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Offline Noble~Feather

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RE: Something important to know about the Revolution
« Reply #150 on: February 08, 2005, 08:41:32 AM »
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Nobel Feather, how do you know so much again about this? People on this board actually seem to listen to you, and not take you with a grain of salt like most rumor starters...so how do you know this information?

From the last comment I suspect a few things.

1)Backwards compatiability, interesting...so is Nintendo going to keep that mini-disk format, but with a different, larger capacity disks?

2)You purposefully mentioned using the analog stick to play Zelda and Mario...so are you hinting that the control device will be that radically different. The difference between playing with an analog stick and the D-Pad is pretty great...sometimes it works, other times it ruins the game, so this kinda worries me.


1) I believe I said in the beginning of this thread.

2) I honestly don't know what the size of the discs are, but I do know it's is backwards compatible, and that the media can hold ALOT of data. In other words, such games like Kingdom Hearts [I think] can't be be put on the Cube because of all the voice work.  We won't have worry about that with the Revo.

3) Think about Viewtiful Joe. That game was great. Also keep in mind the Gcube still has a d-pad to play with.

The controls just make games more accurate, and it controls fine. I kinda don't know how to explain it now, so you'll have to wait.

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"Think of it this way, GCN can still play 2D games like Mario or Zelda, only it can do it with an analogue stick."

So it's useless for any game that requires digital control? Nice to know ahead of time that the mistakes of the Cube controller are being made WORSE for the Revolution.

How the hell can there be backwards compatibility with no d-pad? Though few (or possibly no) Cube games exclusively use the d-pad for movement several games like Rogue Leader and Metroid Prime use it as extra buttons.

Unless the analog stick somehow can function in both an analog or digital mode. If possible that would be revolutionary and incredibly flexible.
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You hardly know anything about the Revolution and you're already making assumptions?

Wow.
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RE: Something important to know about the Revolution
« Reply #151 on: February 08, 2005, 09:18:53 AM »
MKA used the dpad exclusively for movement, just FYI.  I think that might be the only one.  I personally prefer the analog stick in a things.  Fight games included.  Many of the fight games i play uses sweeps for specials anyway.
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RE: Something important to know about the Revolution
« Reply #152 on: February 08, 2005, 10:11:12 AM »
There's always the chance that the GC and Rev controller plugs are the same, thus allowing you to use the GC controller for backwards-compatibility...
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RE: Something important to know about the Revolution
« Reply #153 on: February 08, 2005, 11:05:42 AM »
"There's always the chance that the GC and Rev controller plugs are the same, thus allowing you to use the GC controller for backwards-compatibility..."

That all fine and good for us Cube owners.  But what about those who don't have a Cube who buy a Revolution?  The appeal of backwards compatibility is hurt somewhat by a need to buy two whole sets of controllers.  One of the best things about the PS2 and GBA backwards compatibility is that it works right out of the box.  To some people backwards compatibility of a console they don't own is very enticing.  It allows them to play a whole generation's worth of games they missed out on AND lets them play new games.  Those people are going to be put off when they find out they have to buy a Cube controller to make use of the feature.  In order to get the most out of the Revolution they would have to buy EIGHT controllers.  Connectivity and the SP gave Nintendo a negative image as a greedy company who releases redundant accessories to rip the consumer off.  They don't need the Revolution's first impression to be that of a rip-off console.

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RE: Something important to know about the Revolution
« Reply #154 on: February 08, 2005, 11:16:00 AM »
Then I don't want to hear your complaining about how the Rev controller's layout is similar to that of the GC...
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RE: Something important to know about the Revolution
« Reply #155 on: February 08, 2005, 12:05:05 PM »
"Then I don't want to hear your complaining about how the Rev controller's layout is similar to that of the GC..."

Well they can make a controller that's different but is also similar enough to work well with Cube games.  A larger d-pad or an extra z-button for example won't goof up Cube games.  And realistically they could add a button on each side of the y button and thus have a six face button layout that still works well for Cube games and would be really swank if it allowed you to customize what button does what (that would fix Mega Man AC).

There's room to expand on the controller design and still allow easy playability for Cube games let alone all games.

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RE: Something important to know about the Revolution
« Reply #156 on: February 08, 2005, 02:30:40 PM »
Bleh, please not 6 face buttons.  There is no need for that many buttons on the front.  It would give more frustration than pleasure.  I personally expect the controllers to use the same plug as the original gamecube and have the same button configurations.  They will however release a new version of it that has a better d-pad, z-button placement, etc.  It would be a great thing to have.  Wouldn't you love to not have to buy 3 extra controllers off the bat to play 4 player games?  My initial Gamecube investment was huge because of this.
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RE: Something important to know about the Revolution
« Reply #157 on: February 09, 2005, 03:30:59 AM »
I'm all for six face buttons (go fighters!), but i'll gladly settle for a first party arcade stick (has that EVER been done?).
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RE: Something important to know about the Revolution
« Reply #158 on: February 09, 2005, 06:06:06 AM »
I'd settle for more fighters using the 3+1 layout instead of going with six buttons.

Anyway, wasn't that "no Dpad" bit only a rumor?

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RE: Something important to know about the Revolution
« Reply #159 on: February 09, 2005, 06:13:20 AM »
the no d-pad is only a rumor.  

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RE: Something important to know about the Revolution
« Reply #160 on: February 09, 2005, 06:13:31 AM »
That is affirmative...
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RE:Something important to know about the Revolution
« Reply #161 on: February 14, 2005, 08:11:59 AM »
You know I'm worried about the Revolution because I just learned the new Godfather game is going to to be for all next gen consoles except Revolution, and this makes me wonder if Revolution even stands a chance at being a success since already developers don't want to port their games on to the sysem.  Ugh, I hope Nintendo proves me wrong at E3 and they actually do get a ton of support for the Revolution.

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RE: Something important to know about the Revolution
« Reply #162 on: February 14, 2005, 08:33:54 AM »
I thought Godfather was coming out for Xbox, PS2 and PC.  As far as I know, nothing about next gen consoles has been mentioned.
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RE: Something important to know about the Revolution
« Reply #163 on: February 14, 2005, 08:57:02 AM »
Some people like calling the current round of consoles "next gen" for some stupid reason...  
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RE: Something important to know about the Revolution
« Reply #164 on: February 14, 2005, 09:27:13 AM »
Godfather is coming out on PS2, Xbox, PC and Xbox 2. It's not coming out on PS3.
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RE: Something important to know about the Revolution
« Reply #165 on: February 14, 2005, 10:03:40 AM »
well I'm assuming it wont since the ps3 and Rev wont be out for another yr.  Porting a yr old game for their release ain't going to look so hot.  Xbox 2 is getting a version becuase its coming out sometime this yr.  Anyways, its EA, I wouldnt be suprised if they did eventually release a version for ps3 and Rev further down the road.
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RE: Something important to know about the Revolution
« Reply #166 on: February 14, 2005, 11:13:18 AM »
Godfather looks overrated. Even IGN wasn't too impressed.

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RE: Something important to know about the Revolution
« Reply #167 on: February 14, 2005, 11:59:21 AM »
The movie was good, though.
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RE:Something important to know about the Revolution
« Reply #168 on: February 14, 2005, 02:03:07 PM »
My bad I saw a web-site today that said it was going to be for all next gen consoles except Revolution, but apparently upon looking at my friends EGM its for the current gen and x-box 2.

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RE:Something important to know about the Revolution
« Reply #169 on: February 15, 2005, 02:04:44 PM »
I have a question, why is everyone buying into this guys bogus comments?  The exact same thing happened when gamecube was called dolphin.  Some guy came onto the forum, said that he had the specs for project dolphin and would post them later that day.  As always, he had some inside information.  Next thing you know, he cant say anything.  There's always some guy claiming to have information that he doesnt, but I have never seen people fall for it like this.  I would say that there is about a 1% chance this guy is for real, but even if he is telling the truth, he let everyone down when he didnt share the info.
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RE: Something important to know about the Revolution
« Reply #170 on: February 15, 2005, 02:37:15 PM »
Hopefully in about 3 months, it really won't matter.
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RE:Something important to know about the Revolution
« Reply #171 on: February 15, 2005, 02:38:51 PM »
Thats very true.  
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RE:Something important to know about the Revolution
« Reply #172 on: February 15, 2005, 03:18:25 PM »
WHy can't we be gullible.  It's not like it does any harm.  If we want to believe then let us.  That's like getting pissed off at Priests for claiming about God.  It doesn't make any sense does it?
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RE:Something important to know about the Revolution
« Reply #173 on: February 15, 2005, 08:01:57 PM »
Do you actually believe any of us believe him?  None of us here would swear that what he is saying is 100 percent true but since there is VERY little info going around, his comments give everyone something to chat over.  We may ask him questions here and there but thats just so we can have something to think about till the facts are presented.
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RE: Something important to know about the Revolution
« Reply #174 on: March 02, 2005, 07:09:02 AM »
 "Think of it this way, GCN can still play 2D games like Mario or Zelda, only it can do it with an analogue stick."

Ian exaggerates agian. Noble~Feather is saying: The REV is like when you played 2-D mario on your snes, but now that you got a Cube you can use your analog stick for more accurate movement. He said nothing about the ommision of the D-pad. The Revolution will have some sort of input that will allow for more accurate movements; even more accurate than an analog stick. How? Who knows.....

A question for NOBLE~FEATHER that won't make you "spill the beans":

Is the Revolution itself revolutionary, or is it the controller? And if both, is one of the aspects because it attaches to a computer monitor?
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