Topic: NEW Super Mario Bros. Title?

[thepoga]

On IGN they have a link that shows the boxart for "NEW Super Mario Bros."
http://media.ds.ign.com/media/682/682879/img_3436174.html

It still has the NEW title attached to it. Is this really the final name? And I don't know about you, but I'm not feeling too excited over the boxart.
The name is most likely temporary so what do you all think that the final name will be? They probably won't do Super Mario DS because of Super Mario 64 DS. I think the best name would be Super Mario World 3. So 2D Mario platformers will keep a theme or something. I hope at the very least that they don't attach the DS part as Double Siblings or something. At least its not the mess that Super Mario Advance 4: Super Mario Bros. 3 is. Maybe they could make it Super Mario Bros. 4?

[Artimus]

If they do go with the name then they need a good, strong smack. Super Mario Bros. DS sucks but it's better than NEW.

[Bill Aurion]

It's...a name...

[jasonditz]

they list that as the title on the nintendo.com games list too... seems like kind of a silly name though... when the game's been out for a few years will they call it "Somewhat Less New Mario"? Will the sequel be called "Newer Super Mario Bros."? I'd just call it SMB: 2006 Edition before I slapped "new" in the title of something.

I'd rather they try to go with the DS theme: maybe Super Mario Bros: Dangerous Shells.

[stevey]

Super Mario Bros. reggie's re-butt kicking

[Caliban]

Did the title "Super Princess Peach" stop me (male, 24) from getting the game, NOPE!

[Mario]

I hated NEW Super Mario Bros at first but now it's grown on me. It feels Nintendo-ish! Also, I imagine there would be a lot of confusion about handheld Mario titles, this one everyone will know is brand new.

It is going to cause some confusion in the future though, when a new SMB game is about to come out.

<Dude> Yo, you dig the new SMB?
<Dudette> I got that ages ago! Get with the times!
<Dude> Nah the new one!
<Dudette> New Super Mario Bros?
<Dude> Yeah!
<Dudette> Yeah I have that!
<Dude> But it's not out yet!

[Chris1]

Well, I like the name, I also like how they're using that old font again!  Thats cool

[jasonditz]

its fine for right now, but it's going to be confusing if there's ever a sequel, and it's going to sound silly in a few years when it's not "New" anymore.

This isn't some one time shot that people aren't going to care about in a few years, it's the first original 2D Mario title in a decade, the marketing team needs to have an eye on its place in history.

[wandering]

I like it.

It's very New Coke-ish.

[animecyberrat]

oops edited the wrong thread damn its late.  

[Pale]

I just want to know what they are gonna do when another new super mario brothers comes out...

New Super Mario Bros. 2?

Then in 3 can I wear a raccoon suit?

That'd be sweet.

[Strell]

SMB DS2 will be called Mario: New and Improved.

[Ian Sane]

My greatest fear regarding this game is that they'll f*ck it up.  I've been waiting for this game since 1995 so it will be incredibly crushing to me if it sucks.  Nintendo's not perfect so I figure they're going to screw something up so maybe it's good that the name is so horrible because that's really not that big of a deal and if they use their "sure to screw something up" card on that then we're okay.  Yes that's insane logic but I'm sticking to it.

One thing I really don't like about the title is that it suggests a new take on the original Super Mario Bros.  I don't really want some nostalgic throwback.  I want a new Mario sidescroller like if gaming stayed in 2D what sort of Mario game we would have got around 1998.

[vudu]

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My greatest fear regarding this game is that they'll f*ck it up. I've been waiting for this game since 1995 so it will be incredibly crushing to me if it sucks. Nintendo's not perfect so I figure they're going to screw something up so maybe it's good that the name is so horrible because that's really not that big of a deal and if they use their "sure to screw something up" card on that then we're okay.  Yes that's insane logic but I'm sticking to it.

Ian, seriously, WTF.  That's not what we're even talking about.  We're discussing the name, not the gameplay.  You just want an excuse to bitch and moan.

Nintendo should ditch the numbering of sequels and just give it a subtitle (which they already did for Sunshine).  I say call this one Super Mario Bros:  Tiku Tiku Tiku!

[KDR_11k]

Come on, Ian. I've been waiting for MvDK for roughly as long and while it didn't entirely live up to expectations it was ~90% there.

[Strell]

I have to lift this from a favorite poster of mine at another forum:

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A lot of people are wondering (well, from some of the blog sites I've read anyway) about whether the new Mario game will be any good with a "no name" like Takashi Tezuka working on it. I thought I should just point out some of the other projects he worked on:
http://gonintendo.com/wp-content/photos/timeline.JPG

Yea, I'm not worried.

[Ian Sane]

"Ian, seriously, WTF. That's not what we're even talking about. We're discussing the name, not the gameplay. You just want an excuse to bitch and moan."

Did you actually read what I wrote?

Summed up my point is that every game always has something wrong with it and in this case it might as well be the name because that's a minor point.  If they're going to goof something up better it be the name then the game content itself.

[Deguello]

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One thing I really don't like about the title is that it suggests a new take on the original Super Mario Bros. I don't really want some nostalgic throwback.

I think this is really the crux with everyone's problem with you, Ian.  Essentially, in two short sentences and tweny-nine words, you have captured the very essence of moronic dichotomy.

It's funny that you would deride a new take on Mario, and yet you say you have been waiting for this game since 1995.  This would indicate that you include Yoshi's Island, which was about as different a take on Mario as you could get.  It turned the game on its head, really.

Additionally you say you don't want a nostalgia trip.  If this is your wish, just why do you want to play this game?  It is going to be nostalgic by default, unless they do something new with it, which apparently is out of the question.

This is thin ice, buddy.  I mean it.

[Ian Sane]

"It's funny that you would deride a new take on Mario, and yet you say you have been waiting for this game since 1995."

You misinterpreted what I was saying.  I don't just want a new take on "Super Mario Bros" as in the original 1985 game.  The "New" suggests that the idea was to recreate Super Mario Bros with some new ideas and levels.  In other words make a nostalgic tip of the hat to the original game.  I don't want just that.  I would prefer something with the same newness the classic Mario titles had when they were released.  There were always enemies from the earlier games and such but it wasn't all nostalgia.  The appeal of the game was that it was a new Mario game and there were all sorts of new stuff to check out, not that it was a trip through old times fondly remembered.  I've noticed with a lot of sequels where there's several years in between games there's this tendency to play like a greatest hits and the game is full of old stuff the fans remember but there's little new stuff.

[jasonditz]

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Originally posted by: Deguello


Additionally you say you don't want a nostalgia trip.  If this is your wish, just why do you want to play this game?  It is going to be nostalgic by default, unless they do something new with it, which apparently is out of the question.

This is thin ice, buddy.  I mean it.

Actually I get what he's saying there... this game needs to be a legitimate Mario 2D game that stands on its own two feet and is a legitimate successor to the long line of great games, and not just something like the Mario level in SSBM's adventure mode that's just a pale imitiation of a game we all know and love.

[Luffy1Piece]

New Super Mario Bros. is probably the best possible name they could come up with for what they want to achieve.

Super Mario Bros. DS is too close to Super Mario 64 DS(The Super Mario Advance games don't help with this much either) which was a revamped version of an older Mario title. This creates the connatation that Super Mario Bros. DS is a remake of the original Super Mario Bros. Coming up with a logical subtitle is also hard since there isn't much to work with. We already know the story is the princess is kidnapped by Bowser yet again, there's not much you can do with that to create a clever subtitle. Also, creating a subtitle like Super Mario Bros Double Sized ( As well as the suggested in this thread, Super Mario Bros 2006 Edition) or something of the sort just goes back to feeling like a remake rather than a new game. I've heard people suggest that it should be called Super Mario Bros. Adventure or Super Mario Bros. Legends and this just makes it sound like another Mario RPG game and not a new platformer. Super Mario Bros. Neo has been thrown around by fans and while it's not quite as obnoxious as say Super Mario Bros. Xtreme or Super Mario Bros. Hardcore, it nevertheless doesn't sound very Mario-ish and doesn't fit very well. It'd work well for Mega Man but not Mario.

Ultimately the reason why this name is best for Nintendo is because it's not targeted at you or me. Nintendo knows we'll buy this game no matter what it's called just on virtue of it being a new Mario sidescroller from EAD. Nintendo isn't just releasing software in void for only us traditional gamers anymore. Nintendo's strategy with both the DS and Revolution is about appealing to us, older drop-out gamers and people who never played games much at all before if ever. It's these later two groups who this title is targeted towards. Do you really have any idea how many people played the original Super Mario Bros. but never followed up with any of the subsequent games in the franchise? There a many, many, many people who have because everybody played Super Mario Bros. back then. Your mom played it, your dad played it even your uncle with the funny haircut and beer breath played it. It was a game like Pong and Pac-man before it and Tetris since it's release, managed to penetrate the general populace in ways games like GTA, Madden etc. could only dream of. It's meant to stir memories and emotions in those people, to make them say, "Hey, they made a new Super Mario Bros.! I used to love that game!". Then at the very least, pick it up and look at the back of the box and check it out if not outright buy it.

[IceCold]

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You misinterpreted what I was saying. I don't just want a new take on "Super Mario Bros" as in the original 1985 game. The "New" suggests that the idea was to recreate Super Mario Bros with some new ideas and levels. In other words make a nostalgic tip of the hat to the original game.

Even if you've gone spoiler-free for a while like me, I'm sure you've seen some screens and videos. Looking at those, does it look in any way like it will be a SMB recreation. Not at all..

[Michael8983]

I honestly would love to see a series of "new" titles.
New Super Mario Bros
New Super Mario Bros 2
New Super Mario Bros 3
New Super Mario World
New Super Mario World 2

Basically take the original games, create new levels in the same style, add additional gameplay elements.
Basically great games remixed into new, great games. This could very well be Nintendo's plan.

[Artimus]

THEY'RE BACK BACK BACK BACK BACK! BEST GAME EVAH!!!111!!

"According to a recent Nintendo Power interview with Takashi Tezuka, New Super Mario Bros. for the DS will feature the return of the beloved koopalings."

http://www.joystiq.com/2006/03/09/koopalings-to-return-in-new-super-mario-bros-yoshi-on-the-side/


Oh HAPPY DAY!