Author Topic: Super Smash Bros. Brawl (Read 467174 times)

Smash_Brother · « **Reply #800 on:** July 20, 2006, 05:47:34 AM »

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Originally posted by: Spak-Spang
Smash: And zero suit Samus could be described as a sword wielder as well.

I think it's kind of like an electric whip, but you're right, the end result is the same: a character who wields a weapon which counts as an offensive attack and yet cannot BE attacked to harm the character.

One of the main reasons Marth was so damn good in SSBM is because his sword presented an attack which couldn't be countered even after he was finished attacking. For this reason, it was especially good for ledge guarding.

I hope they balance this a bit more in SSBB. Hell, I'm hoping for plenty of balance in general.

couchmonkey · « **Reply #801 on:** July 20, 2006, 07:05:57 AM »

HAMMER dude sounds good to me.

Female characters in Smash? There aren't a lot of choices out there is the problem. I mean, popular choices. You've got fighting game characters like Chun Li, which I don't think should feature in Smash anyway, and then you've got Lara Croft, whose reputation is awfully tarnished. Maybe they could pull a character out of Square Enix's hat (I vote Terra!) They could also tap F-Zero for another female character, if it was that important to them.

The point I was getting at, though, is that there aren't a lot of popular female leads in videogames. Once you eliminate ensemble casts, like RPGs and Fighting games, all you're left with is Lara Croft, Samus and maybe Joanna Dark. Are there any others? Or any other well-known damsels in distress like Peach and Zelda?

Spak-Spang · « **Reply #802 on:** July 20, 2006, 07:21:14 AM »

CouchMonkey: You are right about the female character list being pretty sparse. It is quite the shame actually.

Right now the only female characters I can think of from Nintendo's lot of characters are:

Birdo
Samus
Zelda
Peach
Jigglypuff
Driller Dozer girl (Actually this would be a very fun character.)

I actually don't see a problem with adding a female fighter from Street Fighter.

Chun Li although would be the obvious choice...I would rather have Sakuri from Alpha, and have her cell-shaded to look like she did in the original games.

Third Party candidates would be:

Jade,
Lara Croft,
Ms. Pac Man?

I dunno...which more.

Ceric · « **Reply #803 on:** July 20, 2006, 07:29:39 AM »

Sylvia from Viewtiful Joe. Even if she represents the whole series. I would rather not see any characters from other Fighters. That just isn't appealing to me.

Smash_Brother · « **Reply #804 on:** July 20, 2006, 08:04:22 AM »

I don't know if Capcom will get any characters into SSBB.

I know people love Megaman, but Capcom's support for Nintendo as of late has been...lacking.

They've released at least 7 games for the PSP now (mostly ports, but still). VJ is all-console and they opted to port RE4 to the PS2 despite the fact that it did very well on the cube.

Then again, by my own logic, that doesn't mean much because Konami's support hasn't been that great either and yet Snake is in the game.

NinGurl69 *huggles · « **Reply #805 on:** July 20, 2006, 08:05:06 AM »

Jill Valentine.

Smash_Brother · « **Reply #806 on:** July 20, 2006, 08:54:17 AM »

Given RE's presence on the cube, I'd actually suspect an RE character if anything from Capcom.

Darkheart · « **Reply #807 on:** July 20, 2006, 09:40:03 AM »

I dunno we kind of have been getting Capcom Ds titles. . . .

Megaman Battle Network 5
Megaman ZX
New Megaman EXE title
Viewtiful Joe
RE

Thats five titles right there, yet I agree that is way too many PSP to DS titles. We should be getting more. . . .

I think Viewtiful Joe would be awesome to add to SSBB BUT what makes him cool is all of his special powers i.e. slow down time, fasten it up, zoom, etc etc. I do not think that would work all too well with the current setup.

Spak-Spang · « **Reply #808 on:** July 20, 2006, 09:57:46 AM »

We will be getting Mega Man.

Period. The end of story. I just know it. And his level will rock. And have timed platforms that disappear and reappear.

(ok...this is hopeful, faith based speculation)

Less likely, but still plausibe, is a Bomberman character, and Level.

But the Mega Man is one of the most easily assured 3rd party characters.

Nintendo has great relation with Capcom, and they have worked together on several projects.

Finally, Mega Man has been on every single Nintendo System since the NES.

Luigi Dude · « **Reply #809 on:** July 20, 2006, 01:08:25 PM »

I agree, out of all the third party charactors Megaman is the most deserving to appear. Most of his games have games have appeared on Nintendo systems and his best selling and most popular games were all on a Nintendo system as well.

Plus last generation the Megaman games on the Gamecube sold better then the Megaman games on the PS2, showing where the Megaman fanbase is. Inafune himself has said that the Wii will be the best system for Megaman games this gen so hopefully that will also have some effect.

EasyCure · « **Reply #810 on:** July 20, 2006, 03:02:08 PM »

but that leads to the question; which megaman do we get??

most of us prefer the original megaman, and a few others wouldnt mind seeing X (i know i wouldnt, as long as they didnt use any of that special armor stuff, he looks better without it).

i just have a feeling that if we do get mega man, capcom migh want to push the mega man.exe battle crap version since thats supposed to be the new popular version. maybe its unfair of me to judge since i've never tried the games (they dont come off as appealing) but the character design is horrible IMO. i would rather not have megaman in SSBB than to have the weakest looking version. i thought the Legends/64 character design looked bad but this one takes the cake. oh and while ranting about bad character design, if they want to give us the MMZ version of zero they might as well not give us anything at all.

Spak-Spang · « **Reply #811 on:** July 20, 2006, 03:50:25 PM »

How about the potential of all 3.

Different players can get different models.

However, if I had to guess we would get the character model which the development team deems the most recognizable and classic. Which means, a character model which looks more like the classic Mega Man than any other.

However, it is important to note, that the character model will be completely new and may have details and a look very unique, for past incarnations.

Luigi Dude · « **Reply #812 on:** July 20, 2006, 03:56:09 PM »

His default costume would be the original, 2nd would be X, 3rd would be Legends and 4th would be EXE.

Most of the charactors in Melee had four costumes so this would fit Megaman perfectly.

EasyCure · « **Reply #813 on:** July 20, 2006, 05:49:10 PM »

i've thought of that as well but the multiple costumes of that sort would require different character models and not just recolors. recolors would work fine for the mega man and mega man x versions of the character since that was his nature, but a MML model would be blue only, and i dont know about the exe version.

if they did make different character models (different polygons) then they would have to do so for all characters. for example: Mario/Caped Mario/Tanuki Mario/Hammer Mario (or any other version, a sunshine mario with sunglasses and hiwain shirt would be good for a laugh)

if i could pose as Smash_Brother for a second: making different polygon models for each, or any character, would take time away from the multiplayer game, which is what the game is known for.

smash im not mocking you, i do feel this way; i'd much rather have recolor costumes then a brand new character model costume. that way, they could give mega man a quickman recolor so i could kick ass with a pink megaman ;-)

IceCold · « **Reply #814 on:** July 20, 2006, 06:28:14 PM »

I would love skins..

Ceric · « **Reply #815 on:** July 20, 2006, 06:45:24 PM »

But that could be Pharoah Mans power... o,O lol.
As long as we get one more in the spirit of the NES Megaman. Not this new big head or silly k1ddy looking Megaman they try to say is the classic. Megaman from the one of the greatest parts of the series. Megaman 2.

Dirk Temporo · « **Reply #816 on:** July 20, 2006, 08:58:58 PM »

Megaman would be a Samus clone. Nothx.

Ceric · « **Reply #817 on:** July 21, 2006, 04:53:54 AM »

You just want Megaman to be Roll instead of Rock...

Spak-Spang · « **Reply #818 on:** July 21, 2006, 05:07:41 AM »

Dirk: Technically, Samus would be Mega Man clone.

Ok..joking around.

Mega Man has alot of potential to be vastly different than Samus...and as it stands we only have one character that is advantageous at long range...and we have like what 4 sword wielders? And 3 Heavy Weights? I think we can stand Mega Man.

I have mentioned it before, but how you Make Mega Man great and unique...is you pull his powers from different Mega Man abilities he gains.

Leaf Shield, Slide, power shot/blaster, Gemini Lasers, Torando shot.

You could even have him have a move that rotates his abilities...and potentially he has a limited amount of shots for each item. (Health can replenish this)

Tons of ways to make him unique.

Pale · « **Reply #819 on:** July 21, 2006, 05:31:03 AM »

This was probably already said, but I haven't read this thread.

Anyway, I totally think Simon Belmont should be in this game. I mean, he's got more Nintendo cred then snake and Konami has already shown they are willing.

KDR_11k · « **Reply #820 on:** July 21, 2006, 05:56:15 AM »

I think Belmont is a given unless Konami isn't allowed to enter a second char.

Capcom could give them Megaman. Perhaps Iwata could ask them about favours "We let you make the Zelda games for the handheld, can we use Megaman in our franchise fighter?". Or they could talk with Namco about Link being in Soul Calibur and such.

EasyCure · « **Reply #821 on:** July 21, 2006, 07:10:20 AM »

mega man can be set apart by samus by letting him charge while moving

Spak-Spang · « **Reply #822 on:** July 21, 2006, 07:22:33 AM »

Seriously, what third party developer would refuse Nintendo if they asked for one of their characters to be in one of the biggest fighting game franchises.

Nintendo is very respectful to characters, and it could only help the popularity of your character.

BlackNMild2k1 · « **Reply #823 on:** July 21, 2006, 07:37:00 AM »

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Originally posted by: Spak-Spang
Seriously, what third party developer would refuse Nintendo if they asked for one of their characters to be in one of the biggest fighting game franchises.

Nintendo is very respectful to characters, and it could only help the popularity of your character.

Wspecially if you are about to release another game using that character/franchise on a Nintendo platform.

Spak-Spang · « **Reply #824 on:** July 21, 2006, 08:15:39 AM »

BlackNMild:

Exactly. I seriously don't think it would be the third parties that refused...at least not the Japanese 3rd parties that still hold alot of respect for Nintendo and their game designers.

The 3rd party characters are going to be handpicked by the development team...so we have to look at it from the perspective of which characters actually fit for the series, then go by popularity.

For Example:

Jill Valetine from Resident Evil. Although it would flesh out the female characters in the list, she wouldn't fit.

Mega Man would fit.

Drill Dozer would fit, and I hope she is in the game...but with just one single game, the chances are unlikely.

Sonic completely fits that game as he is the defination of a Mascot character.

Viewtiful Joe as well fits, and he has a pretty good chance as he game is about fighting, and started on a Nintendo system...however Red Hot Rumble didn't do great...so perhaps not.

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