Author Topic: New Unity Screenshots Revealed (Read 6081 times)

Procession · « **on:** January 16, 2004, 04:16:56 PM »

Damn this game is shaping up to be seriously cool, I mean, you get to control a phoenix! I just hope Cube owners will buy it and prove the Gamecube is great for mature/arthouse developers to work on, it's a shame we haven't got any really neat music games. It's nice to see the developer, Jeff Minter call the Cube one of the better platforms he has worked on.

Expect it late '04/ early '05, apparently.

Screens here: http://www.yakyak.org/viewtopic.php?t=13754

kusanagi · « **Reply #1 on:** January 16, 2004, 04:54:56 PM »

Looks like the Tunnel plugin I had for winamp a while back

KDR_11k · « **Reply #2 on:** January 17, 2004, 03:40:49 AM »

Forget it. Abstract or innovative games don't sell.

Actraiser · « **Reply #3 on:** January 17, 2004, 08:12:28 AM »

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Originally posted by: KDR_11k
Forget it. Abstract or innovative games don't sell.

that's because theyre usually not very fun. this looks like a weird Tempest

Bill Aurion · « **Reply #4 on:** January 17, 2004, 09:41:08 AM »

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Originally posted by: KDR_11k
Forget it. Abstract or innovative games don't sell.

Really...The only one in recent memory is Viewtiful Joe...Too much emphasis on violence and sex these days...

mouse_clicker · « **Reply #5 on:** January 17, 2004, 09:58:39 AM »

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that's because theyre usually not very fun. this looks like a weird Tempest

No surprise there, since Tempest's creator, Jeff Minter, is the one making Unity.

Actraiser · « **Reply #6 on:** January 17, 2004, 11:31:20 AM »

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Originally posted by: Bill
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Originally posted by: KDR_11k
Forget it. Abstract or innovative games don't sell.

Really...The only one in recent memory is Viewtiful Joe...Too much emphasis on violence and sex these days...

sex and violence, not withstanding, the GTA games are the most innovative things since games went to 3D. what good is innovation if it doesnt deliver a fun gaming experience?

rpglover · « **Reply #7 on:** January 17, 2004, 11:42:56 AM »

"the GTA games are the most innovative things since games went to 3D"

i just dont agree with that statement at all

Caliban · « **Reply #8 on:** January 17, 2004, 11:59:03 AM »

Actraiser> LOL, GTA innovative? The character can't even swim! And you must be talking about only GTA 3, and Vice City, because GTA 1 and 2 have nothing of 3D.

BTW, this game Unity also did look like one of the music visualizations that I had on winamp! Can't wait for it. I like strange games, that's why I got Pikmin and Cubivore.

nolimit19 · « **Reply #9 on:** January 17, 2004, 12:08:42 PM »

yea i also dont agree that gta is the MOST inovative game since games went 3d.....i do think they are innovative though...and this game does look weird...i dont get it.

Hostile Creation · « **Reply #10 on:** January 17, 2004, 12:18:11 PM »

Why even bother releasing screenshots for a game like this?

Hey, Caliban, did you make that avatar in Flash?

GTA = lots of fun for about an hour and not innovative.

mouse_clicker · « **Reply #11 on:** January 17, 2004, 12:24:56 PM »

GTA3 is very innovative, actually- certainly not on the level of SM64 or OoT, but it revolutionized the level of freedom you have in a game. It doesn't matter if none of you liked it, you can't deny that Grand Theft Auto and Rockstar DID innovate, and a lot of other companies are incorporating the ideas in the game. You really have to look past the Nintendo loyalty that's blinding a lot of you.

Bill Aurion · « **Reply #12 on:** January 17, 2004, 02:12:59 PM »

The funny part is, however, is that the ideas from the games are just re-hashed from the original "over-head" games...The freedom in the game was innovative(even Miyamoto praised the amount of freedom the game brought), yes, but the good majority of the gameplay additions were not...

Caliban · « **Reply #13 on:** January 17, 2004, 02:21:37 PM »

Hostile Creation> Nope, I used Adobe Photoshop 7.0.

You guys are right GTA is innovative in some areas, but none-the-less it has its flaws, being one flaw that it gets too repetitive(at least for me)!

Mario · « **Reply #14 on:** January 17, 2004, 04:28:45 PM »

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Forget it. Abstract or innovative games don't sell.

Not entirely true.

Unity looks amazing from those screenshots, i am very interested in how this game will turn out. I need a game like this for my GCN. Amazing how it's being developed by just one man, games with very small teams can turn out really good, nobody to argue with, you do what YOU want to the game etc.

KDR_11k · « **Reply #15 on:** January 17, 2004, 08:30:10 PM »

GTA is innovative, but only to a certain degree. That's why it's so popular, very few innovation, mostly known material. If you stray too much from established concepts, you won't sell anything.

The problem with Tempest is the gameplay. It's basically a shoot'em'up (it was a 3d Space Invaders at first...) with some seriously unfair mechanics.
If anyone in here needs to refresh their memory on Tempest, here is a pretty good clone with a few added features (just don't collect powerups if you want to play it like Tempest 1). Tempest is so awful, I bought it for DM5 and gave it away shortly thereafter. I hope Unity is better.

Mario: If so, can you name a few well selling abstract or heavily innovative games?

mouse_clicker · « **Reply #16 on:** January 17, 2004, 08:47:43 PM »

Dance Dance Revolution is very popular, as is Super Monkey Ball, to a degree. Largely, though, the public wants what they know and are very unopen to new ideas. Hence changes have to be forced.

Mario · « **Reply #17 on:** January 17, 2004, 10:13:44 PM »

Yeah, those plus Wario Ware (massive hit in Japan), Pikmin (million seller), that Namco drum game for PS2, just to mention a few. Being abstract or heavily innovative doesn't exactly mean casual people wont buy it, it just depends on the game, and whether or not it attracts people's attention. (and also how the game is advertised olol)

thecubedcanuck · « **Reply #18 on:** January 18, 2004, 11:04:43 AM »

"You really have to look past the Nintendo loyalty that's blinding a lot of you."

truer words were never spoken

WesDawg · « **Reply #19 on:** January 18, 2004, 11:18:54 AM »

I've never played GTA3. I probably never will. What's innovative about it? It seems like games have been pretty open for awhile now. At least Mario64, OOT or even the little bit of Driver 2 that I played seemed that way. They had a storyline, but you didn't have to follow it if you just wanted to run around and jump on stuff and smash pots. That seems to be what people love about GTA from what I hear. You can play the game, or you can just drive around town. I figure I'm missing something.

thecubedcanuck · « **Reply #20 on:** January 18, 2004, 12:08:13 PM »

wes dawg

play the darn game and then talk about it. I honestly hate it when people talk about a game they have never played in a negative way.

Bill Aurion · « **Reply #21 on:** January 18, 2004, 12:19:43 PM »

How about when people talk about a game that they own in a negative way?

Nintendo Gamecube · « **Reply #22 on:** January 18, 2004, 01:13:11 PM »

GTA 3 was fun, specially going to my friends house and doing some of the missions. Then I bought it for PC and beat it all the way through and stopped playing it...there wasn't much left, unless you want to spend the rest of the time looking for hidden packages, which I hate doing in games. So I was left with no replay value, although the time I spent was enjoyable.

Then I got Vice City, and to tell you the truth, there was nothing innovative in that at all. The whole "chainsaw" or "walking into buildings" or "motorcycles" was just a pathetic gimmick to sell games. Unfortunately, Americans are pretty "stupid" when it comes to how innovative a game is, and they swallowed up Vice City whole. I took a poll of my friends of how quick they stopped playing, and it was right after they completed the missions. It wasn't like GTA III, where they played for an additional few months just enjoying the "free-ness" in the game.

So in conclusion, GTA III was very innovative. Vice City, just a rehash, as some people like to call it.

Guitar Smasher · « **Reply #23 on:** January 18, 2004, 01:19:11 PM »

Yeah, I mean you could drive around endlessly in DKR, so in reality, GTA is not very innovative at all. And about innovative games: I believe that they do sell pretty well in Japan, but don't outside of Japan. I guess it's just cultural differences...

KDR_11k · « **Reply #24 on:** January 18, 2004, 07:44:11 PM »

I have a friend who's playing GTAVC and Freelancer like mad. He's modding the hell out of both games (even in Freelancer online!). After a few months he even felt obliged to buy GTAVC.

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Author Topic: New Unity Screenshots Revealed (Read 6081 times)