Topic: Email Nintendo and tell them you HATE the name!

[Hostile Creation]

You don't have  to say it like weeeeeeeeeeee an annoying sound.   Just say we.  People in the English language use the word we ALL THE TIME and it never bothers anyone.

[Ian Sane]

"Sorry, you're going to have to give some evidence of that. I've already pointed out why they wouldn't buy a Rev: because 'Revolution' still fits the status quo of arrogant and unapproachable videogame console names, geared towards the elitist group of geeks who play videogames already and thus alienating everyone else."

I think Revolution is fairly neutral and I honestly can't imagine anyone being turned off by it.  I can't prove that 40 year olds won't be turned off by it I guess.  Personally I don't think 40 year old housewives are going to be buying the Rev PERIOD regardless of what Nintendo calls it, how they market it, and what games they have on it.  But that's a different issue.

One thing that I think is incredibly important for Nintendo not to do is turn off existing gamers.  This is something I've felt since all this non-gamer stuff has been annouced.  The non-gamer strategy is risky as hell.  There's no indication that people not interested in games ever will.  Not even the DS can prove that, at least in North America, because it's getting outsold by the GBA.  So Nintendo has to make sure that existing gamers buy the Rev because they're the only ones they can rely on if the non-gamer plan doesn't work or it only works as a fad or if non-gamers don't buy enough games to make it a profitable strategy.  The stupidest thing you can do is turn away your bread and butter.  "Wii" is not going to attract existing gamers to the Rev.  It follows the same trend as all the other marketing goof-ups Nintendo has made that have made them irrelevent to gaming.  Anyone turned off by previous Nintendo crap will continue to be turned off.  By going with a name like that Nintendo is relying on non-gamers to bail them out.  That's just plain stupid.  There's no reason to take a risk like that.

If non-gamers don't take to the Wii then the BEST Nintendo can do is as well as the Cube.  But they won't because their userbase shrinks each time because they piss their userbase off with stupid crap and, because of this Wii nonsense, have shown no indication that they've improved.

[Mario]

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When you don't even pose a counter argument, it further proves Ian's point.

See what Paladin did here? This is a counter argument. You look like less of a nebbish Nintendo fanboy when you use one.

I'm not going to repeat myself, and you need to lighten up.

What I like mostly about Wii, is that Nintendo effectively walked right up to everyone who wanted them to become more mature and generic, and slapped them in the face with a nice bag of reality.

[mantidor]

I was talking about the short version. as in just "wi", having two "i" and having to read them constantly doesnt help though. Extra "e"s were confusing, sorry.

Its a pronoun, and thas why "we" seem to not sounds that horrible, maybe is because it nevers comes alone I guess, the shortest phrase would be the answer to a question and that still goes like "we are" "we will" etc, never just "we". But now its going to be a noun, "the we this" "the we that" and ugh, I cant help to associate it with a pig screaming or something similary unpleasant, and I have tried plenty to accomodate this new name in my head...

What the hell, Ill never be able to explain why the sounds is just so hideous and horrible in my poor ears, Ill just hope you dont flame for sticking with rev to avoid myself some pain.

[Smash_Brother]

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hey i take offense to that. i'm an apple and even i think the name is terrible but doing go dragging the good name of innocent fruit into this!

Good call. My apologies.

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Originally posted by: Mario

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When you don't even pose a counter argument, it further proves Ian's point.

See what Paladin did here? This is a counter argument. You look like less of a nebbish Nintendo fanboy when you use one.

I'm not going to repeat myself, and you need to lighten up.

What I like mostly about Wii, is that Nintendo effectively walked right up to everyone who wanted them to become more mature and generic, and slapped them in the face with a nice bag of reality.

Who wanted Nintendo to be mature and generic? More to the point, how could ANYTHING Nintendo do with the Rev EVER be considered generic?

The only bag of reality is their own hypocrisy when it comes to this name. They say "We're all about the games! Games, games, games!" Then, they roll out a marketing campaign so full of psychotic babble that it rivals scientology in madness, spouting nonsense like "Wee will play as one". What happened, guys? Weren't the GAMES the focus of the console, not some horrible invented word/pun which needs a paragraph of explanation?

I think it's pretty safe to say that non-gamers are going to steer clear of a product when its advertising sounds like the hook mantra for a satanic cult "Weee willl change the wooooorrllldd....".

The Rev was fine as the Rev. The name was neutral and didn't need to be explained.

And I can't see how the Revolution is pretentious when Nintendo pulls out a name which strives to replace a common word in the english language. We've used the word for thousands of years and now Nintendo thinks they can replace the word with their console name?

Even the iPod wasn't THAT ambitious...

[Hostile Creation]

"And I can't see how the Revolution is pretentious when Nintendo pulls out a name which strives to replace a common word in the english language."

Oh, come on!  What?  They're not replacing the word, what that word means is an integral part of the name.  Don't be ridiculous.

[wandering]

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What's wrong with Nintendo having a very normal name that no one would have any strong opinion about?

What's wrong with being boring? Are you kidding? No strong opinion means no interest means no sales. Safe and neutral will never work for Nintendo because they aren't a safe and neutral company. They're leaders, not followers. And until they stop acting like wannabe losers, and start actually flaunting their true personality, the majority of americans won't respect them or show much interest in them.

[Smash_Brother]

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Originally posted by: Hostile Creation Oh, come on!  What?  They're not replacing the word, what that word means is an integral part of the name.  Don't be ridiculous.

When people have to ask which "we" I mean when I say the word, then they've interjected their language over mine, hence why I'll continue to say "Rev" because everyone knows exactly what I'm talking about.

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What's wrong with being boring? Are you kidding? No strong opinion means no interest means no sales. Safe and neutral will never work for Nintendo because they aren't a safe and neutral company. They're leaders, not followers. And until they stop acting like wannabe losers, and start actually flaunting their true personality, the majority of americans won't respect them or show much interest in them.

"Revolution" isn't boring. Revolution is the act of change for the better via force. You want boring? 360, Playstation...THAT'S boring. Revolution is far from boring. And "wee" is still boring.

The GAMES are what matter, and with a relatively neutral name like "Revolution", Nintendo could have probably convinced far more people to give the console a try and see how good the games are than with a name like "wee".

The US marketplace is a harsh, unforgiving wasteland, and Nintendo is on its last legs here as it is.

I'm sorry, but the beast-raping the American media is going to give this console will not be pretty...

[wandering]

Revolution maybe wasn't boring back when you turned on the tv and didn't hear the word every several seconds. 'The revolutionary new FIVE blade razor!' 'A revolution in online stock trading!'

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The US marketplace is a harsh, unforgiving wasteland, and Nintendo is on its last legs here as it is.

I'm sorry, but the beast-raping the American media is going to give this console will not be pretty...

I just don't see it. People who knew the system as 'revolution' are mad about the name change. But what do people in general care? Lots of products have goofy names. Why would the american media "beast-rape" the system? They're paid to support stuff like the wii.

[Hostile Creation]

"When people have to ask which "we" I mean when I say the word, then they've interjected their language over mine, hence why I'll continue to say "Rev" because everyone knows exactly what I'm talking about."

I hope you realize, and everyone that's intent on calling it Rev, that when this system is released in five or so months things will be different.  I'll go into  the store and ask for the Wii, and they'll give it to me without even cracking a grin.  They'll probably own one themselves.  You'll go in and ask for a Revolution, and depending on who you ask they may not even know what you're talking about. "Oh we don't carry that" or "You still call it Rev?".   You'll make a fool out of yourself for calling it a code name that died nearly half a year ago.

[Blue Plant]

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Originally posted by: wandering
Revolution maybe wasn't boring back when you turned on the tv and didn't hear the word every several seconds. 'The revolutionary new FIVE blade razor!' 'A revolution in online stock trading!'

Ha, really!  I even saw this earlier on TV.  Talking cats demanding revolution.

[Smash_Brother]

Fine, then name it something which isn't boring, but "wee" doesn't pass that sniff test.

Even "OK Soda" was more intriguing than "wii"...

[Smash_Brother]

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Originally posted by: Hostile Creation I hope you realize, and everyone that's intent on calling it Rev, that when this system is released in five or so months things will be different.  I'll go into  the store and ask for the Wii, and they'll give it to me without even cracking a grin.  They'll probably own one themselves.  You'll go in and ask for a Revolution, and depending on who you ask they may not even know what you're talking about. "Oh we don't carry that" or "You still call it Rev?".   You'll make a fool out of yourself for calling it a code name that died nearly half a year ago.

I hope you're right. I hope my concerns are baseless, but I just can't look at the name and not think, "Gee, if I love Nintendo, and I think the name is a bad idea, what are the people who hate Nintendo going to do?" and that includes the same Gamestop clerks who recommend games and systems to people on a daily basis.

It's time I stopped talking about this. It's irrelevant. Nothing I say will change what Nintendo is going to do. Might as well just wait and pray that E3 offers some more explanation, like that Wii is an abbreviation for something interesting or what they plan to do, or that they have a billion dollar ad campaign ramping up.

[Avinash_Tyagi]

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"Playing the "wii" will be like banging a hot girl named "Doug". She's hot, and the sex is great, you're just not going to introduce her at many parties."

ROFL

[31 Flavas]

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Originally posted by: Smash_Brother

"Revolution" isn't boring. Revolution is the act of change for the better via force. You want boring? 360, Playstation...THAT'S boring. Revolution is far from boring. And "wee" is still boring.

Wii boring? Why does it have you and the internet all hot and bothered then?

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The GAMES are what matter, and with a relatively neutral name like "Revolution", Nintendo could have probably convinced far more people to give the console a try and see how good the games are than with a name like "wee".

Here we go again, you're projecting your opinion as fact. Have you asked non-gamers yet what they think of Wii? We saw this last time with the DS vs PSP.

I mean, geez, EVERYONE was going to buy a PSP over a DS or GBA. It was just one of those internet FACTS. The PSP was quickly and succinctly going to put an end to Nintendo and the DS would just get miserable ports of a few general audience PSP games. What happened in the end? DS killed the PSP in Japan and 7 year old GBA out sold PSP in North America. So much for that widely held fact...

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The US marketplace is a harsh, unforgiving wasteland, and Nintendo is on its last legs here as it is.

I'm sorry, but the beast-raping the American media is going to give this console will not be pretty...

Weeee, more of these "facts".

[Artimus]

To be honest, Revolution isn't the right name for what they want. Wii was the right idea, it's just the totally wrong word. I think they should've called it the "Zii" or the "Glockenspiel" or the "Kui".

[31 Flavas]

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Originally posted by: wandering
Revolution maybe wasn't boring back when you turned on the tv and didn't hear the word every several seconds. 'The revolutionary new FIVE blade razor!' 'A revolution in online stock trading!'

Quintipio MEGA SHAVE. The new revolution in shaving! *14* blades.

I kid you not... that was a real commercial. Even if the product wasn't real.

[UltimatePartyBear]

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Originally posted by: Artimus
To be honest, Revolution isn't the right name for what they want. Wii was the right idea, it's just the totally wrong word. I think they should've called it the "Zii" or the "Glockenspiel" or the "Kui".

How 'bout the Nii?  N for Nintendo, same double i symbolism, sounds like knee, which is perhaps the least sexual body part.  They can use the same logo, too.  Just pick up the i on the end and use it to chop off the W's arm (and then, if you've already made the Monty Python reference, it could claim it was only a flesh wound).

I'll say again that my objection to the name is not based on love for the name Revolution, which I long ago accepted would not be the final name.  The codename is never the final name.  Everyone who does prefer Revolution can take comfort that the model number will be REV-001, at least.

31 Flavas:  I for one never thought the PSP would be able to beat the DS.  I'm amazed that it's done so well.  Also, I don't recall the people claiming otherwise basing their opinions on the name, but on the power of the hardware.  This isn't the same.

[Gamebasher]

"It's time I stopped talking about this. It's irrelevant. Nothing I say will change what Nintendo is going to do. Might as well just wait and pray that E3 offers some more explanation, like that Wii is an abbreviation for something interesting or what they plan to do, or that they have a billion dollar ad campaign ramping up."

Right about that, Smash_Brother!

When people play Metroid Prime 3, Legend of Zelda: TLP, Super Monkey Ball: Banana Blitz, Red Steel they will become less hostile towards the name of the machine. Following E3 Nintendo will launch a cool advertising campaign which will make a lot of cynics a lot more comfortable as they hear and see the name in use by real gamers from around the world. The gaming revolution has started to roll... Next, I predict a situation where many people who already own an Xbox360, and who have been drooling over the current and upcoming Zelda media will dash out to the local gameshop on day one of Wii´s release and snap up a unit plus Zelda, Metroid Prime 3 and Red Steel. Their sheer astonishment at the ease of play with the Wii, and the awesome games, will spread like wildfire as the talk of towns everywhere and people will drop the issue with the name and carry on playing away and enjoying Nintendo´s revolution. It is truly astounding how people are capable of accepting odd things, once they find out that the same things are great no matter how strange they seemed at first!

One example, is the BMW car. Bayerische Motoren Werke has changed the design of their 3, 5, and 7 series repeatedly, and I have watched this ongoing design row over the past 20 years. When they got to their latest design of the three mocel classes, I nearly almost thought I was never going to like BMW cars again. They just appeared that strange. But now, after some two years of looking at the new design, I have become used to it, and I can see the reason why they changed the design. Simply to match the vibe of the times. So as with design of a car, it can be the same with the construction of a name. Nintendo must have hauled in heavy duty advertising experts to coin that name. But in half a year when it comes out, people will have already become used to it. Think of it as seeing ahead of times, and catching a future acceptable public perception of a given marketable product. I think a lot of companies are doing like that these days.

Fairytale story? No ways, mates! DS´ name was also criticized, but when people got to play it they went wild. Wait untill you see what happens with Wii!  

[TOY]

Heres the message I sent, hopefully they will listen to the peolpe for once.

I was never fond of the name Gamecube or the design of the console but I learned to live with it. Wii, come on! Do yourself a favor and FIRE the person that came up with it. Will it keep me from buying the console, No, but the controller will. I truly hope you guys are going to impress me at E3 or this will be the first Nintendo console I dont buy, I still have them all, even the Virtual Boy! I've been a huge fan of Nintendo since the Nes so I'm not that hard to win over but their are millions of Sony fanboys that hate Nintendo and your not doing anything to change it with such a STUPID name for the console. You need to start listening to us (the gamers) or we will be playing Zelda & Mario on the PS3, which I'm definitly buying.


Sincerely,
Kenneth Toy  

[Smash_Brother]

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Originally posted by: 31 Flavas Wii boring? Why does it have you and the internet all hot and bothered then?

Because Nintendo announced that it's the name of their console and the only ones in an uproar are the people who already play videogames.

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Here we go again, you're projecting your opinion as fact. Have you asked non-gamers yet what they think of Wii? We saw this last time with the DS vs PSP.

I mean, geez, EVERYONE was going to buy a PSP over a DS or GBA. It was just one of those internet FACTS. The PSP was quickly and succinctly going to put an end to Nintendo and the DS would just get miserable ports of a few general audience PSP games. What happened in the end? DS killed the PSP in Japan and 7 year old GBA out sold PSP in North America. So much for that widely held fact...

What are you talking about? Since when did EVERYONE say they'd buy a PSP? I remember reading the comments from multiple sites about what people though and, before both consoles launched, it was ALWAYS about even in terms of support. Most people said they wanted both.

And every gamer or non-gamer I've asked has given nothing but negative feedback to the name.

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Weeee, more of these "facts".

I don't go to to Gamestop very often, but the past 2-3 times I've been there, I've ALWAYS seen at least one person show up with a GC and a pile of games to get rid of. The first time I can see as coincidence, but it has happened far too often.

Nintendo is not a respected name in the US, certainly not with older gamers, and less and less all the time in general. It doesn't take research to figure this out. When game stores and rental places have tiny GC sections, it's because it's the least moved software, and I routinely see the GC getting very little shelf space.

Nintendo has a great deal of ground to recover in the US. Like the name or hate it, this is certainly the current state of Nintendo.  

[Smash_Brother]

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Originally posted by: Gamebasher When people play Metroid Prime 3, Legend of Zelda: TLP, Super Monkey Ball: Banana Blitz, Red Steel they will become less hostile towards the name of the machine.

See, it'd be even better if the machine wasn't given a name that generates hostility to begin with...

[Hostile Creation]

"And every gamer or non-gamer I've asked has given nothing but negative feedback to the name."

I'm sure you've asked tons of people.
I've asked a few.  A few liked it, most didn't mind.  Didn't matter to them.  Know what that suggests to me?  That your negative outlook is affecting the people you're asking, which can only make the problem worse.

[The Omen]

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I sent an email to Nintendo and told them to keep it. This is my message to some of you: GROW UP!

Uh, yeah.  We'll do the growing up while you send emails to a huge corporation giving them the okay to keep the name they chose.  Okay.

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What I like mostly about Wii, is that Nintendo effectively walked right up to everyone who wanted them to become more mature and generic, and slapped them in the face with a nice bag of reality.

Do you really believe that?  Seems to me everyone defending the name is doing so just because the majority is not, which is lame indeed.

By the way, Revolution was not mature and generic.  It made perfect sense for their supposed new direction.  Also by the way, mature doesn't mean generic, and vice versa.  

[The Omen]

I think they should have called it the AK-47.