Author Topic: New TV for the upcoming Revolution (Read 14626 times)

Ian Sane · « **Reply #25 on:** March 22, 2006, 07:11:03 AM »

"I don't see the logic in this at all."

So we have a console that's big selling point is a theoretical concept that none of us have even tried. This concept has no demonstrations of it's abilities whatsoever and we have no idea what games that use it will even play like. You don't see the logic in waiting for a little more information before commiting yourself to a purchase in this situation?

animecyberrat · « **Reply #26 on:** March 22, 2006, 07:20:50 AM »

see Ian, its all about the Virtual Console and Smash Bros Online. thats all we need to make a purchase. I expect that there will be more good games but I havent heard anythign else that I am expecting to buy right away.

Ian Sane · « **Reply #27 on:** March 22, 2006, 07:46:56 AM »

"see Ian, its all about the Virtual Console and Smash Bros Online."

You don't know the pricing for the Virtual Console. Would you be excited by it if NES games cost like $20? Are you going to like Smash Bros Online if the controls are completely changed to use the remote? These are the sort of things we still need to know.

Kairon · « **Reply #28 on:** March 22, 2006, 08:36:51 AM »

C'mon Ian, no one here is gonna buy the Rev regardless of whatever else happens. For example, if it was announced that NES games WERE 20 bucks, I'm sure a bunch of us would be turned off. Give us SOME credit, geez.

What a lot of us are though is cautiously optomistic and anticipating a future situation that would involve us buying a Rev. Seriously, we think we're gonna buy one and we're planning for that possibility. But that doesn't mean we're zombified consumers in dire need of your condecension to be told how to not dive into a purchase without looking first, I mean, c'mon. Geez.

Except for shyguy, he asked for specifically for such advice, lol.

~Carmine M. Red
Kairon@aol.com

ShyGuy · « **Reply #29 on:** March 22, 2006, 11:01:19 AM »

Even if it's $1,000 and it's only game is Barbie Adventure 2, I'll still buy one just to spite Ian and his topic-destroying ways

Kairon · « **Reply #30 on:** March 22, 2006, 02:49:14 PM »

LOL. Ian just did Nintendo's work for them and sold a rev... by asking us not to commit ourselves to a console. Ian you sneaky dog! You're in cahoots with Nintendo with all your reverse psychology!

Anyways, sorry I haven't been much help Shyguy. I'm not much of a videophile or audiophile. All I can say is that I consider it a waste of money to pay for flat screen technology unless you absolutely need that sort of luxury. Today's CRT TVs are big enough to suit regular watching and gaming, and CRT is a dependable technology. I mean, you really gotta work hard to screw up something that established.

I remember my folks bought a 24" CRT non-flat-screen (some CRTs have flat screens, big whoop for useless features since they're still the same big fat tv) for something like $160 bucks at Circuit City. It's even from budget brand Apex. It worked fine for whatever we needed it for, we're not power-users at all. The most we ask of a TV is it works just like our 10-year-old receiver and sound system. I swear, some of our old surround sound speakers are as big as our TV, they're THAT old, lol.

But they work. And we're not audiophiles or videophiles who care about anything other than that.

~Carmine M. Red
Kairon@aol.com

wandering · « **Reply #31 on:** March 22, 2006, 10:10:11 PM »

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So we have a console that's big selling point is a theoretical concept that none of us have even tried. This concept has no demonstrations of it's abilities whatsoever and we have no idea what games that use it will even play like. You don't see the logic in waiting for a little more information before commiting yourself to a purchase in this situation?

What I meant was, hands-on impressions with final hardware is the only thing that ought to factor in to the decision at this point. Screenshots or early pricing predicitions or whatever other information that comes out between now and launch could be more misleading than informative. Until then, the important thing is that we know that the system will feature Nintedo-designed games which will almost certainly be great.

Anyway. On topic. I don't know much about this stuff, but I love Toshiba's flat CRTs which BigJim reccommended.

BigJim · « **Reply #32 on:** March 23, 2006, 06:43:12 AM »

Glad someone agrees.

The Toshiba "Pure Flat" CRTs are *nice.*

CRTs are still the gold standard for overall video quality IMHO. Unless you need to move the TV around often, who cares if it's heavy, IMO. Either way it goes on a TV stand where my consoles, Tivo, DVD player, movies, and games are anyway. Being light enough to hang on the wall isn't that much of a benefit when the floor space is already taken up.

vudu · « **Reply #33 on:** March 23, 2006, 08:01:12 AM »

What's the difference between a regular CRT and a flat CRT? I've never really understood the benefits the flat CRT offers.

BigJim · « **Reply #34 on:** March 23, 2006, 08:16:24 AM »

There's less picture distortion along the edges. And it's flat...

That's about it.

In Toshiba's case, their flat screens use different tech/engineering than their non-flat ones. If you see them side by side, the picture on the flats look better. Sharper, cleaner picture. That's not necessarily true for all flat CRTs. Just something I know about Toshiba's.

jasonditz · « **Reply #35 on:** March 24, 2006, 05:25:06 AM »

LCDs use a lot less electricity too.

The fact that the display Rev at the GDC only has a single video output port makes me think it might be wise to wait until after E3 when we have a better idea exactly what the Rev is supporting as far as modes and ports.

GregLee · « **Reply #36 on:** March 29, 2006, 10:43:54 AM »

How do you know the Revolution will output 480p?

vudu · « **Reply #37 on:** March 29, 2006, 10:51:06 AM »

I think it's just assumed because the Cube does. As much as I'm not a graphics whore, it would be kind of sad if the GameCube can output at a higher resolution than the Revolution.

zakkiel · « **Reply #38 on:** March 29, 2006, 11:16:21 AM »

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Originally posted by: Professional 666
seeing those prices... i'm getting a projector.

I wouldn't, if I were you, no matter what the price of the TV. For a good projector the lightbulb alone costs $1,500

GregLee · « **Reply #39 on:** March 29, 2006, 11:17:44 AM »

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Originally posted by: vudu
I think it's just assumed because the Cube does. As much as I'm not a graphics whore, it would be kind of sad if the GameCube can output at a higher resolution than the Revolution.

But the Cube doesn't output 480p --- not since early 2004 when Nintendo dropped the Digital AV Out port. That's why I thought it was worth mentioning.

BigJim · « **Reply #40 on:** March 29, 2006, 11:30:08 AM »

Iwata, soon after the "No HD" scandal, said 480p would remain the standard.

Edit: Linky to Iwata 480p discussion

GregLee · « **Reply #41 on:** March 29, 2006, 12:01:59 PM »

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Originally posted by: BigJim Iwata, soon after the "No HD" scandal, said 480p would remain the standard.

So he does. Thanks for the reference.

NinGurl69 *huggles · « **Reply #42 on:** March 29, 2006, 01:49:14 PM »

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Originally posted by: zakkiel
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Originally posted by: Professional 666
seeing those prices... i'm getting a projector.
I wouldn't, if I were you, no matter what the price of the TV. For a good projector the lightbulb alone costs $1,500

BUT BUT
BIG SKREEN

and i don't have to buy a SUPER projector. Just the minimum for my 480p gaming and 1024x768 PC and other 4:3 desires.
and InFocus' lamps aren't that outrageously priced.
http://infocus.com/Products/Accessories/Lamps.aspx

Caliban · « **Reply #43 on:** August 02, 2006, 05:29:54 PM »

Sorry about making this thread come back to life.

Recently I've been thinking of getting a new TV for my room, and I am leaning my purcahse for this one http://www.futureshop.ca/catalog/proddetail.asp?logon=&langid=EN&sku_id=0770HDS0010061666&catid= . Obviously I want your opinions on it, but I would really like to know is how does it actually work if I have a GC or Wii plugged in running through component cables, I mean will it display gamesin 480p or will it try to upconvert?

Ceric · « **Reply #44 on:** August 02, 2006, 07:43:27 PM »

It won't "Upconvert" It will stretch them to fit the screen but you can change that so that it sticks with the true 480, gets gray bars. HD Channels will put black bars on the 480 stuff. Thats what my CRT HD-TV does from them.

ShyGuy · « **Reply #45 on:** August 02, 2006, 09:03:12 PM »

I'm thinking about going with a 16:9 screen now that it's been revealed most Wii games will support that mode. I wish LCD prices would drop faster :/

31 Flavas · « **Reply #46 on:** August 03, 2006, 07:30:15 AM »

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Originally posted by: Caliban

Recently I've been thinking of getting a new TV for my room, and I am leaning my purcahse for this one [url snip] . Obviously I want your opinions on it, but I would really like to know is how does it actually work if I have a GC or Wii plugged in running through component cables, I mean will it display gamesin 480p or will it try to upconvert?

Ok, well, ... aside from Ian rampaging back in and making a fool of himself again, here is what I know.

Dunno, if it's going to do any converting, but I *have* heard about HD-TV's having lag and/or being manufactured with "game" inputs to get around said "lag". I think it only affects a select few or specific types though. Since in all of my testing of my Gamecube on HD-tv's at walmart, bestbuy, CC, etc.. I never experienced said lag and the picture always looked brilliant.

The one thing I did notice and want you to be aware of though is large projection screen HDTV's will sometime's LOCK into 16:9 aspect ratio when fed a progressive video signal. Which means if your Wii or GC game is 4:3 and can't be switched to 16:9, the TV will not allow itself to be put in 4:3. Not all projection hdtv's do it, but I did notice it when I was browsing tv's awhile ago.

Caliban · « **Reply #47 on:** August 03, 2006, 10:45:05 AM »

Yeah I read up on that lag thing but I'm not too worried about it.

As for the 4:3 problem, thatnks for telling me and I am going to take that into consideration when I go buy it. I organized myself to ask several questions, like service plans, and etc...so I think I'm pretty much prepared.

MaryJane · « **Reply #48 on:** August 03, 2006, 12:16:06 PM »

This is the t.v i'm thinking about getting, or I should say, will be buying in 2 weeks time. Or the 50 inch if I get the raise I've been pining for.

Opinions?

Caliban · « **Reply #49 on:** August 03, 2006, 01:12:23 PM »

Like you MaryJane I was going to go for a 42" plasma, but then I remembered about burn-in side-effects (don't be alarmed by it, some brands have in their specs an anti-burn-in) and I decided for DLP.

DLP has its own set of side-effects too but it was a 50" and at the same price as the plasma. I'm gonna have to delay my buy but only because the sale ends today at FS, and I didn't notice it before, bummer.

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Author Topic: New TV for the upcoming Revolution (Read 14626 times)