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RE: I know what the new 'product' in Spring is
« Reply #50 on: December 03, 2003, 09:54:35 PM »
Hmmmm.... I've not been following Nintendo for that long so I'm not in on any "hints or rumors" that may be out there. While I'm not against wild speculation, I do think that this idea could have been presented a little differently so as to be taken a little more seriously. While I HIGHLY doubt that Nintendo is going online, I can't say it would suprise me.

First, the Gamecube does already have the ability to handle online play. It's about as equiped as the Playstation was when it first came out. Granted, they didn't go as far as Microsoft and throw in a NIC card, but they did at least leave their options open. Microsoft from day one has been upfront the online gaming is a huge part of their future plans (which was not alltogether stupid of them). Therefore, while online play seems unlikely for the GameCube its still as technically possible as it was on the PlayStation.

IF Nintendo plans to stay in the console game (which I believe they will) then certainly they understand that online gaming is the future. Yet Nintendo seems like the kind of company that likes to keep their cards close and watch what everybody else does for a while. Think about it, you've got Sony and Microsoft both fighting to build up online gaming arenas. Both of them are King Kongs in their own right. Sony has the market while Microsoft has the money. If I were Nintendo I would sit back, watch them make their mistakes, and then build my own arena that trumps both of them. With that in mind we can then begin to build what an online gaming arena in the Nintendo world would look like.

First off, I think they will follow MS and build a centralized, closed system. This is what MS did right in that it provides a standard simplified experience for every game. I am an XBL member and I can tell you the experience is awesome. There are some things that you go into every game knowing how to operate. Voice chat is also amazing. You don't know how awesome it is until you frag someone and hear them cry out your name in despair 100 miles away. On the other hand, I think that they will take from Sony's model a little bit and keep pricing at a per/game level. I think that Nintendo would also learn from Sony's mistake and make broadband a requirement from the beginning while following Sony's lead in letting publishers have more control over each games online capabilities.

I dunno. It seems unlikely but I can see Nintendo doing it. They've had enough time to build up the infastructure to do it with, and I like the direction I see Nintendo going. I also think that Nintendo would be super quiet about this and then introduce it with a ton of fanfare. Then again, knowing Nintendo it could just be a cross between Pokemon & Dance Dance Revolution ;-]
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RE: I know what the new 'product' in Spring is
« Reply #51 on: December 03, 2003, 11:21:25 PM »
The thing is - when Nintendo spoke about this upcoming annoucement in the Spring, they said this new product would "revolutionize" the video game industry. On-line gaming has already been done, so it wouldn't be considered revolutionary. They claim that it's not a new console (although it could be the "N5", it's highly doubtful since developer kits haven't been sent out) or a handheld. I think that this is a swerve to help keep buzzing and the industry interested...with the PSP close on the horizon, the next generatin of GameBoy is the more likely candidate for the subject of this announcement.

While this might be a bit crazy, I think Nintendo has found a way to harness the power of lightning bugs to provide a cheap, stable and endless power solution for the next generation of GameBoy (yes, I'm kidding). Seriously, I am thinking something a little larger than the GBASP, with the processing ability and graphical power to play any disc from the current GameCube library. The only thing I don't see is how they could fit all of that inside a tiny case. Heat and battery life would be a huge issue.

If Nintendo is able to pull that off and beat (or at least match) the MSRP of the PSP, Nintendo will secure their place in the handheld market for many years to come. This new handheld could take advantage of 320+ GameCube titles already available at launch, making them much more appealing than the PSP - which would be building it's library from scratch. This would also fullfill the "Portable GameCube" fantasy that many people around here seem to have.

I know this sounds far-fetched, but is it, really?
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RE: I know what the new 'product' in Spring is
« Reply #52 on: December 04, 2003, 06:19:44 AM »
It will be a chip, that is implanted into your brain. You will play games just by thinking about them.

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« Reply #53 on: December 04, 2003, 06:26:47 AM »
The "Portable Gamecube as the NextGen Gameboy" isn't at all far fetched. I mentioned that idea two years ago in an XBOX forum and everyone thought I was nuts. It would definately validate N's choice of the mini-dvd.

One other possible speculation about spring. It could be Mario 128... Nintendo keeps talking about how revoloutionary the gameplay will be, and how they didn't want to show it at E3 for fear of getting ripped off.  
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RE: I know what the new 'product' in Spring is
« Reply #54 on: December 04, 2003, 06:35:45 AM »
"The thing is - when Nintendo spoke about this upcoming annoucement in the Spring, they said this new product would 'revolutionize' the video game industry."

That doesn't necessarily mean anything.  Nintendo says that almost EVERYTHING they make will "revolutionize" the industry.  I believe the e-Reader was supposed to revolutionize the industry.

Good point about online already being done and thus can't be revolutionary but that doesn't completely eliminate the possibility of online being the new product.  Nintendo may very well feel that their own online solution is unique and thus is revolutionary.  If they've found a way to make online gaming profitable without making the consumer pay-to-play then that would be revolutionary.

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RE:I know what the new 'product' in Spring is
« Reply #55 on: December 04, 2003, 08:05:16 AM »
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That doesn't necessarily mean anything.  Nintendo says that almost EVERYTHING they make will "revolutionize" the industry.  I believe the e-Reader was supposed to revolutionize the industry.



I agree with that, like when Nintendo was hyping the connectivity bonuses in Prime and Fusion, which were disappointing to say the least. That said, I don't think Nintendo would make such a big deal about something that really is ordinary. They would get bad press after E3, and it wouldn't be worth it in the first place. The best idea is to forget out the new product and wait 'till E3. Nobody wants another Megaton debacle again.  

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« Reply #56 on: December 04, 2003, 08:08:00 AM »
"""that's the dumbest thing i've heard you say since your suggestion for a games based on nightmare on elm street. nothing nintendo has ever said even remotely hints that the gamecube (and especially the gameboy advance) will ever go online in march."""

thinking that nintendo will actually hint towards something is teh dumbest thing IVE ever heard.  nintendos announcements are nearly NEVER hinted at prior to the announcement.  think of teh GBA SP, and the comic book art covered cube.  hmmm..

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RE: I know what the new 'product' in Spring is
« Reply #57 on: December 04, 2003, 09:09:59 AM »
true.  but did nintendo ever state "we will not release a new version of the gameboy advance"?  i don't believe so.

did nintendo ever state "online is not profitable and we are not interested in persuing it at the time being"?  yup.
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RE:I know what the new 'product' in Spring is
« Reply #58 on: December 04, 2003, 09:42:00 AM »
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true. but did nintendo ever state "we will not release a new version of the gameboy advance"? i don't believe so.


They said its NOT the next GB or console.  Okay?  Now, i 'm not dismissing it as a possibility, but since we're saying Nintendo said no to online, they also said no to that. They did say they wont go online until its profitable.  Maybe, just maybe they've been doing work behind the scenes, and they figured out their plan.  Is that impossible?  Yup.

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The best idea is to forget out the new product and wait 'till E3. Nobody wants another Megaton debacle again.


I think most people who coime in these forums will not get out of hand because of the megaton rumor.  I think we're safe to speculate all over the place, because most of us won't get duped again.


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RE:I know what the new 'product' in Spring is
« Reply #59 on: December 04, 2003, 10:05:33 AM »
Strell no offense, but trying to trash someone for proving you wrong is in itself juvenile.  As for what it is, I'm hoping wireless gba-gcn connector.  Probablly not, but just a wish.

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« Reply #60 on: December 04, 2003, 10:37:38 AM »
oh god - there is absolutely NO WAY that it could POSSIBLY be another version of the GBA.  oh man, i cant even believe that im hearing this.  its not even been a year since the sp came out.  now people are ALREADY speculating of a new gba..  wtf!?!  nope, its not that, its not a new console...  the internet possibility is infinitely more possible than those 2

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« Reply #61 on: December 04, 2003, 01:52:28 PM »
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I'm hoping wireless gba-gcn connector.  Probablly not, but just a wish.


Nintendo has already announced the wireless connector. I read about it a few months ago in the GBA section of IGN. PGC might have a news article about it in the archives as well.
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RE:I know what the new 'product' in Spring is
« Reply #62 on: December 04, 2003, 03:57:39 PM »
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I'm hoping wireless gba-gcn connector.  Probablly not, but just a wish.


Nintendo has already announced the wireless connector. I read about it a few months ago in the GBA section of IGN. PGC might have a news article about it in the archives as well.


There are making wireless connectors for GBA to GBA. He's talking about making the GCN to GBA cord wireless.

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« Reply #63 on: December 04, 2003, 04:44:21 PM »
uhm, i think he knows that.  besides, what kind of a big deal would that be?  hell, thats hardly an announcement.  thats one of those "meh, cool, i dont really care" things.

i think nintendo will announce that they have 1,000 gun-satelites orbitting this planet, and any country that does not bend to their rule shall face the wrath.  yes, nintendo will soon announce world domination.

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« Reply #64 on: December 04, 2003, 04:56:51 PM »
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i think nintendo will announce that they have 1,000 gun-satelites orbitting this planet, and any country that does not bend to their rule shall face the wrath.  yes, nintendo will soon announce world domination.


That wouldn't new, but it sure would be exciting!

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RE: I know what the new 'product' in Spring is
« Reply #65 on: December 05, 2003, 05:07:36 AM »
Yeah, new would be if they planned to replace mankind with mushroom people...

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« Reply #66 on: December 05, 2003, 05:09:04 AM »
Is that really a bad thing?...
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RE:I know what the new 'product' in Spring is
« Reply #67 on: December 05, 2003, 05:49:49 AM »
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oh god - there is absolutely NO WAY that it could POSSIBLY be another version of the GBA.  oh man, i cant even believe that im hearing this.  its not even been a year since the sp came out.  now people are ALREADY speculating of a new gba..  wtf!?!  nope, its not that, its not a new console...  the internet possibility is infinitely more possible than those 2

no one here said it would be a new console.  in fact, i believe the omen said the exact opposite.  i'd argue more, but considering you were banned last night, it would be rather pointless.
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« Reply #68 on: December 05, 2003, 01:20:44 PM »
I hope it's a "Tickle-Me-Daisy" or "Tickle-Me-Toadette."  So cute!
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RE: I know what the new 'product' in Spring is
« Reply #69 on: December 05, 2003, 01:54:26 PM »
Why is it both of them are female? I think that encourages fondling and r@pe. Not that tickle me Mario would be any cleaner. Something like a Toad-Furby would be cool though.
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« Reply #70 on: December 05, 2003, 02:52:55 PM »
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Why is it both of them are female? I think that encourages fondling and r@pe.


I think that's the point, LOL

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« Reply #71 on: December 05, 2003, 08:16:09 PM »
Berny: Hello? Since when was "promoting rape" a reason for the japanese not to release something?

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« Reply #72 on: December 05, 2003, 08:36:06 PM »
Geeze, you guys! I can't believe you all are debating over this. It's already been revealed: Link

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« Reply #73 on: December 10, 2003, 10:19:47 AM »
Now with this AOL 'service being confirmed, i feel its almost certainly an online strategy.
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« Reply #74 on: December 10, 2003, 03:15:35 PM »
Now your "crazy" idea is becoming reality. I hope it is online.