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Offline Rhoq

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GameCube goes on-line?
« on: September 10, 2003, 09:19:04 AM »
Story at IGN.com

Apparently Nintendo entered into a deal with AOL to become GameCube on-line's preferred ISP. AOL/Time Warner will advertise Nintendo products and send software kits to developers that want to make on-line games for the cube. Nintendo said that even with the announcement of this deal, it does not mean that they have changed their position on on-line gaming.

My question is: What the hell happened with GameSpy? I thought they were working with Nintendo to bring the 'Cube on-line?
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« Reply #1 on: September 10, 2003, 09:39:18 AM »
AOL?!  What the f*ck?  If I have to have some sh!tty AOL connection to play online then Nintendo can kiss any hope of online success goodbye.  The Gamespy idea sounded much better.
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« Reply #2 on: September 10, 2003, 09:54:02 AM »
I use AOL with my Broadband connection, sounds good to me.


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« Reply #3 on: September 10, 2003, 10:07:37 AM »
I can't stand AOL, but this was a great business move by Ninty...

"Furthermore, Nintendo said that its products will be advertised on AOL websites and AOL Time Warner websites. Nintendo said it is also working on making a deal to promote AOL Broadband – by possibly bundling AOL Broadband demos with the GameCube." -Nintendo Insider
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« Reply #4 on: September 10, 2003, 11:24:18 AM »
I went into a gaming shop eaelier today to inquire about the broadband adapter (I want it for LAN).

They told me Nintendo have discontinued it because the service didn't take off.

WHAT?! Where do people get this information from??
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« Reply #5 on: September 10, 2003, 11:37:34 AM »
You'll never have to "touch" AOL software. It's simply a connection.

It's not likely to be the only option either. It's an ISP giving them the code to connect to their proprietary service. Sony signed up with AOL too, but you can use any ISP you want.
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« Reply #6 on: September 10, 2003, 11:51:29 AM »
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...the two companies are discussing means of promoting AOL's new broadband service, including the possibility of bundling AOL demo discs with the GameCube.


Yay, more AOL discs to burn. I can see how Nintendo would like to have it's products advertised through AOL, but I don't see how anyone could ever think that AOL comes anywhere near Nintendo's stringent quality expectations. It just doesn't make any sense.
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« Reply #7 on: September 10, 2003, 01:19:04 PM »
What im assuming is gonna happen is nintendo will use Aol's network and servers for its games. Gamespy shul still be an option for third parties and of course theres seganet and EA's isp.
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« Reply #8 on: September 10, 2003, 02:15:12 PM »
Here's how I think this will all play out.  Gamespy will be around still developing the middleware for LAN connectivity, since that's their forte (sp?).  Ninty will only be using AOL's network of ISP servers.  Heck, Gamespy's software could still be implemented for easier setup of games on AOL's systems too.
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« Reply #9 on: September 10, 2003, 03:19:35 PM »
This is simply just to get Nintendo stuff on AOL advertisements.... I dont see how this will help Gamecube go online... it didnt help that new Cel Shaded FPS...
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« Reply #10 on: September 10, 2003, 03:59:32 PM »
Read BigJim's post, as he's posted the most logical explanation for this situation. Nintendo are making sure online gaming will work for AOL users, not forcing you to use AOL.
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« Reply #11 on: September 10, 2003, 05:18:06 PM »
Tael: But that's just it- it's AOL's connection, or more specifcally lack thereof, that people don't want.  
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« Reply #12 on: September 10, 2003, 05:19:43 PM »
Tael: But that's just it. It's AOL's connection, or more specifcally lack thereof, that people we don't want.
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« Reply #13 on: September 10, 2003, 05:47:03 PM »
Ninty is choosing Aol for their network because everyone uses it. Aol sucks you know but with Ninty being in charge im sure it wont. You use aim mouse clicker lol. Havign such a widespread network is advantageous.
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« Reply #14 on: September 10, 2003, 06:04:37 PM »
I use aim because all my friends do. If my 60 other buddies on my list used MSN, so would I.
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« Reply #15 on: September 10, 2003, 07:54:11 PM »
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I use aim because all my friends do. If my 60 other buddies on my list used MSN, so would I.


Isnt that the freaking point?  Everyone does use it.

  And like numerous people here have already said, you don't have to use AOL.  And let me tell you, MSN leaves a lot to be desired as well.
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« Reply #16 on: September 10, 2003, 08:37:41 PM »
Nintendo is getting some unnessecary abuse over this. Heres what I said at another forum:

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Stupid. Stupid. Stupid. Stupid.

And I'm not talking about Nintendo. I'm talking about you guys.

Sony did the exact same thing with AOL for their online plan, and got none of this name calling and accusations. Nintendo can't even wipe it's own a$$ without people looking at them crosseyed.

You don't need an AOL connection. AOL is just providing the servers. The only way this could possibly be a bad thing is if Nintendo is stuck on AOL's congested main servers, which is pretty unlikely.

You're all jumping to conclusions. All because its AOL doesn't mean we have to sign up an account name, it doesn't mean we need to have 'net connection from AOL. It doesn't mean there are going to be weirdly shaped AOL logos spinning around online games. It just means Nintendo picked a company capable in a realm of servers and electronics to make its own custom network, and perhaps manage it to a certain extent.

Honestly...


 
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« Reply #17 on: September 10, 2003, 08:56:02 PM »
its quite a smart move really, everyone knows AOL and most have atleast some connection to it, either AIM, the ISP etc and to see nintendo every time you use something AOL related can only be good, gotta get that name recognition dont you

it would be like advertising on the side of coke cans, you dont need to drink coke to play nintendo, but every time you get a coke you see whoa nintendo! nice graphics! nintense! and so forth


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« Reply #18 on: September 10, 2003, 09:13:43 PM »
The Omen, Matrix, and PIAC certainly are right.
By Nintendo using aol, they are getting advertisement on the most widespread and used internet service provider.  They are also getting the aol network to assist them in creating their online framework.  This is one of Nintendo's smartest moves in a long time.  Add in this new Zelda disc deal, which is excellent if it's not the move to boost sales instead of a price drop, and the new president is really thinking in new ways for his and "our" company.
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« Reply #19 on: September 11, 2003, 03:33:11 AM »
Grrrrr, Omen, you're not getting MY ponit. We may not be using AOL itself, no, but we'd be using their internet connection, which I'm fairly certain is nonexistant. I don't want AOL being repsonsible for my connection to internet based games- they can hardly handle being an ISP, much less this.
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« Reply #20 on: September 11, 2003, 04:50:33 AM »
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Stupid. Stupid. Stupid. Stupid.

And I'm not talking about Nintendo. I'm talking about you guys.

Sony did the exact same thing with AOL for their online plan, and got none of this name calling and accusations. Nintendo can't even wipe it's own a$$ without people looking at them crosseyed.

You don't need an AOL connection. AOL is just providing the servers. The only way this could possibly be a bad thing is if Nintendo is stuck on AOL's congested main servers, which is pretty unlikely.

You're all jumping to conclusions. All because its AOL doesn't mean we have to sign up an account name, it doesn't mean we need to have 'net connection from AOL. It doesn't mean there are going to be weirdly shaped AOL logos spinning around online games. It just means Nintendo picked a company capable in a realm of servers and electronics to make its own custom network, and perhaps manage it to a certain extent.

Honestly...

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I think Matrix explained it well.


 
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« Reply #21 on: September 11, 2003, 04:58:15 AM »
Now I feel happy that I spent 2 hours getting a cable line from my comp downstairs up into my room.  I had to drill through the ceiling and through my closet to get the line up. O_o
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« Reply #22 on: September 11, 2003, 05:12:53 AM »
You still don't have to use an AOL connection if you don't want to.

The partnership means that the over 30 million AOL users don't get the shaft if/when Nintendo goes online. If this wasn't done, those users with GameCubes would have to get another ISP to connect. Being the largest ISP by far, this is clearly the right thing to do, regardless of personal opinion about the service.

AFAIC, companies like WorldCom that own the connection lines are more to blame for disconnect problems than the ISPs. AOL's the biggest target so it's obvious we'll hear more horror stories about them.

But I'll still be sticking with my reliable broadband connection.
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« Reply #23 on: September 11, 2003, 07:26:26 AM »
Well I'm feeling a little more relieved then I was when I wrote my "AHHH AOL!" response.  I guess my main problem with the situation is that AOL doesn't exactly have a reputation for being a very competent company and the idea of online games relying on their network sounds risky.  I want online Gamecube games to run smoothly and I don't really picture that with AOL.

However I'm wondering if all Nintendo is really using this deal for is advertising.  They still haven't announced any of their own online games and have stated that they have not changed their stance on online gaming so it's like they will realistically ever use this setup.  The design is more for third parties but I think it's WAY too late to get third parties interested in making online Gamecube games.  Why take the risk in making an online Gamecube title when Nintendo themselves is always telling you how unprofitable it is?  Therefore I don't think this AOL stuff will ever actually be used but it at least gives Nintendo a big advertising boost.  As a realistic online solution it seems to be little more then throwing gamers and third parties a bone so that technically no one can say Nintendo has no online plans.
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« Reply #24 on: September 11, 2003, 09:23:05 AM »
Yeah, I'd say it's simply sowing the seeds for the future. At this point, the Cube having a network of some sort being put in place, while it nears its midlife, and no online games in sight, it looks like they're building up for something later, or at least keeping their options open. It's sort of a non-event.

Another useless tidbit... After asking someone at AOL, he said that this is an agreement "in principal" that was made sometime around E3, and the details were ironed out since then. Doesn't sound very serious.

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