Topic: Eidos drops all Gamecube support

[Mario]

Eidos are no longer making games for Nintendo

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/printFriendly/0,,1-5-804554,00.html

Hey Eidos? Screw you.  

[Plugabugz]

I believe Eidos need to look at Namco, Sega, EA and Factor 5.

[Michael8983]

You can't blame them.
It's already been established that only good third-party titles sell on the Gamecube and, like most third-parties, Eidos just doesn't make those.  

I think Eidos is wrong in saying the Gamecube is a declining business though.
During the second quarter of the year things were bad but in July Gamecube sales almost matched XBox sales and with FZero and Soul Calibur 2 - both of which are supposably selling VERY strongly - they may have actually surpassed XBox sales in August but we won't know until the numbers are released. Things are looking good this Fall too with Nintendo's strongest and most varied line-up ever and probably a price-drop to help hardware sales too. I think, by the end of the year, all the nay-sayers will be eating their words.

[BlkPaladin]

The only game that Eidos did bring to the Cube was a badly ported Blood Omen 2.

[egman]

They also published Timesplitters 2, but now that's out of their hands. GameCube was not a significant part of their business this gen anyway, which is why I kind of pissed off that they made an annoucement like this. This is giving the finger to Nintendo when they clearly have no blame in Eidos woes.

But this will only work against Eidos in the end if Nintendo becomes an attractive platform again. They are essentially burning the bridge and I don't think Iwata will give a damn about rebuilding it when companies like Capcom and Namco are giving better and more significant support.

[joshnickerson]

Oh no! Now we'll never get a chance to play any of the award winning Tomb Raider games! Or Backyard Wrestling! Oh no!!!!

Fuh. Methinks they are just trying to find someone to blame for the uber-disaster that was Tomb Raider: Angel of Darkness. I do agree with egman's comment; at what point DID Eidos develop any Gamecube titles?

This affects me just about as much as Acclaim scaling back GC support: Who cares? I've never bought an Eidos game before anyway.
Perhaps Eidos and Acclaim should team up to make "Turok Raider: Dinosaur of Darkness" and claim the title of the crappiest game ever made.  

[PIAC]

hey i own Turok Evolution i saw it at EB for $20 aussie dollarydoo's and even then its still a bit expensive

but i digress, yay another 3rd party 'ditches' support, its bad in some respects i guess, but then geez i doubt anyone here will miss them, especailly now they dont handle the Time Splitters series as somene else said.

owwww but mummy i was really hoping for an Angel of Darkness port too

[nolimit19]

EAT SHlT EIDOS!

[Mushroom Kingdom]

TimeSplitters 2 was good but thats the only good Eidos Gamecube game

[Mushroom Kingdom]

TimeSplitters 2 was good but thats the only good Eidos Gamecube game

[Grey Ninja]

I fully support Eidos' decision.  In order to make a game sell well on GameCube, it must be a good game.  Eidos just isn't capable of doing that.

[Bill Aurion]

Here's a quote that was in my sig not too long ago.  I say it fits this situation quite well...

"First Acclaim says they won't make games for the cube and now this. If this sort of thing continues you may not be able to purchase any ****ty games for the cube. This is a portent of dark times ahead. Yes…dark times indeed."  Gabe, Penny-Arcade, on Mace Griffin's GC cancellation

[Ian Sane]

Well I never bought any Eidos games anyway... oh wait that's exactly the point.

Gotta love that Gabe comment.  The slogan for Cube gamers should be "we don't take no sh!t from nobody!"  

[Sirmorphix]

I wish I could care.

The fact that they referred to Nintendo as declining business from a company that had to sell itself off to survive is pretty hypocritical.  That and a game company which just finally became profitable again this year, also really has no grounds to try and slam another company that is one of the most profitable in the world.

Bye bye Eidos, it's not like I bought your crappy games any way.

[nitsu niflheim]

And we all know what is happening to Acclaim, I hope Eidos get some of that action too.  

Acclaim ditches almost all support for Nintendo and winds up with stock selling for less than dollar, (One of the requirements to stay listed,) they have been give a chance to try and get the price above a dollar and it must stay above a dollar for a set number of consecutive days or they get delisted.  Sure it wasn't just because of dropping almost all suport for Nintendo, but I think it was part of it.

So the rule is:  DON'T MESS WITH NINTENDO!

I have Blood Omen 2 on Xbox, possibly the worst game ever made, a complete and utter pile of donkey poo.

[Cap]

eidos also did hitman2, which i thought was an excellent game. i was looking forward to hitman3.

[bonestormer]

GC is doing okay for now (in terms of game selection), but if this trend keeps up, where another 3rd party publisher drops GC every other month, where will GC be in the next 2-3 years before "N5" comes out?

However much I really like some of my GC games, I'd be pissed if I couldn't play the next Burnout, Hitman, ASB, Soul Reaver, ect. The big Nintendo blockbuster that comes out every 4 months just isnt enough to keep me happy. I couldn't stand it of all I owned was a GC.



And Edios didn't say Nintendo was a declining business, they said GAMECUBE was. And I find it hard to disagree. With a smaller and smaller selection (compared to others), no GTA, no online, ect, ect. Besides the diehard Nintendo/Mario/Zelda fan (who I bet already has a GC), who would go out today and get a GC over PS2 or Xbox? Not many. How well would of SC2 done on GC without link? Not well and that's sad.

[Perfect Cell]

GC is doing okay for now (in terms of game selection), but if this trend keeps up, where another 3rd party publisher drops GC every other month, where will GC be in the next 2-3 years before "N5" comes out?



Exactly! . I dont understand this Elitist attitude... "Oh good less crap on the gamecube" Im sorry but this news is never good, no matter how you spin it. Third Parties are dropping GCN games every month... things wont suddenly change magically with the N5..... Nintendo needs to stop this now not hope that the Next System is the awneser to its problems. Why would Third parties make games for N5?at all?  Tough times no matter how you spin it

[Michael8983]

"GC is doing okay for now (in terms of game selection), but if this trend keeps up, where another 3rd party publisher drops GC every other month, where will GC be in the next 2-3 years before "N5" comes out?"

But just as some really mediocre third-parties are dropping Gamecube support there are some really talented third-parties like Namco and Sega that seem to be giving it stronger support than ever and are actually having success in doing so. So I think, all things considered, Nintendo's third-party situation is improving. Losing support from mediocre developers that weren't really even supporting the Gamecube to begin with is no big deal but building alliances with the most powerful and prominent Japanese third-parties is a VERY big deal that could do wonders for Nintendo's next console.

[the_zombie_luke]

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Originally posted by: Cap
eidos also did hitman2, which i thought was an excellent game. i was looking forward to hitman3.

Actually IO Interactive developed it. Eidos only published it. Now IO is making Freedom Fighters for EA. I hope IO stays away from Eidos. I also hope Free Radical develops for someone else as well.

[Cap]

i thought about that after i posted actually, but if i remember correctly i think eidos has already announced they will be publishing hitman 3.

as for free radical, gamerfeed.com is reporting that eidos will not be publishing time splitters 3, so gc still has a chance of getting that game.

[AgentSeven]

I have to say a few things here to set the record straight.  Just like Acclaim, Eidios, another talentless waste of a company drops supports for GC and then has the nerver to blame Nintendo for doing so.

Yet, Eidios just released one of the WORST most bug filled peices of crap ever to plague video games.  I'm, of course, talking about the ultra crappy "tomb raider: AOD."  After seeing how bad it really was, I could not believe that any company could get away with releasing such a poor title.  This game has to be the biggest rip off the public has seen since the Ps2.  It's poorly desinged and as I said before, FILLED with glitches!   Not to mention the fact, that Tomb Raider, the flagship in Eidios' publishing library, has been steadily declining in sales since the SECOND game.  

Now 4 crappy TR games later, Eidios has the gall to blame their own failure and incompitence on Nintendo.  What a load of BULL!

Time Splitters 2 and Hitman 2 were both garbage.  Also, did anyone know that about one year ago Eidios tried to sell itself to any interested party, yet no one accepted their offer?!  Play the new TR game and you will know why.  This is the truth.

What really burns me is that this article shows more of IGN's extremely Anti-Nintendo policy.
They HATE Nintendo and it shows.  Even idiot, Matt Casssima, the douche bag that runs Cube.IGN resents the company and system he is suppossed to report on.

Does anyone even bother to mention that the X-Box has lost over 1.35 BILLION since it's launch?  No, because M$ wont let them.  In this industry, it's all about profit, and M$ has seen NONE on it's X-Box brand.  It's the sort of major story you'd expect to see on the top page of website or a magazine, but you don't.  Well, know you know why.

Also, no one ever mentions the SERIOUS production problems with $ony's PSP portable.  I'm expecting the classic , PS1+PS2 "disc read error" complaints to start pouring in VERY soon after the systems launch.  Also another major story you won't see in print.

So in conclusion, there are bigger stories out there than Eidios pulling it's support for GC.   Yet the competitions hype machine is using it's marketing muscle to try and use this against Nintendo.  Let me tell you this, Eidios leaving Big N' is a GOOD thing.  

P.S.  I won't even mention the fact that Nintendo fans tend to be well informed and they have good tast in games.  That's something that just doesn't work out for companies who are used to working in the $ony philosophy of "Marketing over Substance."

I only speak the truth.
 

[ThePerm]

wow a devloper who made very few games for gamecube is dropping support because they lost alot of money on their ps2 exclusive crappy tomb raider game. I have never been a fan of Eidos. They were one of the first companies to give Ninendo the shaft even back in the n64 days. I don't care if this sounds like bad news for gamecube. Will third party support magically appear for the succesor of gamecube 2. Prolly not. Which is retarted and this is why companies don't make money on Nintendo systems other then a few high quality third parties. he high quality third parties always support a system from the beginning...they dont wait to jump in. They dont make alot of half assed ports for the system(which actually hurts Nintendo's systems reputation more), and they don't blame other companies for their problems. Heres how the good companies think "if i make a strong relationship with this company then we will moth mutually benifit, it shall be a symbiotic relation ship"

Eidos is not a a Symbiot...its a parasite. It try's to take advantage of a company which could maker it do good business in the process it causes problems for that company. IE the bad press its doing now. I dont see why every company has to ANNOUNCE thier lack of support. If you want to quit supporting it do it quietly.  


oh and agentseven i dont think Timesplitters 2 is a bad game. I won't blame the developer Free Radicals(ex Rare Employees(goldeneye/Perfect Dark)) for the publishers(Eidos) shtuff. Most Eidos games are made by Core which ill agree makes shitty games.

but Agent Seven is pretty much said it well. Also the ign thing. Matt is just highly critical...its tough love.

[Ian Sane]

"I dont see why every company has to ANNOUNCE thier lack of support. If you want to quit supporting it do it quietly."

Yeah it's not like Nintendo announced that they won't be supporting the PS2 and Xbox.

The Gamecube userbase rewards quality developers and punishes crappy ones.  In a way it's like a small gamers' rebellion against some of the negative changes the industry has had in the last few years.  Nintendo doesn't have to make a system where crappy games sell.  They just have to make sure that crappy games are the ONLY games that don't sell.  If they can get it so that N5 sales follow that trend then little by little the quality developers will move to Nintendo as they no longer have to compete with the crappy ones.  That can only be a good thing for both gamers and Nintendo themselves.

[darknight06]

*remembers the SNES/Genesis days where both companies made top quality games and 3rd Party developers couldn't pull this crap nearly as well.*