Author Topic: Newsarticle reveals that the DS will be powerfull (Read 9633 times)

Gamebasher · « **on:** March 13, 2004, 03:23:48 AM »

Over on Nintendoinsider, there is a newsarticle detailing some must-read information about the Nintendo DS/Nitro hardware.

Here is the link: http://nintendoinsider.com/site/EpZAEEuAAFTtxBSrBb.php
(how do you higlight a LINK to a website, so people can just click on it?)

Go and see for yourselves, I think it pretty much gives us all the reassurance we need that it will be like a portable N64!!

I want Mario 64 on it, and the REAL Ura-zelda too!!!!!!!!

Gamebasher.

Draygaia · « **Reply #1 on:** March 13, 2004, 04:14:28 AM »

Its a rumor and there is that other 5% but the other 95% is still really big. Over at IGN right now you'll find an article telling everything they know and rumors they heard. After reading it sounds like a GBA/GCN hybrid. http://gameboy.ign.com/articles/498/498550p1.html

Smadte · « **Reply #2 on:** March 13, 2004, 11:54:06 AM »

YAY, another console to port old games to!!!

God, I hope not.

kennyb27 · « **Reply #3 on:** March 13, 2004, 01:01:58 PM »

I read somewhere that Nintendo may have a SM64 demo running on the DS to show its power.

And just because it has similar power of the 64, I seriously doubt Nintendo and other developers will start an all out effort to port 64 games to it (what with licenses and publishers to worry about).

Draygaia · « **Reply #4 on:** March 13, 2004, 03:09:18 PM »

I hope that when we finally see the DS and what it can really do that it is still a damn good surprise. I still remember how out of nowhere seeing the GBA and GCN for the first time was just so damn amazing.

Termin8Anakin · « **Reply #5 on:** March 14, 2004, 02:24:47 AM »

N64 ports is not what I'm looking for.
Just cause it's 'as' powerful as an N64 doesn't mean they should port over N64 games.
It was a hard time looking at the blurry, fog-ridden levels in some games on the BIG screen, it wouldn't be hard to go blind here.
Please, just excellent, innovative games. I know that it might look the same, but at least they weren't already on the N64.

blablamax · « **Reply #6 on:** March 14, 2004, 02:33:03 AM »

It's says nothing. I believe that the DS won't be powerfull as the N64 but the GBE will be much over that. If you ask me, the demo they had run on the machine was just like Yoshi's demo when they show-off the GBA .. it doesnt look veyr good and it won't run clear cause it doesnt compatible to the machine abilities..

Why E3 is soo far away, WWWWHHHYYYY

kirby_killer_dedede · « **Reply #7 on:** March 14, 2004, 03:32:57 AM »

Over at IGN, they've got that new "Everything we know about the DS" thing. Supposedly, a Mario 64 demo HAS been developed to be shown at E3. And Gamebasher, you click the "http" button next to the "U" button.

KnowsNothing · « **Reply #8 on:** March 14, 2004, 04:04:06 PM »

Having the DS as powerful as the N64 is both good news and bad news. The good news is obvious, it's powerful. Even though they say it's not in direct competiton with the PSP or whatever, I'm sure many people will compare between the two, (at least until alot of information is revealed. If you have just the system specifications of both pieces of hardware, there will be much comparing) and having something powerful is alwasy a plus, unless it sacrifices something like battery consumption.

The bad news is more personal. If the DS is like the N64 I will feel like it IS the GBA successor and I am not ready for that. But my fears are most likely groundless. If it IS as powerful as the N64, I doubt it wil be in the same way. What I mean is, I don't think it will be something that developers can port over N64 games to. That's why it isn't a direct competitor, but a "third pillar" as they call it. The DS wil lbe somehting completely unique that will serve a purpose that none of us have already guessed.

Or not. Dunno.

Bill Aurion · « **Reply #9 on:** March 14, 2004, 06:23:58 PM »

I actually heard that the DS' hardware will make it near-impossible to port current games to it...Making sure only titles made from scratch will make the cut...Here's to hoping that's true...

mouse_clicker · « **Reply #10 on:** March 14, 2004, 06:28:41 PM »

I don't mind aged ports on the GBA because even bad graphics in a sprite based game still look clean. A bad looking polygonal game looks really bad. It's interesting to hear the DS is powerful enough TO have N64 games to port to it, though, if this is indeed true.

KDR_11k · « **Reply #11 on:** March 14, 2004, 07:08:02 PM »

There was a 2d performance listed as well, so I bet we'll be seeing quite some 2d games for the device. Combining sprites and polygons might give some really good results...

Gamebasher · « **Reply #12 on:** March 15, 2004, 02:49:06 AM »

Kirby killer, if I click the http-button it doesn´t paste a usable link to any website! Instead it asks if it should be "text" and I get no other options so I must click OK. The result is a mish mash of code and text!!??? So what do you mean?

DrZoidberg · « **Reply #13 on:** March 15, 2004, 03:26:21 AM »

how many n64 games had duel screen support?

KDR_11k · « **Reply #14 on:** March 15, 2004, 05:13:18 AM »

Gamebasher: Name means the name of the link displayed, you're asked for a URL afterwards. Or just type <name goes here>. Quote this post to see the code.

(EDIT: F###ing preview told me it will not make this a link...)

Bill Aurion · « **Reply #15 on:** March 15, 2004, 06:30:21 AM »

<L=Link name>http://www.thisishowyoulink.com</L>

Replace the greater than/less than symbols --> < > with brackets --> [ ]

So you get something like this OMG the link leads to this very page!

Ian Sane · « **Reply #16 on:** March 15, 2004, 06:52:49 AM »

"I don't mind aged ports on the GBA because even bad graphics in a sprite based game still look clean. A bad looking polygonal game looks really bad."

Agreed. There aren't really any 16-bit 2D games that look bad. With a little visual cleanup virtually any Genesis/SNES game could have been released now as an original GBA title and few would find it out of place. N64 games are the 3D equivalent of NES games in that their visuals haven't held up at all. There's a reason that there aren't very many NES ports on the GBA.

Plus what's the point of making a nifty dual screen system if it's just going to be used for N64 ports? One thing I think we can be sure of is that even if third parties get port happy Nintendo probably won't and will make new content to promote the dual screen design.

Infernal Monkey · « **Reply #17 on:** March 15, 2004, 10:20:36 AM »

So we can expect crappy first generation looking N64 games on it? Brilliant.
"Hey guys we're launching Super Mario 64 DX with the classic Mario Bros. stuck in, and one new sound effect!" =/

I'd much rather a dedicated 2D machine.

Darc Requiem · « **Reply #18 on:** March 15, 2004, 03:51:03 PM »

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Originally posted by: Ian Sane
"I don't mind aged ports on the GBA because even bad graphics in a sprite based game still look clean. A bad looking polygonal game looks really bad."

Agreed. There aren't really any 16-bit 2D games that look bad. With a little visual cleanup virtually any Genesis/SNES game could have been released now as an original GBA title and few would find it out of place. N64 games are the 3D equivalent of NES games in that their visuals haven't held up at all. There's a reason that there aren't very many NES ports on the GBA.

Plus what's the point of making a nifty dual screen system if it's just going to be used for N64 ports? One thing I think we can be sure of is that even if third parties get port happy Nintendo probably won't and will make new content to promote the dual screen design.

Once again, Ian hits the nail on the head. I'm suprised that a gaming mag hasn't gotten wise to your insights. Although I'm sure the DS will have its trashy ports with "tacked on" dual screen features. I'm also sure, like the GBA that the DS will have stellar games that are both innovative and push the hardware beyond its limits. I'm sure the DS's 3D games will look quite better than the games of N64. The DS has more storage space, so textures shouldn't have that blur....and after seeing games like Need For Speed Undergound for GBA. I'm sure that the DS will be able to impress.

Darc Requiem

Uglydot · « **Reply #19 on:** March 16, 2004, 12:12:05 AM »

I don't think they are getting that n64 pad onto a GBA sized machine, so most n64 games aren't much of a worry. Sure, they could condense, but the DS will probably only have like 4 or 6 buttons w/o the d-pad.

blablamax · « **Reply #20 on:** March 16, 2004, 04:52:49 AM »

It is far more simple to create an all new game which base on the two screen function, than to port an olg game and to make it with the same gameplay design on the DS. This is the reason,I believe, why developers will stay far from proting game. They may remake some,yes .. but it will be with a total new gameplay experience cauze of the two screens.

Fluke Worm · « **Reply #21 on:** March 16, 2004, 06:52:16 PM »

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I'm sure the DS will have its trashy ports with "tacked on" dual screen features

UOOOO, picture it, a ROB collectors game card, on one screen you have the game screen the other has a simulated ROB on it. Best idea ever

. Truth be told I'd probably buy it though

.

BTW is this ("game card") what we will be calling the medium that the games are on? It's not a disk, it's not a cartridge, it's kinda like a memory card so it's a game card........right???

odifiend · « **Reply #22 on:** March 16, 2004, 07:07:40 PM »

i'm good with game card.
I've read a couple of articles on the DS as I'm sure everyone has, and it sounds to me like there won't be that many buttons on it (i keep hearing a,b and stylus, and i'm desperately looking for a hint of x and y) which would limit N64 ports. There were 9 buttons on the 64 controller so even if we get x and y, that's 6 buttons and a stylus. GCN gets screwed in ports for having 1 less button, so ported 64 games to DS would be clumsy and lacking. Therefore straight ports are not worth it. Don't try to whichever developers are reading.
Enhanced ports are different stories. I am dreaming of a 8 person, wireless smash bros.

KDR_11k · « **Reply #23 on:** March 17, 2004, 03:49:33 AM »

They said they're considering X and Y buttons, I hope we'll get them (and camera control, the most annoying omission in OOT)

Fluke Worm · « **Reply #24 on:** March 17, 2004, 12:40:38 PM »

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They said they're considering X and Y buttons

Why does it have to be A&B or A;B;X&Y, is there some reason they can't do say A;B&X. I say quit considering four buttons and just put three on it, that way everyone's happy, the DS would have more buttons than the GB and less than the GC. Of course "everyone" wouldn't include persons who wanted 4buttons but too bad

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