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Tiger Woods PGA Tour 10

by Neal Ronaghan - June 20, 2009, 5:50 pm PDT
Total comments: 26

8.5

The next generation of Wii controls is here and it is wonderful.

EA's Tiger Woods PGA Tour 10, the fourth game in the series on Wii, is one of the first games on the market to support Nintendo's new Wii MotionPlus peripheral. The addition of MotionPlus adds unprecedented style of control to golfing video games, but for the most part, Tiger Woods is still trapped in being a statistics-laden sports game and not an easily accessible Wii game.

That doesn't mean the game is bad. As a matter of fact, Tiger Woods PGA Tour 10 is probably one of the best golf games ever made. The game is a blast to play when it clicks and there is an outrageous amount of content, such as the fully-featured career mode, numerous challenges based off of actual events, lots of rule variations, numerous mini-games, and more.

The Wii MotionPlus controls work very well for a video game, but fall apart a bit when compared to actual golf, which is a bit of the game's appeal. The game draws its distance from two things: the height of the backswing and the speed of the follow-through. As a casual golfer, I have always been instructed to never try to crush the ball; this video game tells you differently. It doesn't hurt the gameplay, but it hurts the accessibility of the game to outside parties. You can't bridge the gap between the game and sport like this. There are multiple difficulty levels with swinging, three to be exact, but there's not much middle ground between them. It's easy, challenging, or very challenging. The gap between the easy All Play mode and the Normal difficulty is absurd. Basically, the All Play mode allows you to decide where you want the ball to land before you hit it; it doesn't even matter how hard you swing. The Normal difficulty removes that and lets you actually play the game and the Advanced difficulty makes the window for hitting a specific shot smaller. Regardless, the Wii MotionPlus controls are the closest to real golf a video game has ever been.

There are a few gameplay and control aspects that are great in addition to Wii MotionPlus. When you hit the ball and it is in the air, you can press a direction on the D-pad and shake the Remote to get the ball to spin that way. It's a very small part of the game, but it makes the game feel more interactive. It might not be as realistic, but it does give you something to do while you watch your shot fly through the air.

There's also the new Precision Putting mechanic. Instead of the past Tiger Woods games' standard putting where you have different length putters, you only have one in this new mechanic that has a great degree of range, like a real putter. There is also the Putt Preview, which allows you one chance per putt to see where the ball would end up if you execute the putt exactly as you set it up. This helps make up for the less palpable feel in the putting when compared to real life putting.

The regular controls that don't use Wii MotionPlus are still available, and they aren't too different from last year's iteration. While you do lose a lot of the precision, the game still controls well without MotionPlus. There doesn't appear to be much difference between the two control methods besides the fact that MotionPlus makes it more precise and allows you to more accurately add draw and fade to your shots.

The career mode is where the bulk of the game's content lies, with tons of tournaments, the championship Fed-Ex Cup, and the tournament challenges. After creating a player you hit the links, but your player is pretty pitiful. The career mode is set up like an RPG, which isn't necessarily a bad thing, but having playable characters based around stats hurts the tactile feel of using MotionPlus to perform a golf swing. What makes games like Wii Sports, or even Tiger Woods' own Disc Golf mode (which I'll get to later), so much fun that it is a level playing field; there isn't one playable character that is vastly better than any other one. The golfing part of Tiger Woods lacks that evenness, as every character has a different set of stats, which works wonderfully in a traditional golf game, but it goes against the immediately approachable feel EA is trying to create on Wii.

Once you build up your character's stats to a point where he is passably decent, the career mode becomes superb. You go around the 28 different courses and play in different tournaments with different rule variations, such as stroke play and match play. You can also improve your character by taking on the tournament challenges, some of which feature video introductions by Tiger Woods. These tournament challenges make the player replicate some of golf's greatest moments over the past few years and range from sinking a famous long putt to beating a famous golfer in 9-hole match play.

The buried treasure in the game is the Disc Golf mode, which allows up to four players to play each of the 28 courses with a disc (Frisbee for you fans of brand names) instead of golf clubs and balls. Unlike the golfing part of the game, there are no stats for each player. Everyone has the same tools at their disposal: long, mid-, and short-range discs. Wii MotionPlus helps mimic the throw of a disc brilliantly, and because of the accuracy of your actions on screen, there is a very tactile feel of throwing the disc that is not replicated in the regular golfing section of the game.

There is also online play that was introduced last year and features one wonderful improvement this year: live tournaments. This allows you to play alongside the pros in the different tournaments throughout the year and see how your virtual character stacks up against the current golfing greats. There are also tons of daily and weekly tournaments for players to compete in that are split between amateur and pro skill levels.

Warts and all, Tiger Woods PGA Tour 10 is a revolution in the way golf games control. The new Wii MotionPlus controls are very good, but not amazing yet. If you can power through the early throes of career mode so your player is halfway decent, or are a huge fan of Disc Golf, then by all means pick up this game immediately. Just don't expect it to actually improve your golf swing.

Score

Graphics Sound Control Gameplay Lastability Final
7 6 9 8.5 9 8.5
Graphics
7

It's not the prettiest game on Wii, but it runs smoothly and doesn't have any large graphical errors besides the occasional clipping during a character's celebration animation.

Sound
6

The sound effects are spot-on, but the music is lackluster and the commentary is terrible.

Control
9

Besides some small issues, the Wii MotionPlus controls are amazing. Without MotionPlus the controls still work very well and the game is seemingly a little bit easier.

Gameplay
8.5

The golf gameplay in this game is sound, as is the Disc Golf mode. It is held back by its reliance on RPG elements in the career mode.

Lastability
9

There is a whole lot to do in this game if you're into playing golf. There are 28 courses, an extremely robust career mode, a great online component, Disc Golf, and even more.

Final
8.5

Held back by its dependence on the past Tiger Woods games, the Wii MotionPlus debut of golf is still a fantastic fully-featured game. The new controls might not be ideal, but they advance the golf genre farther than any other control system has in the past and are a wonderful first-time effort in the exciting new world of MotionPlus.

Summary

Pros
  • Disc Golf is fantastic
  • Online additions are great
  • Tons of content
  • Wii MotionPlus adds great control
Cons
  • Career mode has an unforgiving start
  • Controls have a few problems
Review Page 2: Conclusion

Talkback

The whole harder = farther is a turn-off. Yes, in theory this is true in real life, but only if you're able to hit the ball cleanly on the sweet spot, and the difference in distance often isn't all that dramatic (depending on the individual golfer). A smooth swing is far more important--how does this game go about detecting that?

BlackNMild2k1June 21, 2009

it detects a smooth swing just fine, and they tell you that constantly.
But it is easy to get caught up in the swing harder to hit harder mentality, which was actually hurting my arms at first, but once you get the hang of it, you realize that while you do need to swing with some power it more important to swing smoothly, than throw your arm out.

TJ SpykeJune 21, 2009

The GameTrailers review was also very positive (even saying that the Wii version, despite not having graphics as good as the HD systems versions, is actually the best version of the game). I am not a fan of golf, real life or video games, but as a Wii owner I am very happy that Wii MotionPlus has been implemented so well.

From my time with the game so far it seems like the backswing has much more impact on the power of the swing than how fast you swing.

GoldenPhoenixJune 21, 2009

So nice to see a Wii version of game stomp the heck out of the other versions and showcasing what Wii can do.

broodwarsJune 21, 2009

Quote from: GoldenPhoenix

So nice to see a Wii version of game stomp the heck out of the other versions and showcasing what Wii can do.

Indeed.  Let's hope we start seeing more of that.  I recently spent a couple days with Tiger Next-Gen, and let's just say I wasn't impressed.

Quote from: insanolord

From my time with the game so far it seems like the backswing has much more impact on the power of the swing than how fast you swing.

I couldn't really discern which would have more impact. I would take long back swings and follow through normally and get the same percentage as when I would take a short back swing and swing extremely hard.

I enjoy the game, but its still not golf.

Blacknmild, when do they tell you this? Does a smooth swing mean you hit it 100% and straight? If so, that's much not too much feedback about hitting the sweet spot of the ball and following through correctly.

I don't wanna say it because I think Natal is stupid, but Natal Golf might remedy my problem with this. It could your golf swing accurately.

Quote from: nron10

I don't wanna say it because I think Natal is stupid, but Natal Golf might remedy my problem with this. It could your golf swing accurately.

Yeah, if Natal really is sensitiive enough to actually pick that up accurately consistently, and if you have your own set of golf clubs to scan in and a living room big enough to swing them in without breaking things.

BlackNMild2k1June 21, 2009

Quote from: insanolord

From my time with the game so far it seems like the backswing has much more impact on the power of the swing than how fast you swing.

Its actually a combination of both. If you go full back swing and then skimp out on the fore swing you're not getting full power.
But if you only half ass your back swing then full power you fore swing, then you will get much more than a half ass hit.

BlackNMild2k1June 21, 2009

Quote from: nron10

Blacknmild, when do they tell you this? Does a smooth swing mean you hit it 100% and straight? If so, that's much not too much feedback about hitting the sweet spot of the ball and following through correctly.

It says it on either one of loading screens or more likely the tip window just before you start a challenge.
I see it all the time.

GoldenPhoenixJune 21, 2009

I bought the game last night, haven't had a chance to put it in, but does it make me weird that I want to play Disc Golf more then anything? Lol

Quote from: BlackNMild2k1

Quote from: insanolord

From my time with the game so far it seems like the backswing has much more impact on the power of the swing than how fast you swing.

Its actually a combination of both. If you go full back swing and then skimp out on the fore swing you're not getting full power.
But if you only half ass your back swing then full power you fore swing, then you will get much more than a half ass hit.

I was having trouble on one of the challenges because I couldn't get any better than low 70s and I figured out it was because I wasn't going back enough and once I did I was consistently in the 90s.

Quote from: BlackNMild2k1

Quote from: nron10

Blacknmild, when do they tell you this? Does a smooth swing mean you hit it 100% and straight? If so, that's much not too much feedback about hitting the sweet spot of the ball and following through correctly.

It says it on either one of loading screens or more likely the tip window just before you start a challenge.
I see it all the time.

Oh! I know what you're talking about.
There's still that lack of a real golfing feel to me, although its the best approximation of it we've got so far.

tommyfuscoJune 21, 2009

quality review.

i am starting my career tonight after having only done 5 tiger challenges to upgrade my CAP.

I don't care. lol

Baptism by fire.

Just need a Virtua Tennis/Grand Slam wii review showdown.


By the way, i LOVE LOVE LOVE this site design.
Very simple, clean and appleish.

Its not updated as much as other nintendo sites, but i find myself keeping it in my favorites because of the fantastic writing and overall look.

Quote from: tommyfusco

quality review.

i am starting my career tonight after having only done 5 tiger challenges to upgrade my CAP.

I don't care. lol

Baptism by fire.

Just need a Virtua Tennis/Grand Slam wii review showdown.


By the way, i LOVE LOVE LOVE this site design.
Very simple, clean and appleish.

Its not updated as much as other nintendo sites, but i find myself keeping it in my favorites because of the fantastic writing and overall look.

A few things. One, the first tournament or two might suck, but after that it'll be fantastic. I was really hating this game until I got past that hump.

Two, I'm about a day or so into playing GST for review, and I'll give you a preview: I don't like it at all. I hope VT09 is better.

Three, thanks for the kinds words. I think I speak for the rest of the staff when I say that this is all worth it for when someone says something nice about our work.

NWR_pap64Pedro Hernandez, Contributing WriterJune 22, 2009

So long story short...

The game controls like a dream thanks to MotionPlus. But the overall design and concept keep it from being truly great and playing like real golf. Am I right?

tommyfuscoJune 22, 2009

Quote from: nron10

Quote from: tommyfusco

quality review.

i am starting my career tonight after having only done 5 tiger challenges to upgrade my CAP.

I don't care. lol

Baptism by fire.

Just need a Virtua Tennis/Grand Slam wii review showdown.


By the way, i LOVE LOVE LOVE this site design.
Very simple, clean and appleish.

Its not updated as much as other nintendo sites, but i find myself keeping it in my favorites because of the fantastic writing and overall look.

A few things. One, the first tournament or two might suck, but after that it'll be fantastic. I was really hating this game until I got past that hump.

Two, I'm about a day or so into playing GST for review, and I'll give you a preview: I don't like it at all. I hope VT09 is better.

Three, thanks for the kinds words. I think I speak for the rest of the staff when I say that this is all worth it for when someone says something nice about our work.

cool, I decided to kick off tiger on monday. Since it at bethpage and i have it set to weather on demand or whatever, it will probably be raining. great start.
:)

I love gst tho i didnt like it for the first week, after i got used to how to grasp the difficult controls, and it was a STEEP learning curve, i was in tennis video game bliss.
No hyperbole, the best tennis game since mario tennis 64.

do it a fair justice and play it for a week or so, checking out ea forums and the like for tips on how to get the most out of the controls.

ea did a bad job at explaining things

as far as the compliments. no problem, thats the way i see it.
I can't imagine the other readers feeling any different about the site either.

this site is just a navigation dream.
i think other sites need to understand, more isnt always better.
My sense are dulled and worn out trying to get through many of the main pages of some of those sites.
nothing like going to a gaming site, and feeling like ur at some 13 year olds myspace page.

BlackNMild2k1June 22, 2009

Quote from: tommyfusco

I love gst tho i didnt like it for the first week, after i got used to how to grasp the difficult controls, and it was a STEEP learning curve, i was in tennis video game bliss.
No hyperbole, the best tennis game since mario tennis 64.

do it a fair justice and play it for a week or so, checking out ea forums and the like for tips on how to get the most out of the controls.

ea did a bad job at explaining things

TommyFusco, can you do an explanation of the controls in the EA Grand Slam Tennis thread.

I only played it for a few hours, and I ended up taking the M+ off because it was just frustrating. The game didn't even let me know how to hold the controller until I was already fed up, and by then I didn't spend all that much more time trying to figure out the controls.

IceColdJune 22, 2009

So far I count two multiplatform games which are head and shoulders above the PS360 versions - Pro Evolution Soccer and Tiger Woods. That's exactly what we were hoping for, in addition to Wii exclusives. Can anyone else think of another game like this?

Quote from: BlackNMild2k1

Quote from: tommyfusco

I love gst tho i didnt like it for the first week, after i got used to how to grasp the difficult controls, and it was a STEEP learning curve, i was in tennis video game bliss.
No hyperbole, the best tennis game since mario tennis 64.

do it a fair justice and play it for a week or so, checking out ea forums and the like for tips on how to get the most out of the controls.

ea did a bad job at explaining things

TommyFusco, can you do an explanation of the controls in the EA Grand Slam Tennis thread.

I only played it for a few hours, and I ended up taking the M+ off because it was just frustrating. The game didn't even let me know how to hold the controller until I was already fed up, and by then I didn't spend all that much more time trying to figure out the controls.

I am noticing other things about the controls that weren't explained in game and I'm hating GST a little less, but the fact that the controls are so poorly explained and there isn't any kind of training besides the ball machine, I can't really recommend this game to anyone unless they enjoy stabbing nails into their body parts until they eventually get used to it and remove the nails in good time.

But that's enough about GST in the Tiger Woods review thread. I'll save it for the show, or in this case, the review.


And Pedro, you're right. Tiger Woods controls great, but it is still a game built for normal controls. If that makes sense.

BlackNMild2k1June 22, 2009

Quote from: IceCold

So far I count two multiplatform games which are head and shoulders above the PS360 versions - Pro Evolution Soccer and Tiger Woods. That's exactly what we were hoping for, in addition to Wii exclusives. Can anyone else think of another game like this?

I hear Overlord is best on the Wii (& the DS). Not only for frame rate, but because the pointer controls turn it into a RTS like game.

GoldenPhoenixJune 22, 2009

Quote from: BlackNMild2k1

Quote from: IceCold

So far I count two multiplatform games which are head and shoulders above the PS360 versions - Pro Evolution Soccer and Tiger Woods. That's exactly what we were hoping for, in addition to Wii exclusives. Can anyone else think of another game like this?

I hear Overlord is best on the Wii (& the DS). Not only for frame rate, but because the pointer controls turn it into a RTS like game.

I am so torn with Overlord, I think I'll get the PC version of Overlord 2 but I don't know if I should get the Wii version too since it is a prequel. I'm afraid it may too much of a good thing.

Quote from: GoldenPhoenix

Quote from: BlackNMild2k1

Quote from: IceCold

So far I count two multiplatform games which are head and shoulders above the PS360 versions - Pro Evolution Soccer and Tiger Woods. That's exactly what we were hoping for, in addition to Wii exclusives. Can anyone else think of another game like this?

I hear Overlord is best on the Wii (& the DS). Not only for frame rate, but because the pointer controls turn it into a RTS like game.

I am so torn with Overlord, I think I'll get the PC version of Overlord 2 but I don't know if I should get the Wii version too since it is a prequel. I'm afraid it may too much of a good thing.

GP, I should be getting the review copy for Dark Legend in today or tomorrow. I'll let you know how it is.

SteleJune 23, 2009

Quote from: insanolord

Quote from: nron10

I don't wanna say it because I think Natal is stupid, but Natal Golf might remedy my problem with this. It could your golf swing accurately.

Yeah, if Natal really is sensitiive enough to actually pick that up accurately consistently, and if you have your own set of golf clubs to scan in and a living room big enough to swing them in without breaking things.

We discussed something similar in the other Tiger Woods topic here.

Basically the game doesn't analyze your swing path.  Back and forward yes.  Wrist twist for hook or slice, yes.  But swinging outside-in or inside-out, not at all.  Club head impact, not at all.

Those of you who, like me, play real golf, will know what I mean.  You can swing outside in and pull a ball off to the left.  (Sometimes a slice can even correct that a little bit).  Or you hit the ball out on the toe of the club and get a really fat shot that doesn't get full distance.

The thing is with motion plus this is probably possible too.  You'd have to get to a point where maybe you throw down a ball in front of you and pretend to hit it every time, and they measure the path of your swing, the angle at impact, and some other things.  Basically from your "starting point" and how close you come back to that as you swing.

Whether TW11 will take the next step and make a really advanced swing is probably up to how much TW10 sells.

So get out there and buy it.  ;D

Because so far it's the best golf game that has ever been made.

I completely agree with what you just said.

GoldenPhoenixJune 23, 2009

Quote:

Whether TW11 will take the next step and make a really advanced swing is probably up to how much TW10 sells.

So get out there and buy it.

Tiger Woods supposedly has sold best on Wii for the last couple of games.

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Tiger Woods PGA Tour 10 Box Art

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na: Tiger Woods PGA Tour 10
Release Jun 08, 2009
PublisherElectronic Arts
RatingEveryone
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Release Jul 02, 2009
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