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Re: Lulzsec has been taken down
« Reply #75 on: June 17, 2012, 01:05:18 AM »
Before this gets too political, let me say - the US Government is not Team America: World Police.

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Re: Lulzsec has been taken down
« Reply #76 on: June 17, 2012, 01:12:46 AM »
Lulzsec are subhuman filth, I fully support the unmanned drone solution.
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Re: Lulzsec has been taken down
« Reply #77 on: June 17, 2012, 01:14:49 AM »
Pretty sure all this hacking and silliness falls under freedom of speech...
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Re: Lulzsec has been taken down
« Reply #78 on: June 17, 2012, 01:17:08 AM »
Before this gets too political, let me say - the US Government is not Team America: World Police.

The UK Government has a right - and a responsibility - to protect the citizens under the crown from foreign powers who wish to do them harm.  Just the same as our government does.  If some random country came in and started accusing our citizens of crimes, I would fully expect our government to step up to the plate and make sure things are kosher.

I'm not saying they should hand over anybody to anyone for any reason. Britain and the U.S. are very close allies, and I'm sure they have a formalized extradition treaty that would stipulate the terms of something like this. If an American hacked British sites I'd expect the U.S. government to hand him over to the Brits for trial if they wanted him.

This is an interesting time for judicial systems, as it's now possible, thanks to the internet, to commit a crime in a country without ever entering it. Although now that I think about it there was a Simpsons episode featuring that idea that didn't use the internet at all, so maybe it's not that new.
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Re: Lulzsec has been taken down
« Reply #79 on: June 17, 2012, 01:30:23 AM »
I hear the extradition treaty they have now is kind of one-sided in the U.S.'s favor... I hear that's a thing.

I can't really imagine the U.S. handing over one of their citizens without at least a lot of footdragging, bargaining, or bad juju for whoever signs off on it.

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Re: Lulzsec has been taken down
« Reply #80 on: June 17, 2012, 01:34:28 AM »
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Perhaps - perhaps not.  That's fully and 100% for the UK courts to decide.  NOT the US Government.

Pretty sure all this hacking and silliness falls under freedom of speech...

"hacking" might fall under freedom of speech.  Hacking, no, does not.
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Re: Lulzsec has been taken down
« Reply #81 on: June 17, 2012, 01:44:12 AM »
Well yes, they could ignore the treaty or interpret it in such a way that doesn't require them to do it and say no to the U.S., and because of that they technically have more say in the matter than the American government does, but realistically that's not really the case.
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Re: Lulzsec has been taken down
« Reply #82 on: June 17, 2012, 01:46:07 AM »
I'd be willing to bet, there's a lot of wiggle room in that agreement...
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Re: Lulzsec has been taken down
« Reply #83 on: June 17, 2012, 01:49:26 AM »
Between those two countries, it would seem likely. But I'd be willing to bet that the real deciding factor of whether or not he'll be extradited is whether or not the U.S. wants him to be.
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Re: Lulzsec has been taken down
« Reply #84 on: June 17, 2012, 02:09:22 AM »
Well, I said they had a right and responsibility to make sure it's on the up-and-up.

Didn't say they would. :D
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Re: Lulzsec has been taken down
« Reply #85 on: June 17, 2012, 09:03:52 AM »
Queue the song.

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Re: Lulzsec has been taken down
« Reply #86 on: June 17, 2012, 01:02:36 PM »
Give the man a job in our Cyber war against Iran.

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Re: Lulzsec has been taken down
« Reply #87 on: June 20, 2012, 01:22:47 PM »
Give the man a job in our Cyber war against Iran.

Does Iran even have computers?
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Re: Lulzsec has been taken down
« Reply #88 on: June 20, 2012, 10:06:18 PM »
Give the man a job in our Cyber war against Iran.

Does Iran even have computers?
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Re: Lulzsec has been taken down
« Reply #89 on: June 21, 2012, 11:47:54 AM »
Give the man a job in our Cyber war against Iran.

Does Iran even have computers?
Are you...are you kidding?

No I'm not. Apparently it is illegal to export stuff like computers to Iran, so how would they get them unless they manufactured them locally? And if they manufactured their own computers locally, odds are they are going to be fairly primitive.
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Re: Lulzsec has been taken down
« Reply #90 on: June 21, 2012, 12:11:23 PM »
Computers are made in many countries...
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Re: Lulzsec has been taken down
« Reply #91 on: June 25, 2012, 04:14:06 AM »
Where's Morari lately? We need to hold hands and talk about how our love burns, like a cop on fire

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Re: Lulzsec has been taken down
« Reply #92 on: June 25, 2012, 08:57:15 AM »
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Re: Lulzsec has been taken down
« Reply #93 on: June 25, 2012, 09:14:23 AM »
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Re: Lulzsec has been taken down
« Reply #94 on: June 25, 2012, 07:25:01 PM »
Where's Morari lately?

Perhaps its not a coincidence that he disappeared around the same time these latest Lulzsec members were arrested? ;)
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Re: Lulzsec has been taken down
« Reply #95 on: June 25, 2012, 07:49:46 PM »
If SUPER gets ejected from Japan for being a terrorist, I will LOOOOOOOL