Author Topic: Nintendo to go the way of Sega + Nintendo is for kids (Read 20303 times)

Robageejammin · « **Reply #75 on:** September 25, 2003, 09:10:00 PM »

i hate people...

Top Ramen · « **Reply #76 on:** September 25, 2003, 11:05:23 PM »

Gamers these days are always hating on other systems but I play whatever is good fun. I happen to love Xbox Live and probably 50% of my gaming involves it, not to mention most of my Xbox games these days. Ghost Recon: IT, is simply a blast. I'd pretty much given up on the complications of PC gaming online, so Live is the perfect answer for me. PS2's online gaming is ok (I really like Tribes: AA and wish Xbox also had it), but it tends to lag much more and their lack of any organization to tie it all together is a letdown...and cheaters in games like SOCOM reminds me why I don't PC game anymore.

Make no mistake, the next Nintendo console will most assuredly have built-in ethernet for LAN and online capabilities, and the recent strategic moves demonstrate that (AOL deal). People shouldn't be so quick to put down online gaming when in 2 short years, Nintendo will also be online. The next frontier of gaming is shaping up to be multiplayer -- as in online and wireless, and when I say next frontier, I mean as significant as 3D gaming turned out to be. Profitability? It's all about finding a market model that works. Sony has 750k+ subs and Live has 500k+ subs according to the latest numbers out there. 1.25 million online gaming fans this early in the online console gaming's infancy is nothing to sneeze at. All three hardware makers need to invest in building a base now, to prepare for the future.

In a couple years, we'll be playing the next FZERO and Mario Kart online. I know everyone here would love that.

Top Ramen

Uglydot · « **Reply #77 on:** September 26, 2003, 01:04:17 AM »

Why in the world are we arguing about this. Obviously Xbox live isn't a product most or all of you want and other than mouse_clicker and a few others, you are just being stupid listening to nothing, so shut up yourselves.

KDR_11k · « **Reply #78 on:** September 26, 2003, 06:24:23 AM »

1.25 million out of (assumed) 70 millions*? That's maybe 2%.

*) Sony reported 60M shipped PS2s lately.

Yogurisimo 2 · « **Reply #79 on:** September 27, 2003, 04:57:30 PM »

Be Calm it Was a Woman Who Wrote That, What Could Women Know About Videogames?

honda_insightful · « **Reply #80 on:** October 02, 2003, 01:57:58 AM »

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The GameCube library will expand to 320 games by year-end, the biggest support for any Nintendo console ever," said George Harrison, the company's senior v.p. for marketing.

SOUNDS FABRICATED. I am pretty sure the Gameboy has a lot more that 320 games in it's library, just for the old black and white Gameboy.

The Gameboy is a PORTABLE or HANDHELD, not a console.

honda_insightful · « **Reply #81 on:** October 02, 2003, 02:14:00 AM »

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That's just like the lie that says are 50 million Ghey-Station 2's worldwide. Also quite laughable. (Maybe 50 million shipped, but certainly not sold through.).

Yes, SHIPPED. Sony claims 60 million PS2 were SHIPPED to stores, not sold.

Also, why do you find that number so hard to believe? The PS1 sold 110 million consoles worldwide... doesn't it make sense for its sequel, the PS2, to do just as well?

mouse_clicker · « **Reply #82 on:** October 02, 2003, 03:32:07 AM »

Honda: That was over 7 years, the PS2's been out for less than half that time. On top of that, it has two major contenders this generation rather than just one. I seriously doubt the PS2 will end up selling better than the Playstation.

PIAC · « **Reply #83 on:** October 02, 2003, 10:11:47 AM »

also quoting agentseven is a bit silly, hes been banned

you have to factor into the equasion that gaming has become more popular since the n64/psx generation, hence ps2 could very well outsell psx.

Yuji Miyamoto · « **Reply #84 on:** October 02, 2003, 09:25:29 PM »

110 million Playstations?! I'm sorry to say this but,

ha! ha! ha! ha! ha! ha! ha! ha! ha! ha! ha! ha! ha! ha! ha!

does anyone really belive that hype? this number comes from a company well know for lying about it's sales numbers.

the agent was the only one who knew what he was talking about
i enjoy his post more than i do whats written on the main page

too bad

Mario · « **Reply #85 on:** October 02, 2003, 09:40:55 PM »

Whats so funny... i dont get it.

mouse_clicker · « **Reply #86 on:** October 03, 2003, 11:37:44 AM »

Sony's not stupid enough to lie by several million units- they could easily be broguh up on charges for that. It's not so cut and dry "the number's high so Sony must have lied". 110 million sounds about right to me- I know the PSX sold between 70-80 million units in the US alone, so it shouldn't be hard to believe another 30-40 million units could be split among Japan, Europe, and Australia. Just because the number is higher than Nintendo's doesn't mean Sony lied.

PIAC · « **Reply #87 on:** October 03, 2003, 02:58:40 PM »

now now mouse_clicker, dont try and argue using facts, agentseven was the only who knew what he was talking about, we are just sitting here sticking berries up our noses, best we just continue with that.

KnowsNothing · « **Reply #88 on:** October 03, 2003, 03:08:59 PM »

*continues shoving berries up his nose*

Huh? Wha- HEY! How'd you know?

Using facts in arguments is notorious for causing logical and important debates. Something which we don't want, obviously. Being correct isn't the most important thing, as long as we get people confused while trying. Now we should all sit down and listen to Agent7, becuase apparently he has something good to say. Oh wait, I guess he was banned for saying TOO many good things. He must've just made soooooo much sense, he over loaded the mods with logic, causing them to immediatley ban him becuase their brains were about to leak out their ears and onto someone's shoe.

Note: I haven't read this entire thread and have no clue what Agent7 made sense about. But due to prior knowledge and psychic abilities, I am almost 100% sure that he was wrong.

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Darc Requiem · « **Reply #89 on:** October 03, 2003, 10:19:38 PM »

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Sony's not stupid enough to lie by several million units- they could easily be broguh up on charges for that. It's not so cut and dry "the number's high so Sony must have lied". 110 million sounds about right to me- I know the PSX sold between 70-80 million units in the US alone, so it shouldn't be hard to believe another 30-40 million units could be split among Japan, Europe, and Australia. Just because the number is higher than Nintendo's doesn't mean Sony lied.

Yes it is like Sony. Sony is known for making their sales numbers artificially high. Unlike Nintendo and even MS. Sony has no buy back program. Once a PS or PS2 unit is sent to the store they consider it sold. If the store can't sell it....then tough...they are stuck with it. Thats not the case with MS on Nintendo. Sony counts refurbished and repaired units as new sales. If my PS2 breaks and I sent it to Sony for repair and they send it back. They consider it a sale. Thats in addition to all the PS1 and PS2 owners that have had to buy second and third units due to poor product quality. My brothers best friend is already on his 2nd PS2 and I don't have the space to name the number of people that have had to by multiple PS1's. if Son'y says they sold 110 million PS1's it more like 70 to 80 million once you take out all the artificial sales. The PS2 has supposedly sold 60 million units. Its probably more like 40 million. I don't understand them when you are that far ahead do you really need to ly. Ah well...thats Sony for you.

Darc Requiem

PIAC · « **Reply #90 on:** October 03, 2003, 10:22:48 PM »

actually i dont think nintendo buys back its cubes either, i could be wrong how ever.

honda_insightful · « **Reply #91 on:** October 05, 2003, 02:28:30 AM »

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Originally posted by: Yuji Miyamoto
110 million Playstations?!

YES. WORLDWIDE STATS:
Atari 2600 = 40 million
Original Nintendo = 60 million
Super Nintendo = 70 million
Nintendo64=30 million ; Playstation = 100 million (1996-2000)

If the Atari, NES, and Super NES can sell 40, 60, and 70 million respectively, then it's entirely reasonable to believe PS1 sold ~100 million. The videogame industry continues to grow larger and larger.

It's also entirely reasonable to believe that PS2 will equal or better its ancestor.

KDR_11k · « **Reply #92 on:** October 05, 2003, 07:42:40 AM »

I doubt the PS2 will top the PS1. The competition is stronger this round.

mouse_clicker · « **Reply #93 on:** October 05, 2003, 07:55:10 AM »

You mean predecessor, honda, and no, it's not entirely reasonable. Whereas before all Sony had to compete with was the N64, NOW it has to compete with the Gamecube and the Xbox, both of which are selling better than the N64, I believe. That's more than twice as much opposition- Sony would really have to move a LOT of PS2's to match what the Playstation sold, and with PS2 sales slowing down and the PS3 looming on the horizon, I don't think Sony's going to sell 40 million more units worldwide. I'll admit, it could happen, but all signs point to no on this one.

Darc: But not by MILLIONS of units. Like I said, Sony could face a major lawsuit were they to distort the facts that much. Believe me, I know Sony and Microsoft have fudged the facts many times, but not by millions.

honda_insightful · « **Reply #94 on:** October 09, 2003, 03:59:55 AM »

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You mean predecessor...

Predecessor... ancestor... same difference.

Anyway, round-and-round we go. The point is that the PS1 sold ~100-110 million consoles, and that it's an entirely believable stat. Anyone who thinks otherwise is an idiot. (Also, if Sony lied about it, then Sony would be in serious trouble with the government.)

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Author Topic: Nintendo to go the way of Sega + Nintendo is for kids (Read 20303 times)