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Offline The Omen

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David Bowie
« on: September 19, 2003, 09:44:31 PM »
I know theres a lot of youngsters on these boards, so i dont expect a lot of feedback.  Anyway, i recently got into Bowie , and i have to say i'm very impressed.  I know most of you will think of his 80's 'work', which isn't anything like his 70's or 90's stuff.  The most interesting cds so far are what is known as the 'BERLIN TRILOGY'.  Starting with 'Low', then 'Heroes' and ending with 'Lodger'.  This guy was so far ahead of his time. I encourage everyone young and old, to start a collection.  I now have 15 cds from Bowie (including the newly released 'Reality'), and theyre all great.  Some are hard rock, some are industrial, some are funk, some are airy techno jungle beats, and some are just plain wierd.  But, since nobody will read this, yay for freaking me!!!!!

Bottoms up!!!
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« Reply #1 on: September 19, 2003, 09:47:08 PM »
Well, I need to go get another beer in a minute, but I will grace this thread with my presence first.  

I must admit that I haven't listened to a lot of Bowie, although I did grow up in the '80s.  But there's one song of his which recieved a very good cover from Nirvana, which was "The Man Who Sold the World".  I rather like that song, although the Nirvana cover was loads better.
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« Reply #2 on: September 19, 2003, 09:50:46 PM »
I used to think the Nirvana version was better, until i started listening to the Bowie version.  His voice brings a lot more ...i dont know...haunting to the tone of the song.   It is a little more folksy, though.  Not bad for a 33 year old single.
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« Reply #3 on: September 20, 2003, 06:44:00 AM »
I love David Bowie.  You're right that his 80's stuff isn't really a true reflection of his overall body of work.  He's going out on tour soon and I am hoping to be able to get tickets to his Northern California show.  It's funny you would happen to start this thread now.  I've had "Young Americans" stuck in my head for the last few days for some reason.
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« Reply #4 on: September 20, 2003, 06:59:15 AM »
Thank you MS.PIKMIN, for saving this thread from being obliterated out of sight.  

I just got tickets today to the Philly show.
By the way, the sad thing is, i love the cd 'Lets dance'.  Did you get his new CD?  Very good.  
I guess i was just showing my age
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« Reply #5 on: September 20, 2003, 07:11:34 AM »
You're welcome.  Us old folk have to stick together.  Let's Dance came out when I was in 7th or 8th grade.  I can't remember which, but I really did like it and still do.  It's just such a departure from what he was doing up until then.  I do not have his new cd but am definitely going to get it.  His show should be really good.  I remember seeing old concert footage from probably around the Ziggy Stardust times and he is good live.  The San Jose show is my only hope of sseing him.  We can get a babysitter for a late night going 2 hours away from home, but 2 days or so to go to L.A. and back isn't going to happen.  
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« Reply #6 on: September 20, 2003, 07:20:01 AM »
Lets dance came out when i was 10, i think, but by then i alrready had Scary Monsters on vinyl, and thats all i owned up until a few months back....now i'm obsessed.  I can hardly afford another obsession   I have 'Bowie at the beeb', the live cd, and he sounds really good live, so i cant wait.  I'm taking my uncle, who back in the day was telling me "forget Zeppelin and listen to this guy Bowie".  Finally, i listened, 20 years later.
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« Reply #7 on: September 20, 2003, 07:23:15 AM »
Lets dance came out when i was 10, i think, but by then i alrready had Scary Monsters on vinyl, and thats all i owned up until a few months back....now i'm obsessed.  I can hardly afford another obsession   I have 'Bowie at the beeb', the live cd, and he sounds really good live, so i cant wait.  I'm taking my uncle, who back in the day was telling me "forget Zeppelin and listen to this guy Bowie".  Finally, i listened, 20 years later.
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« Reply #8 on: September 20, 2003, 07:29:25 AM »
Anyone seen Labyrinth?  It's so weird yet so great
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« Reply #9 on: September 20, 2003, 07:48:02 AM »
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Anyone seen Labyrinth? It's so weird yet so great


I love it, and the soundtrack.  It may be nostalgia, but whats wrong with that? I loved for worse reasons than nostalgia, i'll tell you that.  
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« Reply #10 on: September 20, 2003, 07:54:59 AM »
I forgot about Scary Monsters.  I never owned that album but I got MTV for the first time in late '83 and they showed the videos for Ashes to Ashes and Fashion alot.  

Note: This was when MTV was good and actually showed VIDEOS!  I remember my sister and I would camp out in the living room on weekends and watch MTV all night.  They would only break in at the top and bottom of the hour for commercials.  
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« Reply #11 on: September 20, 2003, 08:06:18 AM »
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I forgot about Scary Monsters. I never owned that album but I got MTV for the first time in late '83 and they showed the videos for Ashes to Ashes and Fashion alot.

Note: This was when MTV was good and actually showed VIDEOS! I remember my sister and I would camp out in the living room on weekends and watch MTV all night. They would only break in at the top and bottom of the hour for commercials.


Scary Monsters is a great cd, often labeled 'the last great bowie album' .  Ashes to ashes is incredible.  He basically rips apart his own persona of 'Major Tom', calling him a junkie, you got to love that.

By the way, i had MTV when it debuted, and there were NO commercials-ever.  I was so hooked, i used to be able to name the video before the little synopsis came on, like 5 seconds..  I was cool
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« Reply #12 on: September 20, 2003, 08:12:57 AM »
New feature (to keep this thread visible)  Bowie lyrics of the week!

'BREAKING GLASS'-off of the '77 lp,' Low'

Baby, I've been, breaking glass in your room again
Listen

Don't look at the carpet, I drew something awful on it
See

You're such a wonderful person
But you got problems oh-oh-oh-oh
I'll never touch you

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« Reply #13 on: September 20, 2003, 08:58:04 AM »
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By the way, i had MTV when it debuted, and there were NO commercials-ever.  I was so hooked, i used to be able to name the video before the little synopsis came on, like 5 seconds..  I was cool


You're right.  I couldn't remember exactly the deal as it was so long ago.  But I do remember staying up all night watching videos, and you would watch for what seemed like forever before a "veejay" would come on.  It was so great.  They were good about showing pretty diverse genres of music too.  I remember watching "120 minutes" back then.  There were some pretty cool videos.  It's too bad they've clogged themselves up with all the distractions they have now.  It really sucks when they think it's great to show "4 in a row".  Anyway, I'll contribute to the Bowie-ness again later.  I'm off to my mother-in-law's for a family lunch. *stabs out own eyes with fork so can't drive*  *mother-in-law says "that's okay, i'll come pick you up"*
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« Reply #14 on: September 20, 2003, 02:09:39 PM »
He has a song in Moulin Rouge "Nature Boy" That is performed at the beginning of the movie.  "Diamond Dogs" is also on the movie, sung by Beck.  And "Elephant Love Medely" has "Heroes" in it, which was written by Bowie and Brian Eno.  Also on the soundtrack, (I'm not sure if it's in the movie though) is a remix of "Nature Boy" with Massive Attack.  But I prefer the un-remixed version.  

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« Reply #15 on: September 20, 2003, 06:42:22 PM »
Slap that baby, make it scream!

David Bowie's alright. . . Labyrinth was cooler, though.
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« Reply #16 on: September 30, 2003, 09:06:12 AM »
Bowie lyrics of the week:  'ITS NO GAME(part1)' , off of the 1980 release,
' Scary monsters(and super creeps)'.

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Shiruetto ya kage ga kakumei o miteiru
Mo tengoku no giyu no kaidan wa nai

Silhouettes and shadows watch the revolution
No more free steps to heaven
It's no game

Ore genjitsu kara shime dasare
Nani ga okkote irunoka wakara nai
Doko ni kyokun wa arunoka
Hitobito wa yubi o orareteiru
Konna dokusaisha ni iyashime rareru nowa kanashii

I am barred from the event
I really don't understand the situation
And it's no game

Documentaries on refugees
Couples 'gainst the target
You throw a rock against the road
And it breaks into pieces
Draw the blinds on yesterday, and it's all so much scarier
Put a bullet in my brain, and it makes all the papers

Nammin no kiroku eiga
Hyoteki o se ni shita koibito tachi
Michi ni ishi o nage reba
Kona gona ni kudake
Kino ni huta o sureba
Kyohu wa masu
Ore no atama ni tama o buchi kome ba
Shinbun wa kaki tateru

There's always tomorrow when people have their fingers broken
To be insulted by these fascists - it's so degrading
And it's no game

Shutup!   Shutu...

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« Reply #17 on: September 30, 2003, 09:08:09 AM »
Bowie lyrics of the week:  'ITS NO GAME(part1)' , off of the 1980 release,
' Scary monsters(and super creeps)'.

1
2
1-2-2

Shiruetto ya kage ga kakumei o miteiru
Mo tengoku no giyu no kaidan wa nai

Silhouettes and shadows watch the revolution
No more free steps to heaven
It's no game

Ore genjitsu kara shime dasare
Nani ga okkote irunoka wakara nai
Doko ni kyokun wa arunoka
Hitobito wa yubi o orareteiru
Konna dokusaisha ni iyashime rareru nowa kanashii

I am barred from the event
I really don't understand the situation
And it's no game

Documentaries on refugees
Couples 'gainst the target
You throw a rock against the road
And it breaks into pieces
Draw the blinds on yesterday, and it's all so much scarier
Put a bullet in my brain, and it makes all the papers

Nammin no kiroku eiga
Hyoteki o se ni shita koibito tachi
Michi ni ishi o nage reba
Kona gona ni kudake
Kino ni huta o sureba
Kyohu wa masu
Ore no atama ni tama o buchi kome ba
Shinbun wa kaki tateru

There's always tomorrow when people have their fingers broken
To be insulted by these fascists - it's so degrading
And it's no game

Shutup!   Shutu...

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« Reply #18 on: September 30, 2003, 07:10:53 PM »
its funny you guys mention the labrynth...i was watchign some travel channel show called worlds most scary places...and they talked about this big corn field maze. Which reminded me of the labrynth. I had a sudden cravign to watch it. Now you guys are talkign about that movie.....
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« Reply #19 on: September 30, 2003, 07:19:30 PM »
Bah, I went to look for my copy, but I can't find it!  It's a Beta tape too, for those who remember Beta players.  For those who don't, Beta tapes were basically mini-VHS tapes ^_^.  My Beta player really sucks and only works half the time anyway, but I can't find Labyrinth!  First it was my copy of Final Fantasy III, and now Labyrinth...Those evil goblins must be taking my stuff!
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« Reply #20 on: September 30, 2003, 09:32:58 PM »
i have/had a beta player somewhere, isn't it better quality than VHS? but like so many other things didn't have the funding and therefor didn't thrive unlike VHS? (like amiga )
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« Reply #21 on: October 01, 2003, 01:33:06 AM »
Labrynth is a wonderful movie I have watched it so many times, not a bowie fan though, only 17...
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« Reply #22 on: October 01, 2003, 10:21:50 AM »
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i have/had a beta player somewhere, isn't it better quality than VHS? but like so many other things didn't have the funding and therefor didn't thrive unlike VHS? (like amiga )


Yep, i do believe Beta was better, and Sony really wanted it to succeed, but they were the only ones, i guess.

Get the Labrynth DVD.  It has a lot of behind the scenes stuff...its really good.

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« Reply #23 on: October 02, 2003, 10:50:11 AM »
the reason why vhs beat out beta was industry ambition. Beta are great quality and last a long time. VHS is crappy quality and don't last more then a few years without degrading. They hated the fact that you could copy things at great quality so beta was purposely killed. VHS degrsades quality so the industry didnt mind that you recorded their stuff because it wasn't as good as the orignal.
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« Reply #24 on: October 03, 2003, 05:47:02 PM »
Omen, I just wanted to tell you that I went out right after my last post on this thread and bought the new cd along with a double cd of singles from 1969-1993.  There was a terrible selection so I figured the singles cd was good since I'd be able to hear stuff from all through his career.

I really like the new cd.  It is great and I hope to be able to get tickets when he comes here.  I have also been able to rekindle my fondness for the Let's Dance phase.  I really do like it.  I think it just hasn't been my favorite because I was so saturated with it when that record was out.  I watched MTV almost non-stop back then and they were always showing videos from that record.

The only thing I find troubling is hearing Under Pressure and not being able to get Vanilla Ice out of my head.


Edit:  Uglydot, as I was looking at this thread my 2 year old walked up, saw your avatar, pointed and started yelling KIRBY!.......IT'S KIRBY MAMA!  





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