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RE:Sony getting hit Hard lately
« Reply #900 on: November 14, 2006, 01:47:00 PM »
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Gamestop only able to fill 60% of PS3 orders....ouch.

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And they're saying maybe only 150,000-200,000 total. Double ouch

Which would make sense 60% of 400,000 is 240,000 and gamestop was lowballing it's numbers in the first place


Oh wow. I feel really, really bad for anyone who paid a ton of money for a pre-order slip via eBay or another means...
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« Reply #901 on: November 14, 2006, 03:56:01 PM »
i was at gamestop and i heard they may have halved their ps3 allocations, also

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RE:Sony getting hit Hard lately
« Reply #902 on: November 14, 2006, 04:18:05 PM »
Yeah but Nintendo is halfing there numbers on Wiis from what I've heard.  Why can't they just give low estimates in the first place.
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« Reply #903 on: November 14, 2006, 04:26:59 PM »
I haven't read anything about Nintendo halfing their units supplied.

Nintendo has stated that on launch they should have between 500,000 to 700,000 units available, with a second shipment of systems available instore for Black Friday sales.

That doesn't sound like cutting their supply at all.
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RE:Sony getting hit Hard lately
« Reply #904 on: November 14, 2006, 07:24:55 PM »
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Gamestop only able to fill 60% of PS3 orders....ouch.

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And they're saying maybe only 150,000-200,000 total. Double ouch

Which would make sense 60% of 400,000 is 240,000 and gamestop was lowballing it's numbers in the first place

And that's why I don't preorder.
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RE:Sony getting hit Hard lately
« Reply #905 on: November 14, 2006, 09:04:18 PM »
Werd on teh interwebs sez: Japanese PS3 restock shipments have been cut from 100k down to about 30k for atleast the next week.

Manufacturing promblems alot worse than Sony will let on?

1st Europe launch get shafted,
the Japanese launch gets shorted,
the U.S. launch gets cut in half(?)
and now they can't even restock the shelves?
I'll bet they still aren't fully covering pre-orders.

If they keep this up everyone will just pick up a Wii and forget all about the PS3 since they couldn't pick one up even if they wanted too.
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« Reply #906 on: November 14, 2006, 09:16:39 PM »
Sony's shit hit the fan!
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« Reply #907 on: November 14, 2006, 10:01:54 PM »
All I got to say, I predicted it earlier in this thread (alittle later than a predicted but it happened!).
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« Reply #908 on: November 15, 2006, 02:43:13 AM »
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Werd on teh interwebs sez: Japanese PS3 restock shipments have been cut from 100k down to about 30k for atleast the next week.

Manufacturing promblems alot worse than Sony will let on?

1st Europe launch get shafted,
the Japanese launch gets shorted,
the U.S. launch gets cut in half(?)
and now they can't even restock the shelves?
I'll bet they still aren't fully covering pre-orders.

If they keep this up everyone will just pick up a Wii and forget all about the PS3 since they couldn't pick one up even if they wanted too.



What it means is that people will forget about PS3 and split picking up a Wii and Xbox 360.  Lets not forget they are still out there.  This is bad for Sony, very Bad...because basically they have GIVEN Microsoft two holiday season's against them.

Also, once people see the price of the PS3 they will turned away as well.  
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« Reply #909 on: November 15, 2006, 02:49:28 AM »
Wow... US shipments cut in half!? Scalpers fights might break out everywhere.
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« Reply #910 on: November 15, 2006, 05:03:49 AM »
Spak: 500,000-700,000 is half of what Nintendo was saying in September.  I heard 1 million on launch day up until now, plus 1 million more by the end of the year.  *worries*

The price of PS3 won't matter as long as it's in such short supply.  People are paying $2000 for them on Ebay. Until the system is easy to get I don't think we'll really know what effect the cost has.  But supply issues are still a big problem - if Sony only reaches say, 3 million by March, publishers planning their 2007 releases will have to seriously consider how many customers will be able to buy their games on PS3.

Edit: Can't spell Septebmer.
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« Reply #911 on: November 15, 2006, 07:10:18 AM »
no, it was like 11 million by march and like 1 million by december, and 4 million by the end of 2006
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« Reply #912 on: November 15, 2006, 07:35:39 AM »
HAHAHAA, I didn't want to start a new topic for this, but I still find it funny. Japanese Scalpers Owned!?

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PlayStation 3 fetching mostly ho-hum prices on Japan Net auctions

TOKYO: Sony's PlayStation 3 is fetching reasonable prices on Japanese Internet auctions, although the new video game console has commanded some outrageous bids that are mostly jokes.

There even appears to be a glut of the much-hyped machines because of schemers who bought it at the Japan launch Saturday, enduring long lines at retailers especially with hopes of selling it for huge profits.

In the U.S., bidders on eBay have pre-orders of more than US$1,000 (€779.79)for PS3 — about twice the retail price.

But some of the 4,000 PlayStation 3 consoles up for auction on Yahoo! Japan Wednesday were downright bargains. Some had game software thrown in with the machine, selling near the retail price of about 60,000 yen (US$510; €400) for the more expensive model with a 60-gigabyte hard drive, and 50,000 yen (US$420; €330) for the cheaper model.

Yahoo! Japan spokesman Nobumitsu Iwaisaki said some PlayStation 3 machines were fetching millions of yen, but could not confirm a Japanese media report about a 2.1 billion yen (US$17.8 million; €13.9 million) bid.

The exorbitant prices turned out to be jokes, and were canceled before the sale was completed, as is common for popular products, Iwaisaki said.

Hundreds of hard-core game fans had lined up at electronics stores, many from Friday night, to make sure they got one.

But some were clearly not buying it to play — including those who marched immediately to a waiting van with the machines — says Hirokazu Hamamura, president of major Japanese game magazine publisher Enterbrain Inc.

"The Net auction is so popular these days, that's inevitable," he said. "There's even talk some are taking the machines overseas."


They are actually auctioning of PS3's @ almost retail price, and some of them come with games!? I feel bad for that guy that bought 100 PS3's all for him to put up for auction (>half million dollars well spent ).

You think the U.S. Scalper will have better luck? U.S. Preorders have been selling for double what they are selling actual PS3's for in Japan.
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« Reply #913 on: November 15, 2006, 07:52:58 AM »
On PS3 scalpers:
I'm surprised!  I assume it will go better in North America based on the preorder sales, but it looks like the market for gold-digging is shrinking.  Selling internationally would be your best bet, but I suppose there may be some kinks in that plan.

On Wii shipment numbers:
IGN said: 1 million Wiis at launch - September 26th - but it turns out Nintendo retracted that statement later on.  I never saw that retraction - figures a filthy Canadian would lie to us.

TheInquirer said: 11 million units by the end of March - BUT that's according to an analyst at a place called UBS, Nintendo is officially sticking to 6 million.  I bet Nintendo could produce more if it needs to, but will it?

So where is the 500K-700K figure coming from?  I can't find any official comments from Nintendo on shipment numbers.

Edit: the only numbers I know are straight from Nintendo are still: 4 million by year end (most for Americas) 6 million by fiscal year end (March).
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« Reply #914 on: November 15, 2006, 07:53:32 AM »
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« Reply #915 on: November 15, 2006, 07:55:42 AM »
This almost makes it seem like the PS3 is not all that popular in Japan. If the system was indeed this must have console you would think they would be selling for near double the retail price.

I feel a change in the wind....
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« Reply #916 on: November 15, 2006, 08:07:19 AM »
as far as scalper taking PS3's overseas...

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...To protect the whole eBay community, sellers will not be permitted to list PlayStation 3 consoles and games on eBay.co.uk until the authorised European pre-sales period begins in February 2007...

...You may only offer one PlayStation 3 console...

..You may only offer a PlayStation 3 console that you obtained within the EU. PlayStation 3 consoles obtained outside of the EU cannot be listed on eBay.co.uk....


Looks like all of those over seas seller will be selling them to the U.S.
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RE:Sony getting hit Hard lately
« Reply #917 on: November 15, 2006, 08:12:58 AM »
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This almost makes it seem like the PS3 is not all that popular in Japan. If the system was indeed this must have console you would think they would be selling for near double the retail price.

I feel a change in the wind....
Give it time.  With a launch lineup like that it's not surprising people are willing to wait.

As soon as a major exclusive comes out demand will increase.
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« Reply #918 on: November 15, 2006, 08:36:16 AM »
I'm surprised considering how humongous the lines I saw on YouTube were, but I guess maybe quarter of the lines were resellers.
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« Reply #919 on: November 15, 2006, 01:59:20 PM »
I hope there are more bad news for Sony before Friday so that we hit 1000 replies in this thread.

Not likely, though...  
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« Reply #920 on: November 15, 2006, 02:46:07 PM »
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Give it time.  With a launch lineup like that it's not surprising people are willing to wait.

As soon as a major exclusive comes out demand will increase.


Actually it is surprising because people are always crazy during launches and if Japan was anything like the US the ps2 was in high demand despite having nothing to offer at launch
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« Reply #921 on: November 15, 2006, 03:14:19 PM »
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This almost makes it seem like the PS3 is not all that popular in Japan. If the system was indeed this must have console you would think they would be selling for near double the retail price.

I feel a change in the wind....
And this is AFTER Sony cut shipments to, what, 75,000 in Japan.?That's such a ridiculously low figure that you would think the demand would be way higher than that. They even cut the price of the lower end package in Japan..
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« Reply #922 on: November 15, 2006, 03:42:51 PM »
A similar thing could very well happen here if too many people buy it to sell on ebay.  The amount of ebay sales is going to be crazy.  People want the system but only so many use ebay and want one for so much money.  Too many systems on ebay in the US by sellers who don't want to keep them at any price could ruin the hopes of the auctioneers on pgc.
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« Reply #923 on: November 15, 2006, 03:49:19 PM »
woh! I just got back from a shop-center/mall and it's crazy. There's already massive lines for the ps3 everywere and it's still 2 Days! before it come out. Outside of a bestbuy they was over 30 people waiting (a few of them fighting over their spots) in line for a ps3, 10 guys were outside walmark, sear and a few other store are getting NO units at all for launch, and no one was stupid enough to wait outside at 3 different GS/EBs. And from what I heard from people saying most store are getting 0-7 ps3 unit, sony must've started manufacturing ps3s yesterday because their is no way the even come close to having 100,000 units.

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« Reply #924 on: November 15, 2006, 06:23:27 PM »
Yeah there was a shanty town setup outside of Best Buy tonight, about twenty people and a half dozen tents. Further down the way, the Target had about six people in front.
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