales they'll be ready for when the Wii comes.  And the store employees would know how to handle campers and lines and any problems since they'd have seen it all just two days prior.  Not that there should be problems, but game console launches don't come every day.

Why is it that with that interview with the Sony rep he says that they won't ever give out official launch sales numbers?  What, they've lost confidence now?

Though even if the PS3 was the greatest thing in the world (yeah, right... >_> ) first-day sales would be hampered by the high price, most people would wait anyway.

[KDR_11k]

I can't even imagine being a parent who has promised their kid a PS3 for Christmas.

I'd introduce my kid to the concept of not being able to keep promises. I'd have told him I couldn't fulfill that promise the moment they announced the price. Because that's what my parents would have done.

As for Sony PS3, I think it will do good, and later in its lifespan it will actually do GREAT. Once Sony can get its price down I think the system will take off, and as such the system will have a strong life of 5-6 years perhaps even 6-7 years. By that time though Microsoft will be prepping its new system again, and Nintendo will be readying its next system as well.

I disagree, Sony's current offer is not good enough to get a good start with securing parts of the market and as we know the games market is a self-reinforcing circle. By failing to gain the upper hand early on Sony will suffer from reduced game support compared to its competitor and they'll either have to drop prices prematurely or they'll be left behind by MS. Sony has to outperform MS by a good margin in order to undo MS's lead. They also have the image of being draconian and arrogant towards developers making those wary of Sony since Sony could interfere with their plans on a whim. MS is more predictable and all in all a better bet. Sure, Sony has the Playstation name but that alone won't carry the system, the games people associate with Playstation do. Look at the PSP, I think that's the fate the PS3 is going for. Developers are switching away from Sony, possibly because they don't want to be abused by them again. Sony's big name games could end up on the 360 along with a good number of exclusives. Really, the only big name series they still have left are MGS and FF. Nintendo alone has more than that.

For some reason I just imagined setting up a tent over a manhole and having people sneak into the sewers a half mile away an hour before the store opens and then coming up and out of the tent and pretending they were there the whole time. That would be pretty funny.

I don't know about the US but here in Germany the "manholes" are just sinks with a bucket (to catch leaves and such) in them and a 10cm pipe as a drain. I know because I had a job where I did a week or two of emptying those buckets.

[BlackNMild2k1]

I posted this in the Wii section, but after reading it a little more, I should've posted it here instead.

Developer Survey: Wii or PS3?

The reall don't like PS3 from a consumer or gamer perspective.

Not to mention Time Magazine and CNN Money have both called PS3 a waste of time and money.

see what I did there?

[ThePerm]

in the us, manholes lead to tunnels underneath the city(in many places)...

watch ninja turtles!

[vudu]

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I don't know about the US but here in Germany the "manholes" are just sinks with a bucket (to catch leaves and such) in them and a 10cm pipe as a drain. I know because I had a job where I did a week or two of emptying those buckets.

That's not how it is in the United States.  Check out TMNT for a look at how the sewers are here.  

[couchmonkey]

I agree with KDR on the "PS3 will do great later on" theory.  If PS3 keeps falling behind, it will never catch up.  The system is already losing third party support (most notably Square Enix saying it wouldn't support any one console over the rest) and that will snowball if PS3 doesn't make up a lot of ground in the next 12 months.  I figure that next Christmas will be Sony's last chance to turn the tables on Microsoft, and after that, it's doomed to second place.

What about Wii?  I think Wii's success or failure will have little to do with Sony and Microsoft. They're focused on each other now, and even if they weren't, there's just no practical way to market PS3 vs. Wii.  If Wii becomes a big success, the best the others can do is beat each other.  If Wii's a big failure, it will be because Nintendo failed to create the games and the third party support Wii needed.  Excepting backroom shenanigans involving moneyhats and corporate espionage, there's not a lot Microsoft and Sony can do about Wii if the concept catches peoples' attention.

[Smash_Brother]

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Originally posted by: KDR_11k I'd introduce my kid to the concept of not being able to keep promises. I'd have told him I couldn't fulfill that promise the moment they announced the price. Because that's what my parents would have done.

Quoted for great justice.

I'm almost positive that 90% of the people in line are either ebayers or hardcore gaming nuts, with a scant few parents here and there who just can't say no to their kids, kids who would be vastly more inclined to want a Wii anyway if they just got the chance to try it.

[Sessha]

Well I think parents sometimes have the misconception when a child says "I hate you" that means forever, and thus he/she gets everything they want.  And if they believe in Santa, say they fell off the sleigh.  And are now powering Nuclear Wessles pointed straight at us.  Thanks Sony ^^

[EasyCure]

i didnt want a start a new thread for this and it contains some of the stuff mentioned here. its kind of old but its a blog or what ever you want to call it about why sony sucks. its a pretty funny read but theres alot of bad language in it and even a bad picture about feces (still funny though) so its not for the faint of heart.

in fact here is my favorite part of it in case you're interested.

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Sony would love nothing more than to see you and your family suffer. Sony is like that psycho-ex who you had a few good times with, but was too clingy and the sex got boring. Now it's over and Sony is still stewing about it by leaving you voice mail asking for another chance and promising it "can change."

Tough sh*t Sony. We've moved on. We're dating your younger, hotter sister, Wii. Even your fuglier step-sister, Xbox 360, looks hotter than you do. At least she's been around the block a few times and knows how to turn tricks. You've got nothing, and it's going to stay that way until you stop being a crabby old c*nt.

check it out here

[KDR_11k]

It's Maddox. He doesn't run a blog, he runs a reference for ABSOLUTE TRUTH!

Also I think we had a thread about that already.

[BlackNMild2k1]

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Originally posted by: KDR_11k
It's Maddox. He doesn't run a blog, he runs a reference for ABSOLUTE TRUTH!

Also I think we had a thread about that already.

We do, its currently at the bottom of the 1st page

Maddox

[Kairon]

If Maddox represents the ultimate truth, what does Bill O'Reilly bvring when he hates on the PS3?

~Carmine M. Red
Kairon@aol.com

[NinGurl69 *huggles]

Illumination.

[EasyCure]

oh i didnt even see that topic. i havent been online much recently so im trying to catch up as much as possible the few hours i get to come on pgc (which i just found out has a new name)

[SixthAngel]

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Originally posted by: Kairon
If Maddox represents the ultimate truth, what does Bill O'Reilly bvring when he hates on the PS3?

~Carmine M. Red
Kairon@aol.com

I was worried that Bill O'Reilly actually did something right but thankfully he can't even hate on the ps3 correctly when it is so easy.  

[KDR_11k]

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Originally posted by: Kairon
If Maddox represents the ultimate truth, what does Bill O'Reilly bvring when he hates on the PS3?

Even a blind chicken finds a corn once in a while.

[KDR_11k]

BTW, I saw a thread on NeoGAF of PS3 owners saying their wireless controllers lose connection regularly freezing the input for  few seconds at a time (which can obviously be fatal in many games).

[ThePerm]

also, what kdr is talking about sounds lot like storm drains