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Latest Nintendo Performance Numbers
« on: January 27, 2004, 07:51:44 AM »
Nintendo sure likes to tell everyone how great they are.

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As the NPD Group released its 2003 industry figures, Nintendo decided to tell the world the rest of the story, namely, how well Nintendo has been doing in relation to the competition.  Here's the official word from the company:

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NPD Data Reveals Nintendo #1 in Several Categories

January 22, 2004 -- If awards were handed out today for the stars of the video game industry in 2003, Nintendo would walk home with an armful more than any other company. According to independent retail sales data just released by NPD Funworld, Nintendo was named No. 1 in the following categories by the nation's game players:

- No. 1 Selling System: Game Boy® Advance, with 8.1 million sold in 2003

- No. 1 Fastest-Growing System: Nintendo GameCube™, with a 40 percent unit sales increase over 2002 (compared to a 25 percent decline for Sony's PlayStation 2, and flat sales for Microsoft's Xbox)

- No. 1 Fastest-Growing Game Seller: Nintendo GameCube, with a 77 percent unit sales increase over 2002

- No. 1 Hit Maker: Four of the year's top seven sellers played only on Nintendo (Pokémon® Ruby and Pokémon® Sapphire for Game Boy Advance; The Legend of Zelda®: The Wind Waker™ and Mario Kart®: Double Dash!!™ for Nintendo GameCube)

- No. 1 Sales Growth: Corporate retail revenues increased 16 percent over 2002

- No. 1 Landmark: Game Boy Advance just sold its 20 millionth system in America!
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« Reply #1 on: January 27, 2004, 10:02:02 AM »
Do they put this stuff out for the gamers or the investers?  I can't make up my mind if I think, great that should entice them to make some more really great games, or great I should buy some stock.

Does anyone out there invest in the big N?
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« Reply #2 on: January 27, 2004, 10:03:17 AM »
wow. Nintendo has really been pushing out these press releases exclaiming their greatness..and i guess, why shouldn't they.  They do have some impressive numbers to show that the competition cant claim.  Plus, with the announcement of the DS, critics that once downed Nintendo are now saying how the big N might be on the road to redemption...we will soon see.

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« Reply #3 on: January 27, 2004, 11:02:04 AM »
I once looked into investing in Nintendo, but I couldn't find them on any of the North American exchanges.  Maybe I didn't look hard enough, though.
Anyway...this is all good and well, but I think Nintendo should shut up until it has some NEW landmarks to tell us about.   They've already said the exact same thing ten different ways.  Nintendo: come back when GameCube surpasses Xbox for total sales since 2001.
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« Reply #4 on: January 27, 2004, 11:47:38 AM »
In the US or worldwide, because worldwide the Gamecube is several million units ahead of the XBox.

Anyway, even if Nintendo's just repeating the same thing over and over again, and using percentages instead of actual news, they have to do something to combat all the negative publicity they've been getting. :/
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« Reply #5 on: January 27, 2004, 12:10:37 PM »
Sometimes you just have to remind people how good you are.  Nintendo is finally getting the rewards for all their hard work.
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« Reply #6 on: January 27, 2004, 01:38:46 PM »
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I once looked into investing in Nintendo, but I couldn't find them on any of the North American exchanges.


I actually have owned some Nintendo stock since sixth grade -- I got it as part of a class project at the time. It started at $8.00 per share and then hit a peak at $23 a couple of years ago. Today Nintendo (NTDOY) closed at $13.35. It trades on the Tokyo stock exchange but can be purchased through US brokers.

I think that this string of positive press releases should continue to push Nintendo's value upward. Especially if the new DS takes off later this year.  

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« Reply #7 on: January 27, 2004, 01:50:41 PM »
Actually i believe nintendo does not participate in any North American Stock exchanges.  they only have stocks in Japan.  Anyway I wonder how confident sony is about the PSP now that nintendo has reached 20 million GBA's in America only and now nintendo has a new system to compete against the PSP even though nintendo says it wasnt made to compete with the PSP.  I bet sony has been wetting their pants since the december.

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« Reply #8 on: January 27, 2004, 02:36:53 PM »
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« Reply #9 on: January 27, 2004, 04:23:27 PM »
Im so glad to hear that Gamecube now is making a comeback. Its always been cool that the GBA has done so well, but i think we've all been lying to ourselves that it was enough... The Home Console is really the heart and soul of the videogame industry, so if the gamecube isnt selling well and the GBA is, its really only bitter sweet.. The jump in sales from 2002 really is incredible. Ive heard of sales spikes but the sheer manitude of the leap in sales the gamecube has experienced truely is unbelievable... And now that the gamecube exists without shame in the console biz, we can SURLY expect more top notch titles from some top notch developers. And to have Metal Gear comming up soon, its sure to only increase the sales even more... It became appearant to me that the Gamecube was now officialy a mainstream and owned console by the general gaming public and not just the hardcore when a discussion about mario kart DD sprung up amongst the guys at work... bear in mind that the normal gaming discussions normally consist of little more than Madden 2004 on Ps2.... That says alot about how Nintendo is starting to get back into the "scene" if you will...

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« Reply #10 on: January 27, 2004, 05:20:27 PM »
Yeah, this is definitely good to see.  It's great that more Gamecubes are out there, even if Nintendo had to drop their price drastically to move units.  Nintendo's PR machine is just doing its job in this case.  The GameBoy and Gamecube actually became an effective one-two punch for Nintendo in 2003...who woulda thunk it?

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« Reply #11 on: January 27, 2004, 10:29:04 PM »
This wasn't really made for the investors, though it does help. This is more for Nintendo's critics in the US. They are just saying we are still #1 in some of the more important areas in business and that they are going to be exiting soon.
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« Reply #12 on: January 27, 2004, 11:28:23 PM »
well, as you can see, Nintendo put a spin on almost all of their claims.  Nonetheless, it is still an improvement over the previous year which doesn't say too much.  I really hope DS doesn't give the same feeling when they first showed Virtual Boy on display.

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« Reply #13 on: January 28, 2004, 04:08:41 AM »
the only region the cube leads the xbox in is japan. the xbox leads in europe 3.7 to about 3 million. the cube is closing the gap between it and xbox in north america, but it still has a ways to go.  
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« Reply #14 on: January 28, 2004, 04:23:53 AM »
The bottom line is... worldwide, Gamecube is in second place. Not sure how accurate your figures are. It was even acknowledged by nintendo in some sort of press conference held about a week ago... Gamecube's recent spurt in sales pushed the installed user base just past that of xbox wordwide... There was a whole big feature story about it on IGN, with a picture of mario holding up 2 fingers... I can dig it up if you like..  

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« Reply #15 on: January 28, 2004, 05:28:34 AM »
Though I'm not a huge fan of the series (i have a life) but I think the Final Fantasy games coming back to Nintendo really gave the industry as a whole a new outlook at how healthy Nintendo really is. Then again, what do I know. I'm the one downloading Bumfights as we speak. ah well.

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« Reply #16 on: January 28, 2004, 06:24:18 AM »
This interveiw might be what RyanGassxx was talking about: http://cube.ign.com/articles/463/463155p1.html  It says that the Cube is beating the Xbox in the US.

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« Reply #17 on: January 28, 2004, 06:36:30 AM »
there is no doubt nintendo is 2nd world wide. nintendo is down .7 mill in euro, .9 in na, and its up by more than 1.6 mill in japan. its close either way.

xbox, gc, and ps2 na number
http://www.the-magicbox.com/topten3.htm

euro cube numbers
http://www.cube-europe.com/news.php?nid=6013

euro xbox numbers
http://www.gamespot.com/xbox/news/news_6087060.html
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« Reply #18 on: January 28, 2004, 06:54:37 AM »
"Anyway I wonder how confident sony is about the PSP now that nintendo has reached 20 million GBA's in America only and now nintendo has a new system to compete against the PSP even though nintendo says it wasnt made to compete with the PSP. I bet sony has been wetting their pants since the december."

I doubt it.  Sony isn't stupid.  They know competing with the GBA is going to be hard but they're probably banking on the popularity of the Playstation name and the superior specs of the PSP to give them an edge.  If the specs are accurate a game designed to use the full hardware of the PSP could never be made for the GBA and that's an advantage for sure.  The DS also changes things a lot.  If Nintendo focuses too much of their efforts on this new portable it could hurt the GBA.  If anything since the DS was announced Sony has become more confident.  By introducing an experimental piece of hardware Nintendo is risking weakening their stranglehold on the portable market just as Sony enters.  Sony may be betting on Nintendo screwing themselves over just like they did the last time Sony took the market out from under them.

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« Reply #19 on: January 28, 2004, 09:56:44 AM »
that is exactly why i do not like this move by nintendo. who would care if all they had to compete with was the n-gage...but the psp is going to go to have a easier time when nintendo has to spread its resources over 2 handhelds. by the time the psp comes out, the gba will be outdated, and the ds will be some new ewird thing that will never catch on. unless the ds has the full backing from nintendo, it will not succeed.
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« Reply #20 on: January 28, 2004, 10:10:05 AM »
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« Reply #21 on: January 28, 2004, 10:22:04 AM »
I think the PSP is somewhat experimental too.
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« Reply #22 on: January 28, 2004, 11:17:10 AM »
It's good to see we have prophets like nolimit to forsee the future! HE should have the title Muad'dib, not I! If only we could make such baseless predictions as nolimit!  
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« Reply #23 on: January 28, 2004, 01:35:13 PM »
well as usual, what i post is just my opinion, but i dont believe nintendo can fully support both. i hope they can, but i dont think they will be able to support both enough to make them both extremely popular. just think if nintendo put its full support into the gamecube...it would be way more popular wouldnt it??? i thikn it would be. game support means a lot, but now the game support will be split between these two handhelds.
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« Reply #24 on: January 28, 2004, 01:40:09 PM »
MY opinion is jack squat, because there's no way I, or anyone else, can make a prediction on the popularity of the DS simply from the fact that it has 2 screens. I'd wait until we know what Nintendo's actually going to do with the product before we start fortelling its doom (or success, for that matter).  
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