Topic: Next Generation's Optical Format

[Djunknown]

As far as games is concerned, I'm taking a wild guess that Sony will be the odd one out when it comes to disc-media.  With MS launching their next console this year, there's no way that they'll delay everything just to switch formats. Nintendo is wishy-washy as of this writing. First they announce Hi-def, then retract it. They did say that they'll use 12 cm discs.  What's to say that isn't true?

As a whole, I'm still looking at it from a consumer's perspective. Why do I need more bleeding edge technology now? What good is these uber-discs without the hi-def tv and surround sound? With premium entertainment, there's a premium price that not everyone can afford.

I believe the PS3 will be pure Blu-ray at least when it comes to games. If nothing else, they'll flex their muscle just to say they did it. With the PS3 not labled as a pure game machine straight from  Kutaragi's mouth, will this be enough to put Blu-ray on the map?

EDIT: I'm claiming ignorance here, but how would this hybrid unification idea work exactly?

[IceCold]

UPDATE

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Kutaragi confirms end to Blu-Ray negotiations

Sony and Toshiba fail to reach agreement on unified next-gen disc format

Just weeks after announcing there was "little chance" of reaching an agreement on the issue of a unified next-gen disc format, SCE president Ken Kutaragi has confirmed that negotiations are at an end.

Speaking to Nikkei Electronics, Kutaragi said that it was "game over" for talks between Sony, which supports the Blu-Ray format, and HD-DVD supporter Toshiba.

Negotiations began back in February, but the two companies failed to reach an agreement on storage capacities. Blu-Ray discs can hold 50GB of data while HD-DVD discs only hold 30GB, but the HD-DVD camp argues that lower manufacturing costs make for a cheaper, more consumer-friendly product.

Earlier this month Kutaragi said the negotiations were troubled after Toshiba refused to accept Blu-Ray as the basis for a unified format. It now seems inevitable that both formats will hit the market when the next generation of DVD players rolls out at the end of the year, despite Sony's efforts to avoid another format war of the VHS vs. Betamax kind.

Kutaragi went on to discuss Sony's Cell networked processor, which will be used in the PlayStation 3 along with a range of other consumer electronics devices such as "smart TVs".

He told Nikkei Electronics that the microprocessor features eight synergistic processor elements or SPEs because the number eight is an "exponential aesthetic". However, only seven of these will be used as this is "the ultimate aesthetic" with regards to engineering - as announced by Sony at this year's E3, leaving one SPE unused should improve chip yield and slash production costs.

Interesting..  

[KDR_11k]

Is that even SCE's department?

[BlackNMild2k1]

Remember this thread?

That man is living his fantasy and its everyone elses job around him to keep the fantasy alive.
similar to that movie 'Truman'
He is just being over arrogant instigator as I'm sure he doesn't have much input as to how the negotiations go

[KDR_11k]

BTW, four days later Sony resumed these talks under new management.

[nickmitch]

This deal is flickering on and off like a broken light fixture.

[Renny]

Update on the Xbox 360. [File this under "holy cow."]

Xbox 360 might incorporate HD-DVD

Looks like MS is already feeling the effects of perceived inferiority. Are they willing to screw their immediate fanbase to 'compete' with the PS3 in the numbers game?

'Our disc is bigger than yours.'

'We have more FPSes than you.'

Which to buy?

[vudu]

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“The initial shipments of Xbox 360 will be based on today's DVD format,” Gates confirmed. “We are looking at whether future versions of Xbox 360 will incorporate an additional capability of an HD DVD player or something else.”

How would that work?  Would they have to sell a separate detachable HD-DVD player to those who purchased the original Xbox 360?  

Xbox 360 is going to have the most successful launch ever.

[KDR_11k]

Gates loves to talk completely impossible crap. Wouldn't surprise me if he's wrong again.

[Toruresu]

On July's Nintendo Power I read that the Revolution would use dual layer DVDs. Has this been confirmed by nintendo's PR Dept.?

[stevey]

"How would that work? "

Easy, MS will f*ck the early buyer and make them rebuy it because they know early buyer have lot $$$ to spend and late buyer only have ¢¢¢. Just look at the price of there game 59.99.  

[IceCold]

"On July's Nintendo Power I read that the Revolution would use dual layer DVDs. "

Dual layered 12cm optical discs.

[KDR_11k]

They said DVDs at some point but retracted the statement. It was Kaplan who mentioned the DVDs so I don't think the discs are actually DVDs, just Kaplan being as clueless as always.

[BlackNMild2k1]

late to post, but this is labeled under gossip

Toshiba says MS to use HD-DVD and just hasn't announced it yet

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June 30th, 2005
Here’s an interesting tid-bit: Toshiba was showing off their Fall line-up the other day and demoed a HD-DVD that was being created in conjunction with Microsoft. This, of course, was well before the official Xbox software announcement, but now attendees are starting to wonder if references to the device’s ability to download games and play them may be tied into the Xbox software deal.

Oh, and the Toshiba folks also spilled the beans on HD-DVD and the Xbox 360, saying that the next-gen console will use the new format for its media and whining about how Microsoft is dragging their feet on the official announcement.

take this for what its worth......  

[IceCold]

Agh, I already posted this on the other thread...

I thought MS was using DVDs at first then switching to HD-DVD.

[BlackNMild2k1]

but this one implied that HD-DVD is going to be THE media format. and not just included in the Xbox360+ (at least thats how I read it), considering that this story was posted two days after the Bill Gates X360+ posibility