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Episode 173: Pokémon Uranium

by Jonathan Metts - December 6, 2009, 3:20 pm PST
Total comments: 41

Wired's Chris Kohler stops by to pimp his charity event and give away tricks for game collectors.

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This episode starts a man down, as Greg had a schedule conflict involving a certain football team. The rest of the podcast crew stumbles through New Business with precious little Nintendo content, but we make up for that in a highly speculative Listener Mail section covering the future of Pokémon and expectations for Nintendo's future hardware. We also talk about games that we disliked but played anyway -- what are your examples? Let us know what made you play a game that you hate!

After the break, returning champion Chris Kohler takes the fourth chair. He's getting the word out for Ümloud, a new charity event in San Francisco to benefit Child's Play. Following that, we take a fun tour down memory lane with a lengthy discussion of retro game collecting. Chris is something of an expert on the topic, and our own Jon Lindemann is also quite interested. If you've ever coveted the Vectrex, Amiga, or mint condition NES launch titles, you will love this segment!

We're always looking for great Listener Mail to read and discuss on the show, so please send your questions or comments! (We really love seeing your praise and feedback regarding the show itself; however, in the interest of time, we may edit your letter to be read on the podcast.)

Credits:

This podcast was edited by Greg Leahy.

Music for this episode of Radio Free Nintendo is used with permission from Jason Ricci & New Blood. You can purchase their newest album, Done with the Devil, directly from the record label, Amazon.com, or iTunes, or call your local record store and ask for it!

Additional music for this episode of Radio Free Nintendo is copyrighted to Nintendo, and is included under fair use protection.

Talkback

Talkback should be fixed now. Thanks, Aaron!

Invincible Donkey KongDecember 06, 2009

I think I got the Mario and Luigi backpack from the contest :)

Thanks to Chris for being on the show with us.  Umloud is a cool event for a great cause, and deserves all the support that the NWR community can give it.

Ahh, the Vectrex...

ShyGuyDecember 07, 2009

Kobun Heat should post here once in awhile, we don't bite.

I'm saving this episode for my Wii Fit Plus session tomorrow.

broodwarsDecember 07, 2009

I went through a period about 3 months ago where I was just sick of games.  It was around the time I had just done a massive dual-run through Fallout 3 to kill time while waiting for the PS3 version of Broken Steel so I could complete the game (I lost my "good" character's data, so I had to start from scratch and I needed an evil/neutral character for trophies).  I wanted to play something, but I couldn't find anything that I wanted to play.  Pretty much the way I got out of it was to go back to 2 games I really loved: Dead Space and Bioshock.  I decided just for the hell of it to do trophy runs through both games, those runs forcing me to enjoy those games in new and different ways.  It reinvigorated my interest in games again, and I haven't hit such a rut again since.  Of course, it certainly helped that from late September onward we had a barrage of great games.

I can definitely sympathize with loving a game, but never actually wanting to play it for various reasons.  For me, this always happens with Fire Emblem games and Persona games and pretty much for the same reason: besides the obscene amounts of time both games command, both require an insane amount of micromanagement: in the Fire Emblem games, I can't let a character die for any reason and I have to recruit everyone and acquire every item while maxing out leveling opportunity.  In the Persona games, you have to micromanage how you spend your time every day for maximum effectiveness, pretty much making it a secretarial simulator in many respects.  There is just so much minutiae in both games to keep track of constantly battling with my OCD that I never want to play either series, even when I have the time.  And mind you, I love both series and can really get on a roll after forcing myself to get back into them.  But I do have to force myself to play those games.

KDR_11kDecember 07, 2009

I like your pronunciation: Battle Turds FTW!


They still make SOTN soundtracks BTW, I got one from Play-Asia some time ago. There's a re-release of the PS1 version available too.

I've played a few games that I didn't think I'd like just to see what all the fuss was about. GTA4 (turned it off after an hour), Halo 3 (pathologically bad at it), Indigo Prophesy (ridiculous story)...I could go on.

ShyGuyDecember 07, 2009

Quote from: Halbred

Indigo Prophesy (ridiculous story)...I could go on.

http://www.nintendoworldreport.com/forums/index.php?action=dlattach;attach=999;type=avatar

I think a concience internet intelligence is much more far-fetched than a giant squid-headed alien sleeping at the bottom of the sea in a ruined city, thankyouverymuch.

yoshi1001December 07, 2009

A few notes about the Pokemon section:

-There are 493 Pokemon, not 475.
-Pokemon episodes were being shown on CN in primetime in the fall of 2006 (I believe this was done so the games, TV show, and cards would be in relative sync), though I don't recall it ever being on four stations at once. New movies/specials are often shown in prime time on CN.
-You forgot to "Freudian Slip" HGSS as "HeadGold/SoulSilver".

I'll have to listen again to see if there's anything else.

I think the 5th generation games will co-opt some of the DSi features (extra Wi-Fi protocol support, possibly an optional camera mode).

Sorry, Pokemon is still meant for kids. It's still marketed primarily at kids. There's actually a case study in my Public Relations book, which is recent (mentions Diamond & Pearl), that focuses on appealing to kids and their parents, since parents would buy the games for their kids.

People like us buy Pokemon on nostalgia value. In all honesty, I don't think Nintendo cares about us when it comes to Pokemon.

During the show I was going to call it HeadGold/SoulSilver, but I got off on a tangent and forgot.

CambotDecember 07, 2009

It was a great 'cast this week, guys. I found the retro game discussion quite interesting. I, too, know well the ways of the thrifts. Here are a couple landmark finds I've had in the past:


http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y139/ckeene/lot.jpg?t=1260243671


The SNES bundle was found at a thrift store in Houston that no longer exists. It was all in a box and was only $75.00 w/games, if memory serves. All the games are in perfect shape with books and maps that still 'crack' when you open them.


http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y139/ckeene/DSC_0012.jpg?t=1260243999


The X'Eye was $9.00 from another Houston thrift store, and the games were from a Salvation Army around the same time for only $1.00 each. Included Shining Force CD.


Much like your guest, Chris, I collect games to play and not to sell. In fact, I've only ever gotten rid of, maybe, ten games in my life - not including the ones I hand down to younger cousins and other family members.


http://img207.imageshack.us/img207/2205/dsc0164zb9.jpg


Here's a shot from my 'legacy room' in which I keep and play my older games on a CRT screen. My wife and I currently live and work in Canada, so we had to sell our home in the States and now we're renting. At least this room is warm and dry and doesn't smell - except for the smell of SNES boxes and history. ;) 


I think, for me, it all stems from the fact that we didn't have much money when I was a kid. And, foolishly, I didn't keep many of my games boxed. Now that I'm an adult, I like to look for little pieces of my youth and keep them to play. And one day, when my kid is old enough, he/she can see what kind of games dad used to play.

yoshi1001December 07, 2009

Quote from: NWR_Neal

People like us buy Pokemon on nostalgia value. In all honesty, I don't think Nintendo cares about us when it comes to Pokemon.

While most of the marketing is aimed at kids (and the majority of sales almost assuredly come from that area), as someone who's been to a large number of Pokemon TCG events (where the oldest age group is almost always the largest), Nintendo (or at least Pokemon Organized Play) does value older players. They may not cater their products in any significant way, but they definitely value older players as ambassadors and role models.

NWR_DrewMGAndy Goergen, AlmunusDecember 08, 2009

Quote from: Cambot

omg pictures

Holy crap, that is an inspiration to us all.  Nice, nice collection.  Especially Shining Force CD.  How is that game?  Is it a completely unique adventure, or a remake?

CambotDecember 08, 2009

Quote from: NWR_DrewMG

Quote from: Cambot

omg pictures

Holy crap, that is an inspiration to us all.  Nice, nice collection.  Especially Shining Force CD.  How is that game?  Is it a completely unique adventure, or a remake?

Thanks! It's a meager collection - puny, even - compared to some pics I've seen on the internet. But It's most of my favorite games (plus more), and, thus, I've slowed down on my acquisitions recently. I still go to thrift stores to find vinyl records and cheap CDs, and I'll still check out the games and electronics just in case I see something I must have. Like Chris said on the show, it's not just about finding the item. EBay can get you anything you want, but the price is driven by that one big spender with more money than brains. The fun of finding stuff at thrifts is getting it for a steal. It doesn't make you cheap, just "thrifty."

Shining Force CD is a full graphical remake of two Shining Force games on Sega Game Gear, but it also contains a 'sequel' which was only on the Sega CD.

noname2200December 08, 2009

Kohler's appearance was a pleasant surprise: I've always enjoyed his articles. Too bad I have a final tomorrow, or I'd attend his event.

D_AverageDecember 08, 2009

Wow, much respect to Cambot!  Now that I finally have a basement, I plan on dipping my toe in a bit.  My first goal is to find a good deal on a N64 and pick up some of my old favorites.

I wonder how much a working 360 will be worth 20 years from now.....

ShyGuyDecember 09, 2009

Oh yeah, the Sears Christmas catalog was an incredible video game treasure trove! I remember wanting an Atari 7800 so bad...

The Christmas Wish Book.  They'd always mail them in late October and I'd lose my mind reading the toy section.

Killer_Man_JaroTom Malina, Associate Editor (Europe)December 09, 2009

If I were to start collecting anything, it would be to expand my N64 collection. It's the one console I feel I should have more games for. Interesting discussion


For the future of the Pokémon series, I wouldn't mind if they cut back on the total number of Pokémon from game to game. It wouldn't be the first time (Ruby & Sapphire scaled down the Pokédex from Gold & Silver) and the long-term ambition of "gotta catch 'em all" might become feasible again. Other than that, it's more tricky to narrow down what needs to be overhauled.


Cheers for another stellar episode, although I will make one request: I'll just say that, with New Business in mind, let's put the 'Nintendo' back into 'Radio Free Nintendo'. Please and thank you.

ShyGuyDecember 09, 2009

Christmas Wish Book! Yeah, it had these pictures of G.I.Joe figures all setup awesome. Kids are spoiled with the internet these days.

vuduDecember 10, 2009

The Internet needs more podcasts with Chris Kohler.  I love that man.

I hear he and Jeremy Parish have secret rings that grant them magical abilities.

WONDER TWIN POWERS ACTIVATE

ShyGuyDecember 10, 2009

The best gaming podcasts being actively produced today are as follows:
1. Radio Free Nintendo
2. Retronauts
3. The Gamespy Debriefings

I hope Garnett Lee comes back with something soon.

vuduDecember 10, 2009

YOU FORGOT RADIO TRIVIA, JERK.

ShyGuyDecember 10, 2009

Maybe if somebody played RAD Racer music then maybe I would. Maybe.

did TYP play it and I missed it?

vuduDecember 10, 2009
yoshi1001December 10, 2009

Quote from: ShyGuy

Maybe if somebody played RAD Racer music then maybe I would. Maybe.

did TYP play it and I missed it?

Earlier this year. It's so bad.

jrlibrarianJeffrey Trewin, Associate EditorDecember 10, 2009

Great show as always guys.

It was nice to hear Chris again, and the retro game collecting segment was very interesting.

Your Pokemon section propelled me towards one goal by next September (PAX Seattle). My goal is to compete in the Pokemon Tournament and actually do well. Some of my friends and my brother own copies, so I've started transferring everything to my game, and I'll rent HG/SS from Gamefly and do the same thing. Are you guys still planning to do a panel at my PAX? It would be great if your panel, this tournament, and the Jonathan Coulton concert were all on the same day.

On that day, you shall become... "srlibrarian".

adadadDecember 13, 2009

I think there's a distinction to be made between withdrawing from games entirely and withdrawing from modern gaming culture. Right now I'm in a period where aside from listening to podcasts such as RFN I have no particular interest in keeping my finger on the pulse of current game releases. Currently I devote my gaming time pretty exclusively to the N64; Mario Kart 64, Goldeneye, Mischief Makers and Rayman 2 recently. There just isn't enough time to keep up with the culture, and more importantly, to spend adequate time with the games themselves.

Despite having put in literally hundreds of hours with Goldeneye, both when I was young and now, I have never mastered the single player missions, so it's my aim to complete them all in their ball-wrenchingly hard 00 Agent form. The dedication required to accomplish this pretty much excludes any lengthy or dedicated games from my roster, but I'm greatly enjoying this approach - playing like a poor wretched child who can only afford one new game per year. It makes for a refreshing change!

I find that the rapid rate at which great games are being released makes it impossible for me to keep up.  I'm becoming less and less interested in new releases as a result.  It's a kind of paradigm shift for my gaming habits, really.

I always try to keep my new business to Nintendo stuff, but lately there hasn't been much NEW stuff I've been playing on Nintendo platforms.  Even Virtual Console has dried up, until this week.

NWR_DrewMGAndy Goergen, AlmunusDecember 16, 2009

I've been playing Majora's Mask this week like crazy.  I think I put about 7 hours into it last Saturday while my wife was studying for a final.  I'd forgotten how great that game is.

Aside, and a few DS games I'm playing for review, I'm actually kind of surprising myself with how much more my Wii has been played recently than my 360.  I did play through Arkham Asylum (more like AWESOME asylum) and I still play NCAA 10 pretty frequently, but really that's about it on my 360.  I've got a pretty thick stack of Wii games I've been playing through including but not limited to A Boy & His Blob, Deadly Creatures, Little King's Story, HotD: Overkill, Wii Sports Resort, and Punch Out!!. 

I do want to play through Assassin's Creed 2, but not until I finish the first one.

The HD game I want to play the most right now is on PS3 (Uncharted 2), and I won't be buying one of those for awhile.

The main reason I have been playing so many games, including new releases across several platforms, is that I listen to so many gaming podcasts! My "queue" of games, just like movies on Netflix, grows faster than I can churn through it.

You know, I hate 1000 Wii Points sitting there after I got NyxQuest, and last night I got Star Fox 64 after hearing Jonny recommend it on an older episode of Radio Trivia Podcast. And hell yeah, it's fun. I don't really care for the dogfight missions, though. I've always had trouble with the Fortuna Star Wolf fight.

So what did I do? I just rescue Falco on Cornett and then head to the Y Nebula.

KDR_11kDecember 19, 2009

Quote from: NWR_Lindy

I find that the rapid rate at which great games are being released makes it impossible for me to keep up.

CASUAL GAMER!

noname2200December 19, 2009

Quote from: Halbred

You know, I hate 1000 Wii Points sitting there after I got NyxQuest, and last night I got Star Fox 64 after hearing Jonny recommend it on an older episode of Radio Trivia Podcast. And hell yeah, it's fun. I don't really care for the dogfight missions, though.

I agree wholehearedly. It's a great game, but the rails portions are much tighter, and therefore more fun, than the free-roaming sections. The only time I cared for the latter was during the Independence Day level, and even that one doesn't measure up to the on-rails levels.

kraken613December 19, 2009

I sunk SO many hours into the multiplayer dogfighting in Star Fox 64.

Quote from: KDR_11k

CASUAL GAMER!

Casualcore, baby.

StratosDecember 20, 2009

Quote from: NWR_Lindy

I find that the rapid rate at which great games are being released makes it impossible for me to keep up.  I'm becoming less and less interested in new releases as a result.  It's a kind of paradigm shift for my gaming habits, really.

I understand this. I keep getting more and more games I have not even booted up once and it's gotten to the point I don't even want to buy new games because of my untouched backlog. And when I actually find an evening/morning/day/moment to play something I just can't motivate myself to do it because I'm afraid I don't have the time to sink into some of these quality games.
I tend to prefer opening up my DS to play New Super Mario Brothers or one of the GBA Fire Emblem games than boot up my Wii.

I have not even booted up RE4, Muramasa and Prime Trilogy and I've only played a number of other games just a few short times.
It may be that I'm in a different life-stage where videogames are playing more of a small roll. Perhaps I just need to stop working 6-7 days a week and enjoy life.

D_AverageDecember 20, 2009

I realized last month I've bought over 100 games in the last two years.  I thought it was around 50.  So I've tried to slow down as well.  Obviously theres a large stack I still need to finish, so I'm trying to concentrate on those for now.  Just gonna buy MX vs ATV Reflex this holiday as I'm a sucker for those games.  I'll gonna try to wait for Spring for the newer releases to really drop.

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