Author Topic: Conflicting sales numbers? (Read 7890 times)

FOX McLOUD · « **on:** March 02, 2004, 05:50:17 AM »

Skies of Arcadia is my favorite Gamecube game. I'm a Nintendo fanboy, and therefore it is my only home console, "screw Microsoft and Sony", but I had high hopes of an Arcadia 2 on Gamecube, but I heard that in it's first month out, it bombed selling only 20,000 units, but on another site, I heard that it sold 75,000 in it's first year out. 75,000 is a preaty good number, so did Sega consider it a flop, or will they change their minds due to the yearly numbers, and make a sequel?

Bill Aurion · « **Reply #1 on:** March 02, 2004, 06:01:43 AM »

The 75,000 may have been it's Dreamcast numbers, because I'm fairly certain the first numbers are correct... :\

DrZoidberg · « **Reply #2 on:** March 02, 2004, 06:02:38 AM »

errr, the only info on Skies of Arcadia 2 is that it's been announced, i'm pretty sure no console has been confirmed yet, and more than likely it will apear on Gamecube, wouldn't make alot of sence to put a sequel of something story heavy on a different console to the one the original is on, and dreamcast doesn't count because it's nolonger supported.

Mario should be able to provide relativly acurate sales data, but more than likely it bombed.

KDR_11k · « **Reply #3 on:** March 02, 2004, 07:27:22 AM »

Well, I'd doubt the sequel will come out on PS2, they'd have released the first one on that if they wanted it on the platform.

Ian Sane · « **Reply #4 on:** March 02, 2004, 07:51:41 AM »

"i'm pretty sure no console has been confirmed yet, and more than likely it will apear on Gamecube, wouldn't make alot of sence to put a sequel of something story heavy on a different console to the one the original is on"

You guys forget this is Sega AKA the dumbest videogame company on Earth. These guys released Shenmue II as an Xbox exclusive in North America where it totally bombed instead of on the Dreamcast which the fanbase already owned. Releasing Skies 2 on the PS2 (or the N-Gage) seems logical to them. Afterall they quietly released Skies for the Cube with ZERO advertising and were surprised that it sold poorly.

StrikerObi · « **Reply #5 on:** March 02, 2004, 08:06:07 AM »

Skies of Arcadia 2 was never announced. Sega only said they were considering it. There is a big difference between the two. Sadly, I don't think we'll ever see Skies of Arcadia 2

Mario · « **Reply #6 on:** March 02, 2004, 11:40:59 AM »

I believe it sold 19,000 in it's first month, and its total so far is something like 78,000. I'd consider that pretty good.

AMac2002 · « **Reply #7 on:** March 02, 2004, 02:55:07 PM »

"Well, I'd doubt the sequel will come out on PS2, they'd have released the first one on that if they wanted it on the platform."

They might release them both in one game, Sega's done that before so i wouldn't put it past them.

And I'm pretty sure 78,000 is pretty bad actually. Although Skies of Arcadia is an old port, so I guess that comes into play, but definetly 78,000 is not that good of a number for most games.

Mario · « **Reply #8 on:** March 02, 2004, 03:06:53 PM »

Well it's pretty good considering the amount of money it would have cost to just "port" it, and the small amount of money used to advertise it (if any). I'm sure they made a decent profit.

Uglydot · « **Reply #9 on:** March 03, 2004, 12:34:13 AM »

I do so love Sega's games, but I do wonder sometimes about what they do with them. It's anyone's guess with Skies 2

vudu · « **Reply #10 on:** March 03, 2004, 04:49:25 AM »

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Well it's pretty good considering the amount of money it would have cost to just "port" it, and the small amount of money used to advertise it (if any). I'm sure they made a decent profit.

sega might have made a profit on the port, but how much money did they lose when the game was first released on dreamcast? you have to take the entire lifespan of the game into account.

FOX McLOUD · « **Reply #11 on:** March 03, 2004, 05:53:39 AM »

The truth is that when it first came out on the Dreamcast it sold a good 100,000 copies. On the Gamecube it sold 20,000 in it's fist month, and 75,000+ by now since it's release. It could not cost much to port, so therefore they would have made themselves a healthy profit. It launched with actually a good deal of magazine advertisemnent support, but they showed nothing, not even any ten second commercials for the TV. It might make some sense to put it out for the PS2, but Sega actually has the greatest amount of old school Sega fanboys on the Gamecube. The Xbox has way less of an RPG market than the Cube ever did, or ever will, and as for the 60 or so people in America that actually bought an Ngage, well, don't get your hopes up.

DrZoidberg · « **Reply #12 on:** March 03, 2004, 11:13:11 AM »

putting it on the cube ment running it virtually unapposed in the RPG market for the cube, want a cube rpg? get skies and ...., so yeah made alot of sence to go on the cube, especially with Sonic DX and Adventure Battle 2 etc selling well. also we won't go into how it sold in Australia.

Uncle Rich AiAi · « **Reply #13 on:** March 03, 2004, 02:02:40 PM »

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also we won't go into how it sold in Australia.

Yeah.

I was one of the, say, 7 people who were lucky to get Skies in Oz.

I love this game so much, I hope Sega will develop a sequel. Although I think it will be unlikely do to its sales. I need more Aika love!

The Omen · « **Reply #14 on:** March 03, 2004, 02:40:37 PM »

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It might make some sense to put it out for the PS2, but Sega actually has the greatest amount of old school Sega fanboys on the Gamecube.

I disagree with that. I think the majority are split between the Xbox and PS2. You have to remember a lot of the oldschool Sega fans are anti-Nintendo. Those who owned the Dreamcast seemed to go Xbox, and those who left Sega after the Saturn seemed to go PS2, in my experience at least.

But anyway, SOA sold pretty well if it is in fact 75,000. I think a sequal would sell double that number. Is that good enough? I think it is. But Sega make some wacked out decisions. Always have, so you never can tell.

mouse_clicker · « **Reply #15 on:** March 03, 2004, 05:52:25 PM »

I think Sega fans were split among all 3 systems to some extent, Omen, but to say the majority of Dreamcast owners bought an XBox is just ludicrous. I remember Bill telling me once that Sonic Adventure 2: Battle, a 2 or so yeard old Dreamcast port, sold better than all of Sega's XBox exclusives combined.

Uncle Rich AiAi · « **Reply #16 on:** March 03, 2004, 08:46:32 PM »

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I remember Bill telling me once that Sonic Adventure 2: Battle, a 2 or so yeard old Dreamcast port, sold better than all of Sega's XBox exclusives combined.

And AV have a 3 Xbox games in development (I think). When will Sega learn?

The Omen · « **Reply #17 on:** March 04, 2004, 01:47:48 AM »

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remember Bill telling me once that Sonic Adventure 2: Battle, a 2 or so yeard old Dreamcast port, sold better than all of Sega's XBox exclusives combined.

I think GC owners are smart, thats all.

Plus, for some, Sonic is new to them, especially if they've only owned Nintendo systems, like me. I'm not saying theres 85% Sega fans with the other 2 systems. But i'd say the Sega Fanboys went to those 2.

FOX McLOUD · « **Reply #18 on:** March 04, 2004, 05:42:19 AM »

What was the deal with Skies of Arcadia, in Australia?

DrZoidberg · « **Reply #19 on:** March 04, 2004, 11:43:16 AM »

OH NOW YOU'VE DONE IT >=o

Atari Australia, formerly Game Nation, is the publisher of Sega, Konami and other games here in Australia, they have very bizzar distribution practices, it was rumoured Skies had a release of around 300 copies, 300. Same deal with Phantasy Star Online, they hardly released any on the Gamecube, but then even more bizzar, they didn't release it at all on Xbox, a console with online play as it's major focus. Basically the only way to get a copy of an Atari published game out here is to pre-order it, unless it's a patheticly bad game, then copies seem to be in abundance.

my fellow aussies understand.

Uncle Rich AiAi · « **Reply #20 on:** March 04, 2004, 02:46:33 PM »

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Same deal with Phantasy Star Online, they hardly released any on the Gamecube, but then even more bizzar, they didn't release it at all on Xbox, a console with online play as it's major focus.

I've said this before. I've saw a ccopy of PSO for Xbox. I think it was EB.

FOX McLOUD · « **Reply #21 on:** March 05, 2004, 10:16:37 AM »

Man, the Aussy market must really suck. Hey, why don't yall hop a plane and come to America. I am sure that Bloodsworth has a few spare rooms.

**laughes till he cries**

Just kidding, we all love ya man.

ib2kool4u912 · « **Reply #22 on:** March 05, 2004, 11:29:18 AM »

Aiai or any other Aussie, I was gonna ask this in the Aussie thread a while ago but then that kind of left us. Does Sony's and Mcrosoft's support suck as much as Nintendo in Australia? Because i keep hearing how Nintendo of Ausrtalia is horrible i was just wondering about other consoles.

Mario · « **Reply #23 on:** March 05, 2004, 11:45:29 AM »

Definately not. Microsoft and Sony bring games here twice as fast as Nintendo, and they advertise them. Stores actually stock Xbox and PS2 games too, the only place that actually has a decent selection of GCN games is EB. PSX outsells GCN and GBA combined here, on a monthly basis. Nuff said.

DrZoidberg · « **Reply #24 on:** March 05, 2004, 03:02:02 PM »

but on the other hand alot of PS2 games don't make it here either, or are also impossible to find, Bemani games outside Dance Stage Euromix (i guess we are apart of europe now -___-) and one edition of Beatmania for PSX arn't released here, Disgea Hour of Darkness, Guilty Gear X2 wasn't released here (it was released in europe in a tiny shipment then discontinued, Infernal has a copy MIRACLE!) and many other games.
I'm not sure about Xbox in the games department though, but both PS2 and Xbox get excelent support here :\

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Author Topic: Conflicting sales numbers? (Read 7890 times)