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GOTY Contenders [b]DISCUSSION[/b]
« on: November 26, 2003, 08:36:20 AM »
i.e. no one word posts, i don't want this locked, also to keep this open don't flame other peoples choices, just select a game you consider GOTY and back it up with a reason.

F-Zero GX

wow. just wow. this game is probably the most pollished game i have seen in a LONG time, the fact that Amusement Vision some how got 30 detailed cars in detailed courses all running at 60FPS at blistering speeds is a technological achievement, not only that it has perfectly ballenced AI, where if you don't win a race you can recover from that in subsiquent races. also the music is superb, argh look at the time, i have to goto work :\, so i guess i'll be shorter than i planned

F-Zero GX goty? i surely hope so.  

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« Reply #1 on: November 26, 2003, 08:49:15 AM »
Only GC games or also other platforms?

Eitherway, my choise is Legend of Zelda: Wind Waker, because quite simply there is nothing I don't like about this game, I even enjoy sailing, which seems to be disliked by many. Only minus I really could give it is that I'm such a wuss and I am afraid of sea(Nothing like I don't go on cruises or stuff, it just the monsters man, the monsters ), I just keep hoping I won't get attacked by those large octos, and everytime that happens I start yelling like a little girl. *sniff*
Also I think the story is awesome and really enjoy dungeons and boss battles, just wish they wouldn't have cutten away those two dungeons.

Runner up is Metroid Prime(Was released this year in PAL)

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« Reply #2 on: November 26, 2003, 08:56:43 AM »
you should consider changing the title of the thread.  i had to read your entire post and think for about 30 seconds before i realized you meant game of the year.  also, do you mean on all systems, or only the gamecube?

and i have to say i give the honors to wind waker.  hands down it was the most fun i had playing a game all year.  the music was good, visuals were good, and all the other stuff that's nice but not required.  the only thing that's required is to have fun, and wind waker was definitely where it's at.  the lack of dungeons didn't both me one bit, as i've always enjoyed trotting around town more than fighting enemies, anyway.  i felt empathy for the characters and i wanted to see the two lovers hook up (not like that, perv), i wanted to see the mail get delivered, and i wanted to shoot tingle in the face for charging me so damn much to decipher a map.  i haven't cared so much for npc's since majora's mask.
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« Reply #3 on: November 26, 2003, 09:02:04 AM »
OH! Game of the Year... DUH! I feel dumb. I'm not good with obscure acronyms found on the internet. jk lol WW rox.

Ok, well, Fish, I concur. That was a b-e-a-utiful game. My favorite ever.
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« Reply #4 on: November 26, 2003, 09:17:05 AM »
Zelda seems like a good candidate for GOTY.  It's not the best Zelda game ever made but it's still incredible and one of the best games on the system.  I can't really think of anything else Nintendo has released this year for the Cube that matches up to it.  Mario Kart and F-Zero are good but are very similar to their N64 equivalents so I wouldn't give the nod to them.

On the third party front Skies of Arcadia Legends, Splinter Cell, Ikaruga, Soul Calibur II and Viewtiful Joe are potential candidates.  However since Skies and Splinter Cell are ports I'm reluctant to give them the nod over an original title.  Soul Calibur II is good but again it's basically just more Soul Calibur so again I want to honour something more original.  Ikaruga is technically a Dreamcast port but since it was never released in North America I'll consider it a new game and thus a high contender.  I've haven't played VJ yet unfortunately so I can't really discuss it.  Hopefully I'll get it before the end of the year.

Actually a lot of what I considered to be potential GOTY candidates at E3 have been delayed until next year.  I was picking titles like FF: Crystal Chronicles and Pikmin 2 as potentials.

This year was more of the year of the GBA in my opinion.  Pokemon Ruby/Sapphire, Fire Emblem, Castlevania: Aria of Sorrow, Warioware, Mario & Luigi, and FFTA are all worth candidates not just for GBA GOTY but overall Game of the Year.  Of course Super Mario Bros 3 will likely win despite being a 13 year old game and thus should be excluded in my opinion.  The 1990 GOTY should not also be the 2003 GOTY.  If you pick SMB3 than Ocarina of Time is the best Cube game of 2003.

Here's my short and sweet picks.

Gamecube: The Legend of Zelda: The Wind Waker
GBA: Final Fantasy Tactics Advance

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« Reply #5 on: November 26, 2003, 11:04:17 AM »
If I had to bet money I'd say the award will go to either WW or GTA3 (I don't differentiate between GTA3 and GTAVC). GTA3 seems more likely despite being a mediocre game, since it is popular like hell.
The Best Cube Game will go to Wind Waker, again due to popularity. I'd like to see the award go to VJ, but I doubt the jury would choose a minor third-party game instead of a huge first-party one.

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« Reply #6 on: November 26, 2003, 11:34:35 AM »
Wind Waker or Mario & Luigi...Nothing else comes close...

(except maybe PoP, but I personally dislike it...)
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« Reply #7 on: November 26, 2003, 11:53:34 AM »
Yeah, POP really doesn't appeal to me. By the way, is this game of the year on GCN or over all consoles? If its over all of them I change my vote to Wind Waker.
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« Reply #8 on: November 26, 2003, 12:06:11 PM »
I know I've read that the missing two dungeons quote was a misquote of sorts. I think they were cut because they weren't good, not because Nintendo didn't have time. It was a matter of putting out a great game or a good one. Look into it before you spread it much more. Didn't Vice City win last year too? I don't think its in contention this year.

My vote for GC GOTY goes to Viewtiful Joe and Overall GOTY goes to WW. It'll probably go to Prince of Persia or KOTOR or something though. I'm getting kinda cynical, but I'm just pretty sure that the Cube, despite its sales surge, will get over looked this year.

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« Reply #9 on: November 26, 2003, 12:15:40 PM »
Vice City was last year? Yes, that's one stupid game that can't beat WW this year but probably would have because people are stupid. And Halo 2 doesnt come out this year...at least I don't think it does.
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« Reply #10 on: November 26, 2003, 01:41:15 PM »
Wind Waker.  Game of the Century.
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« Reply #11 on: November 26, 2003, 01:43:02 PM »
what the hell is POP....either way my vote goes to zelda. however i didnt play a whole lot of games this year....
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« Reply #12 on: November 26, 2003, 01:44:27 PM »
Nintendo has really been on the upbeat releasing some great games this year, while Sony and MS themselves haven't. Obviously Wind Waker is the biggest contender, and I think it'll face it's biggest competition from thrid parties, namely Ubi Soft, who has been releasing some really great games lately.
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« Reply #13 on: November 26, 2003, 02:01:08 PM »
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what the hell is POP


Pop is Prince of Persia: Sands of Time

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« Reply #14 on: November 26, 2003, 02:54:09 PM »
Mario Kart is my personal pick, but I'm an oddball.

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« Reply #15 on: November 26, 2003, 03:33:05 PM »
I am a really big fan of the Zelda series.  Wind Waker was definitely an incredible evolution to the series with the emotion that was added by the cel-shaded graphics; however, I think my choice for Game of the Year is definitely going to be with the outstanding "Prince of Persia:  Sands of Time".  While Wind Waker was evolutionary, Prince of Persia was revolutionary.  I haven't played anything else that comes close to this game.  I was hooked at E3 and I'm definitely hooked now.  Also, for you Wind Waker fans, you should try "Beyond Good and Evil".  I think Ubi Soft is on a roll.  We'll see how "XIII" turns out.
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« Reply #16 on: November 26, 2003, 04:36:12 PM »
Are these the same people that gave Game of the Show to MGS2 and Doom3 even though they were still just reels? Cuz if they are...
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« Reply #17 on: November 26, 2003, 06:11:53 PM »
What was revolutionary about Prince of Persia? Just curious.
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« Reply #18 on: November 26, 2003, 06:22:43 PM »
i thought Metroid Prime won GOTY last year, also please guys, don't do small posts, I would really rather this not get locked as a poll, because that wasn't my aim, also yeah go nuts all systems included, i almost posted this in general chat, but the volume of traffic wouldn't have been as high and i also figured that most would chose gamecube games ^_^ bias much?

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« Reply #19 on: November 26, 2003, 08:15:38 PM »
No Battlefield 1914 won the GOTY.
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« Reply #20 on: November 26, 2003, 09:20:10 PM »
Mario and Luigi should most deifinitely be considered for Game of the Year.  If more RPG's were like this, I'd play them more often, and probably wouldn't be so bitter toward them in general when I see one get egregiously high ranks from mags and sites (it's almost as if they are exempt from the review criteria.)  The game is totally skill-based.  Turn-based yes, but you can play through every dungeon and every (non-random) fight without receiving damage, if your reflexes are good enough.  If you lose, it is your own fault, not some random dice-throw.  You don't even have to level up if you don't want to.  It makes it easier, but you can defeat every boss in the game at level 1.  And the special attacks do more damage the better you get at performing them, and that is good game design. The unfortunate fact is this game will probably not be considered based on the fact that  it didn't receive a lot of hype from magazines, and nobody considers the GBA a serious force.

For the GC, I am really torn between Wind Waker, Mario Kart, and F-Zero.  F-Zero is for all consideration perfect.  The gameplay is Fast and Furious(tm), the control is fantastic, and the track designs are insanely genius.  With loads of unlockables, Arcade connectivity, Multiplayer, Online competition (Internet scoreboard, which is, for all intent and purpose, an online mode) it is hard to resist.  It may be difficult, but it is not impossible.

MArio Kart is downright fun.  I don't care what IGN says.  I don't care what the haters say.  It's fun.  It's like a slower F-Zero GX with insane weapons and frantic action.  And I have never seen a videogame so animated.  Nothing in the game ever stops moving, the framerate never takes a dive.  The Multiplayer is godly, Shine Theif on Tilt-a-Kart is a lovable chaos.  Welcome addition, and good on ya Nintendo.

And of course, Wind Waker, which I think suffers in the mainstream's eye because it was released so early in the year, and those (people that would call Zelda something similar but starting with a "C") jerks, but the game remains fantastic to today.  It is a beautiful work of art, with cool dungeons, WAY cool boss battles, and an enormous expansive world to explore and find things in at your leisure.  "Great" is insufficient for this game.

What I think the GOTY  is immaterial, but if I had to choose one or be dumped in pirahna-fill acid, I'd choose Wind Waker.  I love it, it's so baaad.

Of course, I turned down many games when I thought of my picks, but are no less fantastic.  Viewtiful Joe, Soul Calibur 2, FFTA, Fire Emblem, Wario ware and Advance Wars 2 all are superbly stellar titels which everybody can pick up and enjoy for the start.  Sorry for the long post, heh.
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« Reply #21 on: November 27, 2003, 04:51:58 PM »
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My vote for GC GOTY goes to Viewtiful Joe and Overall GOTY goes to WW.

wha??  so your vote for gamecube game of the year is viewtiful joe, but your vote for overall game of the year is wind waker, which is a gamecube exclusive?  that makes about as much sense as last year when splinter cell won overall game of the year, but wasn't even nominated for console game of the year.
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« Reply #22 on: November 28, 2003, 05:59:31 AM »
"that makes about as much sense as last year when splinter cell won overall game of the year, but wasn't even nominated for console game of the year."

I believe it was the other way around.  Splinter Cell won console game of the year and wasn't nominated for overall game.  Actually if you follow the official awards the big hyped Xbox game of each year of the Xbox's existance has won the award (Halo, Splinter Cell) both times beating critical favourites (GTA3, Metroid Prime).  Considering how things have gone the last two years odds are another hyped Xbox game will win again.  So I figure that would be Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic.

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« Reply #23 on: November 28, 2003, 06:18:29 AM »
"So I figure that would be Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic."

That is very good game fwiw.

As for GOTY, in all honesty, nothing has overly impressed me this year, with the execption of SSX3. It gets my vote.
KOTOR was really good, but not GOTY worthy, Wind Waker was far to boring, MK- DD is far to much an N64 copy and nothing on the PS2 jumps out at all.

Oh well.

On a side note, I read someone saying that True Crime was better than Vice City, I think that is the funniest statement of the year. Zombies and a  frame rate that drops to 1fps at times, yeah right.

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« Reply #24 on: November 28, 2003, 07:51:13 PM »
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MK- DD is far to much an N64 copy


lol except they changed it entirely lol

Of course, the year isn't even over yet (hey here comes R: Racing Evolution), but I think I'll take DDR Extreme as my any-system pick (it added a TON of spectacular songs, introduced the 'Marvelous' step, and resurrected 'nonstop' mode, as well as kept Oni mode), and probably Mario Kart (I gots a review in a day or two) or Ikaruga as my GC pick. If Ikaruga counts, that is.