Author Topic: Rumblings of Revolution controller redesign (Read 23164 times)

nemo_83 · « **on:** October 25, 2005, 09:15:32 AM »

There is a story going around the controller is yet to be fully revealed. This makes sense. Surly Nintendo will reveal some kind of charger that allows gamers to continue playing while charging. Some head gear like a microphone may be in the works, but I doubt there will be any vr going on. Most likely what has yet to be revealed is the shell. I modified ign's shell just because it was available and I kind of liked it. I made the b button bean shaped and attempted to turn the second analog stick into a trackball. If I were using a Mac the picture would look better and I would have replaced the z buttons with mouse style scroll wheels. My photo editor is lame, but check it out in my avatar.

Here is the piece on the controller from
nintendo-revolution.blogspot

"The Nintendo-prone studio Camelot seemingly made a very cryptic statement when the controller was revealed. Here´s what they wrote:

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?IGN?

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???TGS?

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Now, Babelfish translates this into the following:
Tokyo game show

The pattern which becomes details announcement of the controller of ??....... It is the overseas sight, but don't you think? being recorded before IGN hugely, it increases. Bodily sensation

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Night postscript: Don't you think?, the new arrival picture of revolution (includes the controller) being released, it increases even with the Nintendo Co. sight. Also TGS forum keynote presentation flowing with the streaming, it increases. Because the meeting place it could not go, just a little you will see.......

Furthermore postscript: The extent which becomes well. The just a little real thing it comes seeing? (It is displayed kana?)
The statement is by their Webmaster, who seems to be hinting at the fact that the controller has not yet been revealed in all its functionality. Can anyone translate this properly, please? There might be something of interest in there.

Source: Camelot"

Stimutacs Addict · « **Reply #1 on:** October 25, 2005, 09:27:55 AM »

im on a mac and still dont have any photo editing software (any recommendations, anyone? I had photoshop 7.0 on windows) or DVD copying applications (i just want to make travel copies of my better DVDs, i'd hate to scratch up Home Movies when I'm watching it on my portable DvD player)

on topic: I think the only thing missing is the microphone/earpiece for online play... they need to incorporate it into one of those bluetooth headphone/mic instruments people use with cell phones.

KnowsNothing · « **Reply #2 on:** October 25, 2005, 09:43:02 AM »

There's not going to be a redesign of the controller, but I know for a fact that Nintendo has more tricks up its sleeve, possibly still dealing with the controller.

Rhoq · « **Reply #3 on:** October 25, 2005, 09:48:37 AM »

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Originally posted by: Stimutacs Addict
im on a mac and still dont have any photo editing software (any recommendations, anyone? I had photoshop 7.0 on windows) or DVD copying applications (i just want to make travel copies of my better DVDs, i'd hate to scratch up Home Movies when I'm watching it on my portable DvD player)

For Photo Editing
Photoshop CS

For (1) DVD Extraction, (2) Compression and (3) Burning:
1. MacThe Ripper
2. DVD2OneX
3. Toast Titanium

(You can also use Roxio's Popcorn or Toast 7 to combine 2 & 3 into one process, though I've heard nothing beats DVD2One X for compression). These 3 steps are what I swear by for DVD back-up.

wandering · « **Reply #4 on:** October 25, 2005, 09:49:23 AM »

"Bodily sensation"
"Because the meeting place it could not go, just a little you will see......."

So, the rev will give you unique bodily sensations, that might not be appropriate for demonstration in a public meeting place, eh? Count me in!

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im on a mac and still dont have any photo editing software (any recommendations, anyone? I had photoshop 7.0 on windows)

I dunno, mac has all the ususal suspects (photoshop, paint shop, gimp, etc... oh, and the new iphoto apparently has photo editing). I guess I like photoshop, personally.

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DVD copying applications (i just want to make travel copies of my better DVDs

Riiiiight, whatever you say.

Bill Aurion · « **Reply #5 on:** October 25, 2005, 10:31:32 AM »

I really love Camelot's website...There's a lot of random stuff that really doesn't have a reason to be there but to show that the Camelot staff knows how to have fun...But anyways, back on topic, of course there's more to the controller that hasn't been shown yet! It just won't be a redesign, but additional functionality that's hidden within the already-shown Revmote...

Hostile Creation · « **Reply #6 on:** October 25, 2005, 10:58:32 AM »

Knowsnothing, faith is not a fact!

nemo_83 · « **Reply #7 on:** October 25, 2005, 11:00:50 AM »

I recall a black and white blurry picture of an evolved wavebird with a slot on the front like ign's shell before E3 with a bean shaped b button and two analog sticks, both in the secondary position odly enough.

Bill Aurion · « **Reply #8 on:** October 25, 2005, 11:06:34 AM »

If Ninty ever devolved to the horrible Dual Shock analog set-up I'd never play a Nintendo game ever again...That's how confident I am that they won't swing that way...

KnowsNothing · « **Reply #9 on:** October 25, 2005, 11:37:17 AM »

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Knowsnothing, faith is not a fact!

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Eurogamer: Is the freehand-style controller your trump card, or have we got more exciting stuff to look forward to?

Jim Merrick: Let's just say we have more surprises in store.

He also mentions in that interview that the controller we've seen is bascially the final product. He could have just meant externally, there could be more functions we don't know about, but I don't think we're going to see any major redesign.

Ian Sane · « **Reply #10 on:** October 25, 2005, 11:45:38 AM »

"I made the b button bean shaped and attempted to turn the second analog stick into a trackball."

A trackball isn't a bad idea in theory though in this case I think it's a little redundant. A second analog stick might make more sense. A lot of the trackball functionality is available in the remote and with the shell the remotes motion control should still be an option. You should be able to still move the control around with the remote in the shell it just will be a little more awkward than the remote itself.

Those of you saying there will be no redesign do you have anything solid to back that up or do you just not want a redesign so you're saying there won't be one? I figure there will be some changes made. Even the Cube controller had the b-button changed from a bean to a circle. It might not be anything drastic but I figure some change will be made. I still think they should put four bean buttons surrounding the big A button. That setup works great on my TV remote as I can easily change channels and volume without looking.

Artimus · « **Reply #11 on:** October 25, 2005, 11:46:21 AM »

I don't see what this has to do with a redesign.

ThePerm · « **Reply #12 on:** October 25, 2005, 03:54:11 PM »

if i t does get a redesign then i want it to be something simple and n ot drastic...like the chaging of the b button on the gcn controller from a kidney to a circle...that A button is looking lonely....why not but a kidney b to the left of it and rename the button underneath?

Hostile Creation · « **Reply #13 on:** October 25, 2005, 04:28:47 PM »

Totally missed the Arrested Development reference, KN

zakkiel · « **Reply #14 on:** October 25, 2005, 04:30:09 PM »

There was an interview a while back where someone asked whether Nintendo might redesign the controller. Nintendo said they reserved the right to round corners and move buttons, but it was basically done.

KnowsNothing · « **Reply #15 on:** October 25, 2005, 04:31:12 PM »

Aww, and the loser is me

I don't watch AD, please don't hurt me.

trip1eX · « **Reply #16 on:** October 25, 2005, 04:36:31 PM »

Well I know I read before from one of Nintendo's bigwigs that they haven't revealed everything about the Revolution yet. So me thinks they are still holding a card or two up their sleeve.

ThePerm · « **Reply #17 on:** October 25, 2005, 06:57:36 PM »

http://theperm.tetrametrics.com/Images/rev/kidney.jpg

nemo_83 · « **Reply #18 on:** October 25, 2005, 07:18:53 PM »

Cool Perm. Could you put another one on the other side of the A button as well and turn the A button into a trackball of the same size just for sh!ts and giggles? I want to see what it would look like.

I was thinking a second ago that two remotes could be linked together, each at the bottom via a connector. Now that I have thought about it maybe it isn't such a great idea.

NinGurl69 *huggles · « **Reply #19 on:** October 25, 2005, 07:30:29 PM »

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Originally posted by: ThePerm
http://theperm.tetrametrics.com/Images/rev/kidney.jpg

SORRY NO, that just killed the nice, neutral, ambidextrous nature of the original design. Go ahead and add a C button to the right of the A button to balance things out and the trackball to go farther away from simplicity again AND COMPLETELY RUIN THE ORIGINAL NES CONTROL PAD SCHEME. Trackballs will give thumbs needless workouts compared to d-pads and analog sticks.

Just replace the round A-button with 2 kidney A,B buttons. A above, and B below, so it's more like you cut the round A-button in half along the transverse axis.

ThePerm · « **Reply #20 on:** October 25, 2005, 10:06:24 PM »

hey im not the o nly one with photoshop....

ShyGuy · « **Reply #21 on:** October 25, 2005, 10:15:38 PM »

Perm, that controller is teh bias against left handers!

I wouldn't object if more buttons were added, but I think part of the design of the rev controller is simplicity and minimalism.

MrMojoRising · « **Reply #22 on:** October 25, 2005, 11:53:35 PM »

I think you just need to make it symetrical.

couchmonkey · « **Reply #23 on:** October 26, 2005, 07:48:50 AM »

It's supposed to be simple! Adding extra stuff just cancels out Nintendo's whole plan to make gaming less scary for a casual audience. A trackball duplicates the whole gesture aspect of the controller in a less intuitive way.

I'm not even sure a second button is a good idea. When I tried making one, it looked kind of awkward to me. If someone could come up with a more comfortable way to place the two buttons there, it might be okay, but I'm thinking Nintendo has got the thing just about right already. Three buttons around the "A" position is unecessary.

Edit: grammar.

Ian Sane · « **Reply #24 on:** October 26, 2005, 09:00:01 AM »

Here is a picture of my TV remote.

It's a small pic but you can see the menu button in the center with the volume and channel buttons surrounding it. The other remotes on this site have a similar design. That is what I want to see with the Rev. I can easily reach all five buttons without looking and this allows for six buttons total so it can play SNES and N64 games without the shell (N64 would require the nunchuk still).

If you don't like the idea please give me a real reason why it's no good instead of that stupid "OMG! Non-gamers are scared of too many buttons!" bullsh!t that Nintendo has planted into some of your heads. These TV remotes have WAY more buttons than the Rev controller will ever have and somehow they don't scare people away from watching TV.

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Author Topic: Rumblings of Revolution controller redesign (Read 23164 times)