Topic: GameCube Outselling PS2 and Xbox in America

[Jonnyboy117]

Black Friday was very, very good to Nintendo.

NINTENDO GAMECUBE HITS NO. 1

Combines with Game Boy Advance to Sell More Than 1 Million Systems During Thanksgiving Week

REDMOND, Wash., Dec. 2, 2003 – After rocketing up the charts the past several weeks, the Nintendo GameCube™ has now reached No. 1 – it's America's top-selling home video game console, according to direct sales data from the nation's leading retailers. Nintendo GameCube sold more than half a million systems to consumers during Thanksgiving week, easily surpassing its console competitors. Among all game devices, it trailed only Nintendo's portable Game Boy® Advance, which sold almost 600,000 units to U.S. buyers during the week.  

"All along, our business plan for this year was to maximize consumer interest and sales during the fourth quarter," says George Harrison, Nintendo of America's senior vice president of marketing and corporate communications. "But frankly, we're overwhelmed by how successful we've been. Our price cut of Nintendo GameCube has ignited sales to the degree that it may turn out to be the best-selling console for the entire month of November. We're tracking to sell more systems in the last eight weeks of the year than we did in the previous 10 months combined."

Nintendo GameCube went from No. 3 to No. 1 in just two months, evidence that the Sept. 25 price drop to an MSRP of $99.99 and the hot new games were just what the public wanted. The library of games available for Nintendo GameCube now stands at more than 320, including America's current hottest game, Mario Kart®: Double Dash™ exclusively for Nintendo GameCube, role-playing and sports games, Pokémon titles for younger players and action and racing games for adults.

Numerous new and upcoming releases that will keep the momentum going include 1080°®: Avalanche, a shred-'em-up snowboarding game; Mario Party® 5, the ultimate party game; F-Zero® GX, the fastest racing game on the market; Mario Golf™: Toadstool Tour, a golf game that appeals equally to novices and experts; Pokémon Channel™, the first-ever Pokémon game available for Nintendo GameCube; and Final Fantasy®: Crystal Chronicles™, an upcoming role-playing game that continues the hit franchise.

[nitsu niflheim]

All I can say is way to go Nintendo.  I hope all those dumbass developers that dropped the GCN are taking notice.  The little system you said wasn't worth developing for is outselling the cool systems.  And to further rub it in, it outsold them on the biggest shopping day of the year.

[Gibdo Master]

I hope those stupid analyst that constantly spell doom for Nintendo take notice too.

I'm just overjoyed to hear about this though. It's nice to not be on the losing team for once. I just hope that all these people that are buying the GC up will buy the next console too.

[Ian Sane]

This is pretty good news.  It's nice to see that the sales jump from the price drop isn't just temporary and will hopefully last until Christmas.  Still this only number 1 for current sales so don't everyone be spamming message boards with "Nintendo is number 1!!  In you face Sony!"

[thecubedcanuck]

This really is amazing news and should really open the eyes of third party developers. I for one never thought this was possible, it is nice to be wrong.

[nolimit19]

this is crazy...i thought it would out sell xbox, but ps2.....thats a big suprise to me. if it comes out of this christmas as the best selling console, i think all those nay sayers should hit themselves in the head with their xbox and ps2s right now.

[joshnickerson]

Hmm, I'm sure the $79 Zelda bundles they had at Wal-Mart that day had something to do with it... I saw people walking away with one in each hand...

[KDR_11k]

MKDD is "America's hottest current game"? Oh, god, quality standards really fell.

[manunited4eva22]

Wow, just wow, that is just very amazing to me.

[OO7craft]

This is good news but.......

whats with nintendo?  every week the manage to outsell ps2 they boast about it.  well u know what, Sony did not boast when it kicked your A$$ the other 40 something weeks of the year.

altho this is good news.. they still lost these console wars by a huge margin.  Lets just hope nintendo fixes them selves up and actually starts listening to what the public wants, rather then throw stuff on them they dont want *CoughGBAconectivityCough*.

[Avinash_Tyagi]

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MKDD is "America's hottest current game"? Oh, god, quality standards really fell

Umm just because you didn't like it doesn't men anything.

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altho this is good news.. they still lost these console wars by a huge margin.

Its called a one year head-start,if GCN and Xbox had launched with Sony the race would be much closer.

[Mario]

O____O



500,000 in a week?!?!

YES! This is excellent! WOOHOO! Yay! OMG, just, YES!

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Originally posted by: KDR_11k
MKDD is "America's hottest current game"? Oh, god, quality standards really fell.

MKDD is an awesome game.

[jasonditz]

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Originally posted by: OO7craft
This is good news but.......

whats with nintendo?  every week the manage to outsell ps2 they boast about it.  well u know what, Sony did not boast when it kicked your A$$ the other 40 something weeks of the year.

That's because there aren't a hundred million fanboys claiming Sony is doomed every week.

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altho this is good news.. they still lost these console wars by a huge margin.  

By whose standards? They've made a ton a money off of the cube, and a ton more off the GBA.

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Lets just hope nintendo fixes them selves up and actually starts listening to what the public wants, rather then throw stuff on them they dont want *CoughGBAconectivityCough*.

Lets examine this rationally. Microsoft has lost literally billions of dollars "giving the public what it wants". Nintendo made over $400,000,000 last year... and everyone is pushing for them to change their strategy.

[Robageejammin]

i call it the...thats not a tear in my eye....plan

[jasonditz]

I'm surprised you guys didn't mention the image nintendo released along with the story

http://common.ziffdavisinternet.com/util_get_image/5/0,3363,sz=1&i=50782,00.jpg

[Myxtika1 Azn]

omfg, that image is hilarious. i couldn't stop laughing for a whole minute.

[OO7craft]

hey whats the deal with my icon?  I never realized It was not allowed?

and to defend myself b4... like I said,  Just because they make a profit doesnt mean they won the war.  And MS lost nothing.  True they didnt make as much as nintendo but they still made profit.  As long as they make $1 profit they have lost nothing.  Like i said b4 with the whole GBA conectivity.  Its all about money and greed.  its not innovative.. Its a freaking scam to get us to pay more $ to nintendo.  Nintendo is just concerened with making 1000000000000000%%%% profits and thats why they don't give the public what they want.  The public wants stuff that is fun but doesnt make millions for the companies, therefore this is why nintendo made more $ then x-box.  

tho I would much rather own a console that caters to my demands (public) and not thos of managment who are only intreasted in making money. You think the guy who first thought up of gamecube to GBA conectivity was thinking "I wonder what would be fun for players to interact with"? NO.. That was his 2nd thought.  His first was "What would be a great way to make money".

I hate nintendo with a passion...  And your probably wondering why I own a gamecube and come to nintendo msg boards... Well that is because I grew up with Nintendo and I will not abandon them after they make a few mistakes (late n64,Gamecube).  I will continue to buy nintendo products and one day hope they pull themselves back together and become the leaders they once were in the NES/SNES days.  

[Myxtika1 Azn]

I don't think that they're not in it to win any 'war'.  You're right that they're in it for the money, is that a crime?  They want their company to succeed financially, what's wrong with that?  Would you mind giving me a million dollars?  I would really like that.  Since I'm part of the public, it's what the public wants.  Please help.  

And you think losing billions of dollars and only making $1 back is worth it?  How about you give me $1 million dollars, and I'll give you $10 back.  It'll be totally worth it, cuz you'll still be getting something back.  Again, it is what I (the public) want.  Throwing money around blindly is stupid, and I'm pretty sure that if Microsoft does not have as much money as it does, the Xbox would have been discontinued months ago.

As for your comment on connectivity not being innovative.  I find it funny because I'll be picking up Pac-Man Vs. tomorrow afternoon.  I can't wait.  

[Bill Aurion]

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hey whats the deal with my icon?  I never realized It was not allowed?

Read the ToS...64x64 is the max size allowed...

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Like i said b4 with the whole GBA conectivity.  Its all about money and greed.  its not innovative.. Its a freaking scam to get us to pay more $ to nintendo.

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Nintendo is just concerened with making 1000000000000000%%%% profits and thats why they don't give the public what they want.  The public wants stuff that is fun but doesnt make millions for the companies, therefore this is why nintendo made more $ then x-box.

I've gotten most of everything that I've wanted...Please enlighten us to what "the public wants"...

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You think the guy who first thought up of gamecube to GBA conectivity was thinking "I wonder what would be fun for players to interact with"? NO.. That was his 2nd thought.  His first was "What would be a great way to make money".

Considering that Miyamoto is a strong believer in connectivity, I highly doubt this...

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And your probably wondering why I own a gamecube and come to nintendo msg boards... Well that is because I grew up with Nintendo and I will not abandon them after they make a few mistakes (late n64,Gamecube).  I will continue to buy nintendo products and one day hope they pull themselves back together and become the leaders they once were in the NES/SNES days.

This is quite possibly the most lame reason I have ever seen by someone for owning a system...You support a system because you like the games, not because of your hopes for it to become dominant in the industry...

[jasonditz]

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Originally posted by: OO7craft
hey whats the deal with my icon?  I never realized It was not allowed?

and to defend myself b4... like I said,  Just because they make a profit doesnt mean they won the war.  And MS lost nothing.  True they didnt make as much as nintendo but they still made profit.  As long as they make $1 profit they have lost nothing.

No, no... Microsoft didn't make a profit.

From Most Recent MSFT Quarterly Report: The home and entertainment division, that includes the Xbox video game machine, had an operating loss of $273 million on $581 million in revenue.

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Like i said b4 with the whole GBA conectivity.  Its all about money and greed.  its not innovative.. Its a freaking scam to get us to pay more $ to nintendo.  Nintendo is just concerened with making 1000000000000000%%%% profits and thats why they don't give the public what they want.  The public wants stuff that is fun but doesnt make millions for the companies, therefore this is why nintendo made more $ then x-box.  

Ummm.... huh?

So the Gamecube made more money because its less fun, and not what the public wants?

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tho I would much rather own a console that caters to my demands (public) and not thos of managment who are only intreasted in making money. You think the guy who first thought up of gamecube to GBA conectivity was thinking "I wonder what would be fun for players to interact with"? NO.. That was his 2nd thought.  His first was "What would be a great way to make money".

So are the public's only demands that the company loses money on the product? Hell, that's gotta put Microsoft wayyy out in front.

Pacman Versus looks plenty fun to me. God forbid it sells a few extra GBA/GC link cables though.

[OO7craft]

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And you think losing billions of dollars and only making $1 back is worth it?.

erm?  perhaps you need to look in the dictionary at the word "Profit" then rephrase your statement

and I do like the gamecube games.  I just get dissapointed in lack of features in games that appear on GC.  when ever they come on all 3 systems the cube is always missing an extra mode/feature that the x-box and ps2 versions have. and the few good 1st part games that come out is the reason I bought a gamecube.  I never get those 3rd party games for GC tho cause like i said... thier always missing features.

And u say miyamoto likes conectivity huh? well thats his public image.  He in it for the money too.

[Berto2K]

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Originally posted by: OO7craft
hey whats the deal with my icon?  I never realized It was not allowed?

and to defend myself b4... like I said,  Just because they make a profit doesnt mean they won the war.  And MS lost nothing.  True they didnt make as much as nintendo but they still made profit.  As long as they make $1 profit they have lost nothing.  Like i said b4 with the whole GBA conectivity.  Its all about money and greed.  its not innovative.. Its a freaking scam to get us to pay more $ to nintendo.  Nintendo is just concerened with making 1000000000000000%%%% profits and thats why they don't give the public what they want.  The public wants stuff that is fun but doesnt make millions for the companies, therefore this is why nintendo made more $ then x-box.  

Please show me one source that says Microsoft has made money on the Xbox.  Good luck, because you won't find any.  In every annual, quarterly, etc report, that whole division has reported loses.  Not once have they said that the Xbox has been a profitable business.  They have lost millions on the project in fact.  It helps yourself look better if you don't say stuff like like they are fact, when the information isn't and old.

Of course Nintendo is concerned about making money, they are a business.  That is the goal of any business.  If they didn't, they then aren't in business anymore. Don't try to argue this with me either, you won't win.

[BlkPaladin]

Microsoft hasn't seen any profit from the Xbox. For the last 2 years the department they are in has been in the red because of it. I doubt the Xbox made over $300million this year to counter-act the money it lost Microsoft. Then their is Xbox Live which continues to drag Xbox's revenue down.

There is two types of profit:
The first one is the money you see after the costs of production- (The Xbox losses money on each console to begin with and loses more when you factor in the incentives. Nintendo has seen a profit from it machine up until a few months ago.)
The second and more inportant Profit is the money you get after you paid all the expenses that you incurred to make the product which include R&D, Advertising, Labor, Materials, and related items. They are still about a year behind seeing anything in this area and with all they had to so far it seems they are going backwards in hopes that the second console will be what the PS2 has been this gen.

And Nintendo has seen more money made from the Gamecube in its life span than Sony has seen from the PS2 in its life span. (There was a 600 page report published a few months back that this site reported on and that is just for the Gamecube not factoring in the Gameboy.) So if you look at it from a business standpoint Nintendo is the in the #1 position in the industry.  

[Myxtika1 Azn]

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Originally posted by: OO7craft

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And you think losing billions of dollars and only making $1 back is worth it?.

erm?  perhaps you need to look in the dictionary at the word "Profit" then rephrase your statement

Look in the dictionary for what?  Change my statement? Why? Regardless of what the definition of the word profit is, I was asking if you think that losing billions of dollars just to make a $1 profit is worth it.  Personally, I think that's plain stupid.

Doctor Evil: Why make billions when we can make...millions?

[Koopa Troopa]

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MKDD is "America's hottest current game"? Oh, god, quality standards really fell.

It is completely deserving of such a position.

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And u say miyamoto likes conectivity huh? well thats his public image. He in it for the money too.

The man is rich. He doesn't need any money. He is in it for the love of his craft, plain and simple. He is one of the few people in the industry who cares for the gamer, the real gamer.

You know, I don't think you have posted even one legitimate argument. Nothing you've said is true, so why don't you stop wasting your, and more importantly our, time.